Former Islamic radical claims ‘talk of jihad’ common at Queen Mary Uni Friday prayer Watch

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Over the last five years physics student Sohail Ahmed claims to have witnessed fiery speeches about jihad during Friday prayer at Queen Mary University of London, clandestine talks at the homes of “brothers” from the Islamic Society, and one student disappearing to reputedly join Isis and fight in Syria.

The 23-year-old former Islamic radical has spoken out as fears have been voiced about a “culture conducive” to non-violent extremism on campus at Queen Mary - as it is named in a new list of “worst offenders” for hosting radical preachers.


It poses a very serious risk,
said Mr Ahmed.
I know a good few people who were not radical at all when they entered the university but they end up talking about some very radical views once they’ve listened to a few talks and got riled up and impassioned by fiery speeches.

There would be discussions about jihad, about fighting the kuffar and establishing the khilafah (Arabic for caliphate), talk about ‘the West is evil and is trying to destroy Islam with their evil secularism’, really fiery speeches during Friday prayers.
Mr Ahmed, born to Pakistani parents in east London, grew up in a household that believed in the extreme Wahhabi Salafi interpretation of Islam and he was radicalised at an early age.

Already with a deep hatred of the UK and a firm belief that he was living in “enemy territory”, he claims he considered carrying out an attack on home soil when he was 16 or 17-years-old by placing a bomb at a high profile location. He says he never went beyond “scoping out a few places”.

On arrival at Queen Mary in 2010 to study medicine he found little evidence of his extremism being mirrored at the Whitechapel campus.

I was the most radical guy there in probably the entire medical school,
he said.

But when he transferred to study physics at the university’s main campus in Mile End in 2012 he experienced a sea-change.

That’s where the proper radicalism was,
he says,
I wasn’t alone anymore. There were lots of people like myself who agreed with my mode of thinking.
This thinking included discussion about jihad, fighting the ‘kuffar’, and establishing a caliphate.

Mr Ahmed, who has since left Islam and come out as being gay, has grave concerns about the influence of Queen Mary’s Islamic Society, of which he was a member.

If I were in charge I would most definitely break up the Islamic Society,
he said.

Right now, everyone that runs the Islamic Society, they’re all Salafis, radicals, that’s not in question. I’d either completely get rid of the society or put people that are less radical in charge.
But he says the problem has grown from a wider failure to engage with and tackle the threat from radical Islamism.

When I was in school no one was radical,
he said.
People used to look down on me, I was ostracised. But over the years that I’ve been at university everyone was radicalised like me.

That didn’t happen in a vacuum. That happened slowly with the innovation of Saudi Wahhabi literature backed by the influx of Saudi preachers. All of that stuff hasn’t happened by itself.
Queen Mary Student Union and the university’s Islamic Society did not comment when contacted by the East London Advertiser.
http://www.elystandard.co.uk/news/fo...ayer_1_4182318
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All of these people need to be locked up. I don't know why the UK likes terrorists so much. :bebored:
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That's his application form to join Quilliam, bunch of neo-colonial puppets...
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I see the Ely Standard is really branching out in terms of content.

Suitably alarming stuff, though.
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What always gets me is how can you study physics and then hold such irrational beliefs?
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:rofl: Good old Sohail hahahahahaha

I remember him, quiet dude generally, I don't ever recall him going around being this so called "radical" when he was Muslim....nor do a lot of the guys over at Whitechapel after talking to them about him, he was always considered a nice guy and gentle...so I don't get why he's going around portraying himself as some sort of "radical".

Frankly speaking after his Muslim phase, he left Islam, went and joined the Athiest Society, believe he was treasurer and Athiest Society started focusing on events aimed towards Muslims and issues about Islam. So obvious I would without a doubt believe he is bias and has an agenda.

Plus the ISOC during the early days were far stricter and closed off.....its since 2011 they opened up, were more accepting of other valid opinions and since then its become a lot more popular. Events would be far more packed out in comparison to when I started.
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:rofl: Good old Sohail hahahahahaha

I remember him, quiet dude generally, I don't ever recall him going around being this so called "radical" when he was Muslim....nor do a lot of the guys over at Whitechapel after talking to them about him, he was always considered a nice guy and gentle...so I don't get why he's going around portraying himself as some sort of "radical".

Frankly speaking after his Muslim phase, he left Islam, went and joined the Athiest Society, believe he was treasurer and Athiest Society started focusing on events aimed towards Muslims and issues about Islam. So obvious I would without a doubt believe he is bias and has an agenda.

