Abortion

How dare you state that?! You know fine well that you quoted my comment when writing that response about me being anti-women. That really is foul play. It really is.



On the contrary I stated after making 20 pages of justifications that could not be bothered to offer any more justifications. All your points have been raised before and settled. Your very point was that I favour punishment of women over the baby's life was at question. It is a serious and wrong claim. Spluttered it may be, because I'm sick and tired of regurgitating points raised numerous times before. It was a direct answer and denial of your fatuous claim. I reckon the baby has a right to life, the arguments have been raised before, justified and settled as best it could. Stop trying to revive old arguments that ran out of breath many pages before.



Please listen. Probably more than half my previous comments are directly related to this. Briefly:


The issue is not only to do with the woman. The woman, generally, would say, yes I want to get rid of the baby. It's not that simple. There is a whole moral aspect surrounding it. Everyone has freewill, to an extent that the government and society limits. Freewill has moral boundaries: take murder for an example. There is potential life involved. One woman is not informed to make such a moral decision. Society is, and it's unbiased. Indeed there currently are regulations regarding abortion. It is right that we constantly judge this. What if in the future scientists suddenyl find it ou is like genocide (or something similar)? We need to bde an ever-improving moral society, and should look at these ethical issues. Individual cases should of couse be concidered and should be noted in government legislation.

Now that was brief. If you want a more detailed article then have a look through the pages for more similar arguments.

This is getting boring now. And once again you have unjustly attacked me with regards to your initial sentences.

Now leave me in peace.

How dare you state that?! You know fine well that you quoted my comment when writing that response about me being anti-women. That really is foul play. It really is. Small, unjust jibes have no place and deserve no respect in a debate.

stop pretending your leaving the thread

Do you wear a monacle?!

No, I wasn't ready.
I cried for days when I found out I was pregnant (first time round, not this time round - this time was different, it was planned).
I truthfully thought my life was over.
My entire plans for the future - finishing my french degree etc. were all up in smoke.
(you can't very well spend a year in france [part of the course] with a baby. it's totally impractical).

I wasn't about to abort it though, but my god I was so so gutted about getting pregnant.

But I was wrong - my life wasn't ruined. Yes I had to change my future plans, change my course, get married in a hurry (I never wanted to have kids before getting married, so we had a crazy time planning a marriage in only 3 months), and I had to become a mother far earlier than I would have ever expected.

But the moment I set eyes on my daughter I knew it was all worth it.

Plans change all the time. What would happen if you were to be hit by a bus tomorrow and lose the use of your legs? God willing that doesn't happen, but if it did, you would have to change your plans drastically.

Life throws things at you to alter the course that you wish to take - well who knows - maybe it's not the course that you're meant to take after all. Maybe, if you go with the flow, another better course will come around the corner.

Life is good for me. I'm actually glad I didn't continue with the french, I'm enjoying Classics even more! My grades are even better with this course than the were with the french one, and this is despite juggling a toddler and a hectic home life!

If you got pregnant, it would change your plans, I'm not denying that, but I seriously doubt it would ruin your life. You would simply make new plans.

the myth leader sleeps with men.......

I would beg to differ. But I'm too tired. You know what - whatever...

I'm going to bed now too guys, Trig and Nat remind me to rep you when I next can for providing me with the first stimulating conversation I've had in a while. I'm afraid the gay misogynist (?!) got first dibs tonight.

I heard that! I do not have much of a problem with homosexuality. I do, although, have a lovely girlfriend whom I cherish with all my heart.

I'm neither gay nor a mysogenist. You gave me neg rep because I disagreed with you ? Shameful...

Good night.

Right. That was my last comment. Good night guys.

shes really a man

go on, giggle, i dare you

After all, it's not the foetus's fault its dad was a rapist, anymore than it would be the foetus's fault if its mother forgot to take her pill. I would at least have more respect for the pro-lifers if their arguments had a little integrity but the logic of this aspect just evades me completely.

Abortions, too, can cause side effects. They are not the norm either, but they can indeed happen:
-prolonged uterine bleeding
-abdominal pain
-nausea & vomiting
-diarrhea
-fever
-infection
-incomplete abortion
-injury to organs or the cervix
-even very rare death

I think this is the closest you have come to admitting the truth behind your stance, i.e. that you and many others have these moralistic views not on the basis of the baby's right to life but on the basis that the unfortunate women who accidentally get pregnant are under some obligation to be punished.

Good to hear it.

I believe the baby has a right to life, not that the woman should be punished. That is just too petty! Substantiate your claim, please.

Children are such a blessing. Honestly, they do not ruin your life, they only make it better.

I can't help but feel sad for what you're missing out on.

Yes I had to change my future plans, change my course, get married in a hurry (I never wanted to have kids before getting married, so we had a crazy time planning a marriage in only 3 months)