Abortion

Time to be pragmatic. Abortions are always going to happen. They always have and always will.

Question for pro-lifers:

Would you rather have safe clean abortions or dangerous backstreet abortions?

Safe abortion = fetus looses its 'life'.

Backstreet abortion = fetus looses its 'life', and a significant amount of women loose their lives too.

So if you want abortion to become illegal you are forcing backstreet abortions. Not very pro-life is it?

I have never heard of a decent counter-argument against this practical perspective.

I shudder to the thought of 'backstreet abortion'

Aye, have you seen the film Vera Drake?

It's on Youtube.

oh no. It doesn't look like an entertainment movie .

It's not We watched it as part of our law degree at Durham.

Another relevant vid on Youtube is "The Coat Hanger Project".

Oh God...

Yup. You don't even have to look it up to know what it's about.

Ironic that pro-lifers would like to see us return to coathanger abortions.

Or they're skeptical (sceptical? I never know which is right...) about how many would turn to backstreet abortions.

Or they're skeptical (sceptical? I never know which is right...) about how many would turn to backstreet abortions.

Sceptical about what?

It has already happened.

That movie title sends a chill down my spine

Sceptical about how many would actually turn to backstreet abortion. I'm pro-choice; I understand that a significant number would, but I'm trying to put myself in a pro-life person's shoes.

A lot of pro-lifers fuel their stance by a desire to punish women for having sex. If you look closely at their arguments it always crops up. Watch out for comments such as "she chose to open her legs", "if she didn't want a baby she shouldn't have sex", etc, etc.

No recognition of the fact that sex has many purposes, not just reproduction.

A lot of pro-lifers fuel their stance by a desire to punish women for having sex. If you look closely at their arguments it always crops up. Watch out for comments such as "she chose to open her legs", "if she didn't want a baby she shouldn't have sex", etc, etc.

No recognition of the fact that sex has many purposes, not just reproduction.

Time to be pragmatic. Abortions are always going to happen. They always have and always will.

Question for pro-lifers:

Would you rather have safe clean abortions or dangerous backstreet abortions?

Safe abortion = fetus looses its 'life'.

Backstreet abortion = fetus looses its 'life', and a significant amount of women loose their lives too.

So if you want abortion to become illegal you are forcing backstreet abortions. Not very pro-life is it?

A lot of pro-lifers fuel their stance by a desire to punish women for having sex. If you look closely at their arguments it always crops up. Watch out for comments such as "she chose to open her legs", "if she didn't want a baby she shouldn't have sex", etc, etc.

No recognition of the fact that sex has many purposes, not just reproduction.

oh, and something like 50% of abortions that happen worldwide are in countries where it's illegal (although i can't find the source, arrgh). so clearly, abortion being made illegal would do very little to stop it..

I heard this too a long time ago.... just becauamse something is illegal doesn't mean people will stop. Sure it'll stop some people but others will just go to more extreme routes...