Abortion

mate if you dont want that then just use all the proctection available , it's not the hardest thing !

Dont you realise that no form of protection is 100% reliable

Yeah, but the more different forms you use at once the more protected you are.

If the guy's wearing a johnny, the lass is on the pill and is wearing one of those female condom things and they're both in radiation suits, then that should minimise the risk somewhat.

ah theres too many ideas on this, from when it's first born to first heartbeat. and the whole fertilisation thing, im sure there are alot more

That is why fertilisation is the absolute defining moment, anything else is speculation and cannot be proven.

I think doctors have done research and made reasonable estimates based on foetal development to try and determine when a foetus can feel pain. I think the estimate is around 20-30 weeks.

If I make sure that I put you to sleep before killing you, does that justify my actions?

No. If a person doesn't believe in abortion, don't abort your children, but don't expect others to do the same. Its a womans body.

How do you know the foetus believes in abortion?

Look, people won't reach consensus on this, and ultimately this thread is becoming like a blunt pencil...pointless.

Please lock this thread already

I don't see why it's wrong. If ur not ready to have a baby, it was a mistake or for any other reason infact. It's ur body n ur the one hu wud have 2 carry it so it shud b ur decision. as long as its done early n not late like sum ppl, under 10 weeks max i think then i dnt feel like its reli gettin rid of a baby jus tissue thats formed. guys only dnt agree coz they dnt hav to go thru it so they cnt understand wot its like. n guys who think they shud b able to have a say need to realise that its not them hu has to do it n its not ther body.