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hi I though I was fit but I was shocked when playing pre season.

I currently do weight training sun - tue - thur all pros
I do field hockey wed - fri currently

so I'm exercising 5 days a week at a high intensity but I just cant keep up with my field hockey I play for about 1.5 hours and the last 30-40 mins I'm pooped.

Is there any other cardio I should do during the week, few jogs bike etc?

or shall I stick with what I'm doing and just push harder in hockey and the fitness will come??

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All Pro is often agreed to be a bit ****. It's also aimed for looks not sports performance. Obviously your choice but so you know.

The fitness will come, it's a question of how long it takes. You could do some after lifting. You do then need to think about recovery, if you are loosing weight it'll be harder but if you are eating and sleeping well it should be fine. If your legs start to feel beat up and you want to priorities cardio then think about changing to a programme that doesn't do legs every session- sprint after legs, gain more rest days for them.
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All Pro is often agreed to be a bit ****. It's also aimed for looks not sports performance. Obviously your choice but so you know.

The fitness will come, it's a question of how long it takes. You could do some after lifting. You do then need to think about recovery, if you are loosing weight it'll be harder but if you are eating and sleeping well it should be fine. If your legs start to feel beat up and you want to priorities cardio then think about changing to a programme that doesn't do legs every session- sprint after legs, gain more rest days for them.
Why is all pros considered ****? Out of interest
I was doing stronglifts but my legs couldn't hack the constant increase of weight on squats etc.

What would be a better sports related weight routine?
I always try and do compound movements
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All Pros as in the program where you add a rep to your sets each week?
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Why is all pros considered ****? Out of interest
I was doing stronglifts but my legs couldn't hack the constant increase of weight on squats etc.

What would be a better sports related weight routine?
I always try and do compound movements
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Many, many reasons
old thread on it

I'd recommend SL over it, possible with tweaks or maybe you were actually ready to move on. Where did you get to with SL? like how long were you doing it, weight your were up to, were you stalling (not making the reps), in what sense could your legs not hack it,had you deloaded
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All Pros as in the program where you add a rep to your sets each week?
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Many, many reasons
old thread on it

I'd recommend SL over it, possible with tweaks or maybe you were actually ready to move on. Where did you get to with SL? like how long were you doing it, weight your were up to, were you stalling (not making the reps), in what sense could your legs not hack it,had you deloaded
the whole weight lifting things is confusing, its different on everybody.

I got to 65kg bench, squats 100kg, deads 120kg press 40kg rows 65kg

cant squat heavier I fail every time. I tried 3x5 still failed, I deloaded from 105 to 100 again and hit 5x5. tried again and then deloaded. I'm also stuck on press and bench also up down etc. I'm only 11.5 stone on a diet of 2700 calories ish. I'm 6ft. 28 years old.

I also in season play hockey on a Saturday and from squatting on the Friday it affects my performance on Saturdays
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It sounds like stamina is the issue, so why not add a HIIT session and maybe a run of an hour or so?

Although if you're playing hockey 3 times a week and pushing yourself than you're probably getting enough interval training as it is.

Also, do you ever take rest weeks?
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It sounds like stamina is the issue, so why not add a HIIT session and maybe a run of an hour or so?

Although if you're playing hockey 3 times a week and pushing yourself than you're probably getting enough interval training as it is.

Also, do you ever take rest weeks?
from hockey no I play all year round to a certain extent maybe a few weeks off for work commitments/holidays and keeping the partner happy.

weights yes every 8 weeks roughly
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the whole weight lifting things is confusing, its different on everybody.

I got to 65kg bench, squats 100kg, deads 120kg press 40kg rows 65kg

cant squat heavier I fail every time. I tried 3x5 still failed, I deloaded from 105 to 100 again and hit 5x5. tried again and then deloaded. I'm also stuck on press and bench also up down etc. I'm only 11.5 stone on a diet of 2700 calories ish. I'm 6ft. 28 years old.

I also in season play hockey on a Saturday and from squatting on the Friday it affects my performance on Saturdays
I'm was about the same size and gave up on SL around the same point. I regret it though, there's still some slogging it out in there but it gets tougher. Id deload by 10% and consider halving the increment after that. If it were just legs that were struggling I'd say drop squats to twice a week but it sounds more all round

After that or if you really don't want to push it then you'd be better moving to an intermediate programme. Probably one that doesn't do legs every session since you do a fair bit cardio.

531 and juggernaut are the ones that come to mind cause I've done them but there are others. The jaugernaut website has an article section with a filter for training for athletes- eg folk not getting strong for its own sake- that you may we'll find useful regardless of what you do
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[QUOTE=BKS;58279829]I'm was about the same size and gave up on SL around the same point. I regret it though, there's still some slogging it out in there but it gets tougher. Id deload by 10% and consider halving the increment after that. If it were just legs that were struggling I'd say drop squats to twice a week but it sounds more all round

After that or if you really don't want to push it then you'd be better moving to an intermediate programme. Probably one that doesn't do legs every session since you do a fair bit cardio.

531 and juggernaut are the ones that come to mind cause I've done them but there are others. The jaugernaut website has an article section with a filter for training for athletes- eg folk not getting strong for its own sake- that you may we'll find useful regardless of what you do[/QUOTE

cheers for the help il look it up
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