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So I'm about to start the final year of med school and I'm playing with the idea of doing my FY1 abroad. Unfortunately not much is written about doing that online but what I have found out is that the medical school decides whether the foreign (EU) post meets the requirements of the FY1 syllabus.
Obviously I google the FY syllabus and I come across this;
1 The foundation doctor as a professional and a scholar
1 Professionalism
1.1 Behaviour in the workplace
1.2 Time management
1.3 Continuity of care
1.4 Team-working
1.5 Leadership
2 Relationship and communication with patients
2.1 Treats the patient as the centre of care within a consultation
2.2 Communication with patients
2.3 Communication in difficult circumstances
2.4 Complaints
2.5 Consent
3 Safety and clinical governance
3.1 Risks of fatigue, ill health and stress
3.2 Quality and safety improvement
4 Ethical and legal issues
4.1 Medical ethical principles and confidentiality
4.2 Legal framework of medical practice
4.3 Comprehension of relevance of outside bodies to professional life
5 Teaching and training
6 Maintaining good medical practice
6.1 Lifelong learning
6.2 Evidence, guidelines, care protocols and research
Section 2 The foundation doctor as a safe and effective practitioner
7 Good clinical care
7.1 Makes patient safety a priority in clinical practice
7.2 History and examination
7.3 Diagnosis and clinical decision-making
7.4 Undertakes regular patient review
7.5 Safe prescribing
7.6 Safe use of medical devices
7.7 Infection control and hygiene
7.8 Medical record-keeping and correspondence
7.9 Interface with different specialties and with other professionals
8 Recognition and management of the acutely ill patient
8.1 Promptly assesses the acutely ill, collapsed or unconscious patient
8.2 Responds to acutely abnormal physiology
8.3 Manages patients with impaired consciousness, including seizures
8.4 Manages pain
8.5 Manages sepsis
8.6 Manages acute mental disorder and self-harm
9 Resuscitation and end of life care
9.1 Resuscitation
9.2 End of life care and appropriate use of Do Not Attempt Resuscitation (DNAR) orders/
advance decisions
10 Patients with long-term conditions
10.1 Manages patients with long-term conditions
10.2 Supporting patient decision making
10.3 Nutrition
10.4 Discharge planning
10.5 Health promotion, patient education and public health
11 Investigations
12 Procedures
So what do you actually have to do to show them that you meet those things. I'm thinking of how I could prove to the school that I will be meeting these requirements in my foreign FY post.
Has anyone had any experience with doing FY abroad or known of anyone who has?
Obviously I google the FY syllabus and I come across this;
1 The foundation doctor as a professional and a scholar
1 Professionalism
1.1 Behaviour in the workplace
1.2 Time management
1.3 Continuity of care
1.4 Team-working
1.5 Leadership
2 Relationship and communication with patients
2.1 Treats the patient as the centre of care within a consultation
2.2 Communication with patients
2.3 Communication in difficult circumstances
2.4 Complaints
2.5 Consent
3 Safety and clinical governance
3.1 Risks of fatigue, ill health and stress
3.2 Quality and safety improvement
4 Ethical and legal issues
4.1 Medical ethical principles and confidentiality
4.2 Legal framework of medical practice
4.3 Comprehension of relevance of outside bodies to professional life
5 Teaching and training
6 Maintaining good medical practice
6.1 Lifelong learning
6.2 Evidence, guidelines, care protocols and research
Section 2 The foundation doctor as a safe and effective practitioner
7 Good clinical care
7.1 Makes patient safety a priority in clinical practice
7.2 History and examination
7.3 Diagnosis and clinical decision-making
7.4 Undertakes regular patient review
7.5 Safe prescribing
7.6 Safe use of medical devices
7.7 Infection control and hygiene
7.8 Medical record-keeping and correspondence
7.9 Interface with different specialties and with other professionals
8 Recognition and management of the acutely ill patient
8.1 Promptly assesses the acutely ill, collapsed or unconscious patient
8.2 Responds to acutely abnormal physiology
8.3 Manages patients with impaired consciousness, including seizures
8.4 Manages pain
8.5 Manages sepsis
8.6 Manages acute mental disorder and self-harm
9 Resuscitation and end of life care
9.1 Resuscitation
9.2 End of life care and appropriate use of Do Not Attempt Resuscitation (DNAR) orders/
advance decisions
10 Patients with long-term conditions
10.1 Manages patients with long-term conditions
10.2 Supporting patient decision making
10.3 Nutrition
10.4 Discharge planning
10.5 Health promotion, patient education and public health
11 Investigations
12 Procedures
So what do you actually have to do to show them that you meet those things. I'm thinking of how I could prove to the school that I will be meeting these requirements in my foreign FY post.
