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(Original post by Schrödingers Cat)
No once again you're wrong.

Have a read of this

http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch23india.htm

The problem is that Islam is a monotheist religion and so hates all other religious groups, they started the violence Hindu's finished it because there were more of them
no no no no, no place id rather be, no no nooo, no place id rather be
right you are mr yoda, gl hating half the world, will serve you well in future
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I would, but i obviously wouldnt be as offended as I dont have any relation to them.

Ive been several times as child, granted its been a few years since ive been (due to uni), i still like to think i know what the people are like, I speak the language fluently and speak to people who have moved from there regularly.
Don't waste your time on people who lack grey matter bro.

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People wonder why I hate saying I'm half Pakistani - here's your answer.
Yeah, we shouldn't really hate where we are form... but the fact is that Pakistan has such a negative image with most of the world Sometimes, I find it better to say I'm form another country.
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No it's not really, obviously not everyone in Pakistan is terrible but the majority are. Most of them our hateful people and I think generilisations are acceptable
Maybe you have your reasons and I don't want to argue with you, but I seriously think you have a problem with generalisations about countries.
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Doesn't surprise me.

Terrible country with terrible people
Are you Pakistani?/have you lived in Pakistan?
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Any different to the paedo rings we have in the UK?

why is Pakistan even terrible?
Rotherham, Manchester, i'd wager Bradford would make them look tiny.

Because it's a quasi-terrorist state which barely governs itself and has an army that admits to ignoring some Taliban groups. Worst of all, it had Bin Laden.

If Pakistan did not have nukes, nobody would give a crap about it and the country would collapse or be invaded.
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typical
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Indians Have that their own mom and sisters
They are even worse
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Looking on the bright side, at least it's been busted.
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Imo (haven't looked at google definition) culture is the way the majority of people will live their lives and will base most their decisions on their culture. Upbringing has everything to do with culture and society is based mainly around culture

This thread will explain my grievance with Asian culture (read at your own caution, title is clickbait)

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3348933
Wow. You do know Asia has the largest population in the world in terms of Continents.

So out of that large population, there has to be many cultures and Religions.

I hate how you generalise your grievance with a certain culture/group and generalise it by adding the whole of Asia.

You need to understand how DIVERSE Asia is!

That thread of yours probably doesnt do a majority of Asians justice with the beliefs and ideas you seem to assume Asians have.

OK , now let's look at religion,

Asia is home to large populations of followers of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism to name a few and now (with your great knowledge of these religions going by your assumptions) please tell me how Similar and different all these religions are in terms of culture and ideologies.

For example , I can tell you that even if those religions may have many big similarities , in the same way I can argue that some of the ideologies and cultural ways are a WORLD APART!

Now for cultures:


Hmmmm, hopefully you might have the sense to know that there are many cultures in Asia and there are many that have large differences to others.

Yet. You base all these assumptions on Asians.

I shall share a fact:

The population of Asia is around 4.1 Billion.........



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Why do you think Pakistan wanted independence from India? It's because the majority of that section of India at the time were Muslim and the Majority of India are Hindus. The Muslims hated the Hindus and there would be serious aggravation, violence and death in this region due to the hatefulness of what is now Pakistan. Why do you think there have been so many wars between India and Pakistan?
Sorry but you are grossly misinformed. Muslims and Hindus in India had coexisted for centuries before the British came along and started separating and categorising people by their religion via the age old British tactic of 'divide-and-rule'. This should help clear things up for you:

By the end of the 19th century several nationalistic movements had started in India. Indian nationalism had grown largely since British policies of education and the advances made by the British in India in the fields of transportation and communication. However, their complete insensitivity to and distance from the peoples of India and their customs created such disillusionment with them in their subjects that the end of British rule became necessary and inevitable.

However, while the Indian National Congress was calling for Britain to Quit India, the Muslim League, in 1943, passed a resolution for them to Divide and Quit. There were several reasons for the birth of a separate Muslim homeland in the subcontinent, and all three parties-the British, the Congress and the Muslim League-were responsible.

The British had followed a divide-and-rule policy in India. Even in the census they categorised people according to religion and viewed and treated them as separate from each other. They had based their knowledge of the peoples of India on the basic religious texts and the intrinsic differences they found in them instead of on the way they coexisted in the present. The British were also still fearful of the potential threat from the Muslims, who were the former rulers of the subcontinent, ruling India for over 300 years under the Mughal Empire. In order to win them over to their side, the British helped establish the M.A.O. College at Aligarh and supported the All-India Muslim Conference, both of which were institutions from which leaders of the Muslim League and the ideology of Pakistan emerged. As soon as the League was formed, they were placed on a separate electorate. Thus the idea of the separateness of Muslims in India was built into the electoral process of India.

