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In the eyes of Indonesians, North Korea's Kim Jong Un is a great leader on par with Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela, which is why they have awarded him a prize for "global statesmanship" - Kim's first ever accolade from outside the hermit communist state. The North Korean dictator is to receive the award from the Bali-based Sukarno Centre. The award was announced by Rachmawati Soekarnoputri, the daughter of Indonesia's first president, after whom the award is named.

Kim Jong Un receives "global statesmanship award" from Indonesia's Sukarno Center"

We will give the award to President Kim Jong-un because he has been consistent in carrying out the ideals of the great leader, Kim Il Sung, which is to fight imperialism. So this will be a sequel, where we give the award to Kim Jong-un for his persistence in fighting neo-colonialism," said Rachmawati Soekarnoputri. Other previous recipients of the award have included South Africa's Nelson Mandela, India's Mahatma Gandhi and Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi.The award has been ridiculed by Indonesian media such as Jakarta Globe, who reported, "The Sukarno Prize traditionally handed out in recognition of contributions to world peace and development. It is unclear how Kim Jong Un, whose saber-rattling and bellicose policies have exacerbated already strained and frosty ties with South Korea, Japan and the United States, has contributed in any way to world peace or compares even remotely with other democracy icons."



Sukarno Center declares Kim Jong Un a "great leader"

Last month, it was reported that the North Korean dictator had ordered the execution of a man who runs a turtle farm. The man had apparently been criticised by Mr Kim for not looking after the turtles well enough. The farmer had retorted that this was due to issues with electricity, water and equipment- complaints which the politician dismissed as nonsensical. The Daily NK reported that the man was shot shortly after the incident.In June, North Korea was ridiculed across the world when it announced it had invented a wonder drug capable of curing AIDS, Ebola and cancer. The dictatorship is known for making outlandish claims about its own prowess. The state itself also claims that former leader Kim Jong-il invented the hamburger and had magical powers such as that he did not excrete and had no need to use the toilet. A recent UN report revealed that around 10.2 million North Koreans are currently facing famine as the dictatorship experiences its "worst drought for over a hundred years."


It is Kim's first award outside North Korea

South Korean medias question the rationality of Sukarno Center, but said it comes of no surprise because "President Sukarno and the elder Kim were partners in the nonaligned movement of the Cold War". Rachmawati, the Sukarno's daughter, said, "Kim Jong-un has similar thoughts to Sukarno. They have similar visions and missions. The world had treated him unfairly, pigeonholing him as merely a brutal dictator. It's Western propaganda. It's the same old story told with certain ulterior motives. My father had also been deemed a dictator by many in the Western world."President Sukarno fought the Dutch for independence and became Indonesia's first president. He later embarked on a series of aggressive foreign policies under the rubric of anti-imperialism, with aid from the Soviet Union and China. His policy triggered the Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation (Konfrontasi). Domestically, Sukarno fomented anti-British sentiment and the British Embassy was burned down. By 1964 Sukarno commenced an anti-American campaign, where American interests and businesses in Indonesia were denounced by government officials and attacked by mobs. As a result, US aid to Indonesia was halted.


President Sukarno triggered Konfrontasi with Malaysia, bombed Singapore, burnt British embassy and attacked American businesses

Under Sukarno, Indonesian soldiers, civilians, and guerillas were sent into Sabah, Sarawak and the Malay Peninsula. These forces fought with British and Commonwealth soldiers deployed to protect the nascent state of Malaysia. Indonesian agents also exploded several bombs in Singapore. In 1967, Major General Suharto toppled Sukarno to be the next Indonesian president, and ties with US, Britain, Malaysia and Singapore soon improved. Sukarno was put under house arrest until his death. Another daughter, Megawati Sukarnoputri, became the 5th Indonesia president in 2001.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...a-10432451.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/indo...ticle-1.2312233
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/20...esmanship-.html
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Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
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Maybe a move to strengthen political relationships in the East.
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"It's Kim's first award outside North Korea"

Actually, I think some Malaysian university gave him an honorary economics PhD a few years ago.
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(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
Kim Jong un gets fat while his government has failed to provide many of its citizens with basic necessities...

It's one thing to be a dictator, quite another to be leader of a nation like North Korea which has one of the worst human rights records in the world.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC...nHRinDPRK.aspx

Compiled by the UN... were all those witnesses were lying?