Plus the ISOC during the early days were far stricter and closed off.....its since 2011 they opened up, were more accepting of other valid opinions and since then its become a lot more popular. Events would be far more packed out in comparison to when I started.
Did our resident Ex-Muslim, Wahid Rahman, "radicalise" him?
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Omg im going queen mary this september

Maybe i should think twice about joining this so called isoc :hmmm:

Maybe i will become radicalised and will wage war on the kuffar :hmmm::eek:

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Omg im going queen mary this september

Maybe i should think twice about joining this so called isoc :hmmm:

Maybe i will become radicalised and will wage war on the kuffar :hmmm::eek:

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Go to their events, go to the Friday prayer and judge for yourself
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Go to their events, go to the Friday prayer and judge for yourself
Are you calling that dude in the article a liar?

Why would he do this to us?

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Are you calling that dude in the article a liar?

Why would he do this to us?

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You cannot rely on a single view, especially if there is some sort of bias.

Plus you are going to QM, so you'll have the opportunity first-hand to see whether what he is saying is true or not. Would it not be better for you to go see everything first-hand and decide for yourself?
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Well, judging by the huge amount of Jihadists here... they could easily be the people this article mentions
I completely agree.
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:rofl: Good old Sohail hahahahahaha

I remember him, quiet dude generally, I don't ever recall him going around being this so called "radical" when he was Muslim....nor do a lot of the guys over at Whitechapel after talking to them about him, he was always considered a nice guy and gentle...so I don't get why he's going around portraying himself as some sort of "radical".

Frankly speaking after his Muslim phase, he left Islam, went and joined the Athiest Society, believe he was treasurer and Athiest Society started focusing on events aimed towards Muslims and issues about Islam. So obvious I would without a doubt believe he is bias and has an agenda.

Plus the ISOC during the early days were far stricter and closed off.....its since 2011 they opened up, were more accepting of other valid opinions and since then its become a lot more popular. Events would be far more packed out in comparison to when I started.
Typical. Always coming up with excuses to cover up any kind of extremism that may exist. First it is "they aren't muslims" now it is "jews and atheists and propaganda", what next? Your pathetic mentality just shows how much you despise people who don't believe in the same things as you or maybe have a different opinion to you.

If he is lying, then go debate and provide evidence instead of accusing of bias and an agenda. You would do this if you could logically think for yourself.
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I completely agree. An example of a disgusting worm jihadist can be found here:



Typical. Always coming up with excuses to cover up any kind of extremism that may exist. First it is "they aren't muslims" now it is "jews and atheists and propaganda", what next? Your pathetic mentality just shows how much you despise people who don't believe in the same things as you or maybe have a different opinion to you.

If he is lying, then go debate and provide evidence instead of accusing of bias and an agenda. You would do this if you could logically think for yourself.
The guy in the article was just throwing around buzz words and didn't really deliver any specifics.

But I guess a person who actually interacted with Sohail probably knows a lot more about it than you or me, for that matter.


Like most things, radicalism/extremism/fundamentalism is all relative...
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The guy in the article was just throwing around buzz words and didn't really deliver any specifics.

But I guess a person who actually interacted with Sohail probably knows a lot more about it than you or me, for that matter.


Like most things, radicalism/extremism/fundamentalism is all relative...
Regardless, it should be taken seriously, as should any accusation of radicalising.

I'd rather see some proof and debating rather than just "lol, bias, agenda, atheist".
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Regardless, it should be taken seriously, as should any accusation of radicalising.

I'd rather see some proof and debating rather than just "lol, bias, agenda, atheist".
There'd be a great debate if the guy had actually mentioned any specifics but it's all probably just rhetoric and exaggeration...
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There'd be a great debate if the guy had actually mentioned any specifics but it's all probably just rhetoric and exaggeration...
Until we find out what you said is true, we should not assume it isn't.
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Until we find out what you said is true, we should not assume it isn't.
I didn't say anything...:confused:
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I didn't say anything...:confused:
The bit about it probably being rhetoric and exaggeration?
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The bit about it probably being rhetoric and exaggeration?
It looks that way. The article doesn't go into any great detail.

It must have been a slow news day or something..

Someone could probably recreate that entire story and make it seem like the far-right are infiltrating and/or brainwashing people or anyone. It smells too much like a pre-written template.
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It looks that way. The article doesn't go into any great detail.

It must have been a slow news day or something..

Someone could probably recreate that entire story and make it seem like the far-right are infiltrating and/or brainwashing people or anyone. It smells too much like a pre-written template.
Well you can think that, but many of us will take this seriously. Nice try sympathiser.
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