There was also an ideological divide between the Muslims and the Hindus of India. While there were strong feelings of nationalism in India, by the late 19th century there were also communal conflicts and movements in the country that were based on religious communities rather than class or regional ones. Some people felt that the very nature of Islam called for a communal Muslim society. Added to this were the memories of power over the Indian subcontinent that the Muslims held on to, especially those in the old centers of Mughal rule. These memories might have made it exceptionally difficult for Muslims to accept the imposition of colonial power and culture. They refused to learn English and to associate with the British. This was a severe drawback for them as they found that the Hindus were now in better positions in government than they were and thus felt that the British favored Hindus. The social reformer and educator, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, who founded M.A.O. College, taught the Muslims that education and cooperation with the British was vital for their survival in the society. Tied to all the movements of Muslim revival was the opposition to assimilation and submergence in Hindu society. Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was also the first to conceive of a separate Muslim homeland.

Hindu revivalists also deepened the chasm between he two nations. They resented the Muslims for their former rule over India. Hindu revivalists rallied for a ban on the slaughter of cows, a cheap source of meat for the Muslims. They also wanted to change the official script form the Persian to the Hindu Devanagri script, effectively making Hindi rather than Urdu the main candidate for the national language.

Congress made several mistakes in their policies which further convinced the League that it was impossible to live in a undivided India after freedom from colonial rule because their interests would be completely suppressed. One such policy was the institution of the "Bande Matram," a national anthem which expressed anti-Muslim sentiments, in the schools of India where Muslim children were forced to sing it.

The Muslim League gained power also due to the Congress. The Congress banned any support for the British during the Second World War. However the Muslim League pledged its full support, which found favour form them from the British, who also needed the help of the largely Muslim army. The Civil Disobedience Movement and the consequent withdrawal of the Congress party from politics also helped the league gain power, as they formed strong ministries in the provinces that had large Muslim populations. At the same time, the League actively campaigned to gain more support from the Muslims in India, especially under the guidance of dynamic leaders like Jinnah.

There had been some hope of an undivided India, with a government consisting of three tiers along basically the same lines as the borders of India and Pakistan at the time of Partition. However, Congress' rejection of the interim government set up under this Cabinet Mission Plan in 1942 convinced the leaders of the Muslim League that compromise was impossible and partition was the only course to take.


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I too read the HONY tour and obviously they are only going to pick out the good people, yes there are some decent people in Pakistan obviously but the majority of the country like to keep themselves to themselves and hate the rest of the world.
I ask you once again. On what basis do you make these claims?
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academic intelligence doesnt mean you have common sense and real world understanding sadly, this thread serves as an example of stupidness.

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Wow. You do know Asia has the largest population in the world in terms of Continents.

So out of that large population, there has to be many cultures and Religions.

I hate how you generalise your grievance with a certain culture/group and generalise it by adding the whole of Asia.

You need to understand how DIVERSE Asia is!

That thread of yours probably doesnt do a majority of Asians justice with the beliefs and ideas you seem to assume Asians have.

OK , now let's look at religion,

Asia is home to large populations of followers of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism to name a few and now (with your great knowledge of these religions going by your assumptions) please tell me how Similar and different all these religions are in terms of culture and ideologies.

For example , I can tell you that even if those religions may have many big similarities , in the same way I can argue that some of the ideologies and cultural ways are a WORLD APART!

Now for cultures:


Hmmmm, hopefully you might have the sense to know that there are many cultures in Asia and there are many that have large differences to others.

Yet. You base all these assumptions on Asians.

I shall share a fact:

The population of Asia is around 4.1 Billion.........

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What I described in the thread was accurate for many Asian people, yes Asia has a very large population but break down the numbers and you'll see why I have generilised.

China with a population of 1.3bn
India with a population of 1.2bn
Indonesia with a population of 226m
Japan with a population of 126m

These are the countries my generilisation applies. Countries like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia with are technically Asian actually have a middle eastern culture so these can be disregarded.

I hope this clears things up for you

N.B Middle eastern culture is mainly Muslim culture so Pakistan would fall under this type of culture.

Most religions don't cause a massive culture change except Islam and Hinduism.

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Yes yes blame it on the British, you do realise that the only reason the Muslims and Hindus started fighting was because the British were withdrawing from India causing the Independence of India. As the Hindus population was much larger Muslims were afraid of their lives being restricted when Hindus got into power, hence the Muslim league was created and so henceforth the violence started.

So you could say it's the British's fault for leaving, but I haven't checked what India was like before British colonisation so I can't make any conclusions.