As someone with an interest in the Asia Pacific, I did read the full report when it was released.
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Indonesia is a backwards ****hole anyway. I don't think anyone outside of it really cares what they are doing.
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(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
Try saying that to the millions of farmers starving while their leader gorges himself to death.
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Kim Jong Un is like one of those little dogs who is all bark and no bite. I remember a few years back, when my friend and I realized how much of a "threat" he was...:facepalm: he threatened the USA, as he has a number of times, so we heard about it on the news. This was a few years ago, so we, naively believed that he could do something to the US. So we created an "army," just in case he invaded us. (Yup, I'm American.) This was also back when Iran was being a butt and threatening the US/Israel, and we freaked out (go ahead, laugh, we were naive.) So I had (and still have) and army, just in case anyone invades us.
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(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
You must have not read a single book about North Korea or come from a country ruled by a totalitarian government yourself or in a position of extreme power.
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(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
There are a few TED talks about why the dictatorship in N.Korea is bad.
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Congrats Supreme Leader!
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(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
Kim Jong Un certainly does not have the "best interests for his people in mind".

His government has one of the worst human rights records in the world. They have concentration camps which include forced labour and torture. Some of them have no hope of ever being released (total control zones I think they're called) and they even sometimes punish several generations of a family. And all this for such "crimes" as exercising basic rights to free speech and criticising the government, or trying to escape from the country, things like that.

Kim Jong Un is an evil ******* just like his 2 predecessors were.
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I can recall reading an article about the plight of North Korea's farmers. It was so pathetic, they were apparently "driven" to resort to cannibalism.

Dictator may not be a bad thing, but the dictator in NK is certainly bad.

(Original post by ✘avier)
Why is being a dictator such a bad thing? It's just a word thrown about to defame a leader who often has the best interests for his people.


They use Democracy as a trick to put in puppet governments into power. They typically use NGO's to target young people into overthrowing their government they even used Rap music in Cuba.

Young minds are the most easily deceived.
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He's earned it.
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And there's me thinking Indonesia was a beaken of light as Muslims go.. looking at Mandella and Un as examples though would suggest they are batty.
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That's so very disturbingly screwed up. Kim Jong Un is an unbelievable cruel despot whose dictatorship regime is based on lies and threat of extreme violence to ensure obedience and adulation from his suffering subjects. Those stupid, ignorant people that gave him an award. How exceedingly dumb can they be to praise such a man?
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Indonesia was rather close to North Korea during the reign of Sukarno. In fact, Kim Il Sung was created a special plant called the Kimilsungia, which was presented to him by Sukarno. During the Sukarno era, Indonesia had the largest community party in the world, outside the communist countries, and Indonesia was a potential future communist country. It is for that reason that America and the west supported Suharto (who succeeded Sukarno) and kept silent when under his reign, nearly a million communists were killed.

It is not surprising that an organisation named after a former president who presided over a country with a large communist population, and had a close relationship with North Korea, should award a North Korean leader. In fact, they awarded Kim Il Sung in 2001, so this is not the first time they have shown their support for North Korea.


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And there's me thinking Indonesia was a beaken of light as Muslims go.. looking at Mandella and Un as examples though would suggest they are batty.
This is not an award from Indonesia or its government, but rather the Sukarno Foundation. The person who presented this award was Rachmawati Sukarnoputri, the daughter of the former president of Indonesia, Sukarno.
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Indonesia was rather close to North Korea during the reign of Sukarno. In fact, Kim Il Sung was created a special plant called the Kimilsungia, which was presented to him by Sukarno. During the Sukarno era, Indonesia had the largest community party in the world, outside the communist countries, and Indonesia was a potential future communist country. It is for that reason that America and the west supported Suharto (who succeeded Sukarno) and kept silent when under his reign, nearly a million communists were killed.

It is not surprising that an organisation named after a former president who presided over a country with a large communist population, and had a close relationship with North Korea, should award a North Korean leader. In fact, they awarded Kim Il Sung in 2001, so this is not the first time they have shown their support for North Korea.




This is not an award from Indonesia or its government, but rather the Sukarno Foundation. The person who presented this award was Rachmawati Sukarnoputri, the daughter of the former president of Indonesia, Sukarno.
Ah. Good to hear.

Unfortunate geography aside I do think Indonesia has a bright future.
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Does anyone else get the impression that whenever Un's laughing with other people in a photograph, those people are only laughing because they'll "disappear" if they don't laugh at a golfing joke that Un has already told 3 times that evening?
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