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academic intelligence doesnt mean you have common sense and real world understanding sadly, this thread serves as an example of stupidness.

lol
You describe yourself so well!
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(Original post by Schrödingers Cat)
What I described in the thread was accurate for many Asian people, yes Asia has a very large population but break down the numbers and you'll see why I have generilised.

China with a population of 1.3bn
India with a population of 1.2bn
Indonesia with a population of 226m
Japan with a population of 126m

These are the countries my generilisation applies. Countries like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia with are technically Asian actually have a middle eastern culture so these can be disregarded.

I hope this clears things up for you

N.B Middle eastern culture is mainly Muslim culture so Pakistan would fall under this type of culture.

Most religions don't cause a massive culture change except Islam and Hinduism.



Yes yes blame it on the British, you do realise that the only reason the Muslims and Hindus started fighting was because the British were withdrawing from India causing the Independence of India. As the Hindus population was much larger Muslims were afraid of their lives being restricted when Hindus got into power, hence the Muslim league was created and so henceforth the violence started.

So you could say it's the British's fault for leaving, but I haven't checked what India was like before British colonisation so I can't make any conclusions.



You describe yourself so well!
no buddy, i have more common sense and street smarts in my little finger than you do clearly lol, i dont even think you understand how stupid you make yourself look sometimes. gl at notts, it has a noticeable asian population, dont be telling them you hate them all too
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no buddy, i have more common sense and street smarts in my little finger than you do clearly lol, i dont even think you understand how stupid you make yourself look sometimes. gl at notts, it has a noticeable asian population, dont be telling them you hate them all too
Nope. I'm superior to you in every way.

Oh no I love Asians! I just hate the culture, good thing most western Asians are westernised!
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Nope. I'm superior to you in every way.

Oh no I love Asians! I just hate the culture, good thing most western Asians are westernised!
that you are master yoda, i can see that on here, you are superior to everyone

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Yes yes blame it on the British, you do realise that the only reason the Muslims and Hindus started fighting was because the British were withdrawing from India causing the Independence of India. As the Hindus population was much larger Muslims were afraid of their lives being restricted when Hindus got into power, hence the Muslim league was created and so henceforth the violence started.

So you could say it's the British's fault for leaving, but I haven't checked what India was like before British colonisation so I can't make any conclusions.
You didn't even bother fully reading my post. It explains much of what you just wrote and simplified. You omitted and failed to acknowledge facts such as: In order to win them over to their side, the British helped establish the M.A.O. College at Aligarh and supported the All-India Muslim Conference, both of which were institutions from which leaders of the Muslim League and the ideology of Pakistan emerged. As soon as the League was formed, they were placed on a separate electorate. Thus the idea of the separateness of Muslims in India was built into the electoral process of India.

I'm quite disappointed. It tells me what sort of person you are and what sort of biases you hold against Pakistanis. I'm not even one of them and I still acknowledge that.
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You didn't even bother fully reading my post. It explains much of what you just wrote and simplified. You omitted and failed to acknowledge facts such as: In order to win them over to their side, the British helped establish the M.A.O. College at Aligarh and supported the All-India Muslim Conference, both of which were institutions from which leaders of the Muslim League and the ideology of Pakistan emerged. As soon as the League was formed, they were placed on a separate electorate. Thus the idea of the separateness of Muslims in India was built into the electoral process of India.

I'm quite disappointed. It tells me what sort of person you are and what sort of biases you hold against Pakistanis. I'm not even one of them and I still acknowledge that.
I did read it and I have to say I question your source. It seems you have your information confused, I don't understand how you're blaming the British

Frankly I couldn't give a **** about you
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I did read it and I have to say I question your source. It seems you have your information confused, I don't understand how you're blaming the British

Frankly I couldn't give a **** about you
Lol what have I got to do with anything? Methinks you need to renew your prescription for Valium, pal :laugh:
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I'd have to disagree. On what basis do you think most of them are hateful?

I have to admit, like you I never really paid any thought to the reasons behind my negative perception of Pakistan until I came across 'Humans of New York's recent tour of Pakistan. It was a serious eye-opener. They're people like everyone else and the main victims of all the terrible things the media tells us about them.
I just love HONY for making people realise this!
I'm a British Pakistani and trust me, the people who live there are exactly like people who live here in the UK. There are some people who are involved in such things but you can't blame everyone for it.
pakistan also has people like Malala and all the other girls who go to school everyday just to prove that everyone has equal rights. It is also land the land of Edhi who operates the largest ambulance service that runs entirely on donations.
Pakistan is developing and even Britain was in this same state 70 years ago. Every country goes through it before finally having proper law and order
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