Has anyone had any experience with doing FY abroad or known of anyone who has?
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I'm a FY1 and I don't even know what the FY1 curriculum is. If it's got anything to do with the shift I just finished, the curriculum is writing up regular medications, doing ttos, inserting venflons, doing bloods and occasionally seeing a sick patient.
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(Original post by Hippysnake)
I'm a FY1 and I don't even know what the FY1 curriculum is. If it's got anything to do with the shift I just finished, the curriculum is writing up regular medications, doing ttos, inserting venflons, doing bloods and occasionally seeing a sick patient.
I'm a FY1 and I don't even know what the FY1 curriculum is. If it's got anything to do with the shift I just finished, the curriculum is writing up regular medications, doing ttos, inserting venflons, doing bloods and occasionally seeing a sick patient.
Also important:
13. Running these bloods to the lab
14. Finding the notes for bed X
15. Chasing ALL THE THINGS
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(Original post by DexterM)
YES.
Also important:
13. Running these bloods to the lab
14. Finding the notes for bed X
15. Chasing ALL THE THINGS
YES.
Also important:
13. Running these bloods to the lab
14. Finding the notes for bed X
15. Chasing ALL THE THINGS
Okay, and if they're abnormal then...?
'erm...tell the SHO'
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I've never had an F1 so 4 years in it's still me. I still don't know what my curriculum was. I do know where the notes are for bed X though.
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(Original post by Knugs)
So I'm about to start the final year of med school and I'm playing with the idea of doing my FY1 abroad. Unfortunately not much is written about doing that online but what I have found out is that the medical school decides whether the foreign (EU) post meets the requirements of the FY1 syllabus.
Obviously I google the FY syllabus and I come across this;
1 The foundation doctor as a professional and a scholar
1 Professionalism
1.1 Behaviour in the workplace
1.2 Time management
1.3 Continuity of care
1.4 Team-working
1.5 Leadership
2 Relationship and communication with patients
2.1 Treats the patient as the centre of care within a consultation
2.2 Communication with patients
2.3 Communication in difficult circumstances
2.4 Complaints
2.5 Consent
3 Safety and clinical governance
3.1 Risks of fatigue, ill health and stress
3.2 Quality and safety improvement
4 Ethical and legal issues
4.1 Medical ethical principles and confidentiality
4.2 Legal framework of medical practice
4.3 Comprehension of relevance of outside bodies to professional life
5 Teaching and training
6 Maintaining good medical practice
6.1 Lifelong learning
6.2 Evidence, guidelines, care protocols and research
Section 2 The foundation doctor as a safe and effective practitioner
7 Good clinical care
7.1 Makes patient safety a priority in clinical practice
7.2 History and examination
7.3 Diagnosis and clinical decision-making
7.4 Undertakes regular patient review
7.5 Safe prescribing
7.6 Safe use of medical devices
7.7 Infection control and hygiene
7.8 Medical record-keeping and correspondence
7.9 Interface with different specialties and with other professionals
8 Recognition and management of the acutely ill patient
8.1 Promptly assesses the acutely ill, collapsed or unconscious patient
8.2 Responds to acutely abnormal physiology
8.3 Manages patients with impaired consciousness, including seizures
8.4 Manages pain
8.5 Manages sepsis
8.6 Manages acute mental disorder and self-harm
9 Resuscitation and end of life care
9.1 Resuscitation
9.2 End of life care and appropriate use of Do Not Attempt Resuscitation (DNAR) orders/
advance decisions
10 Patients with long-term conditions
10.1 Manages patients with long-term conditions
10.2 Supporting patient decision making
10.3 Nutrition
10.4 Discharge planning
10.5 Health promotion, patient education and public health
11 Investigations
12 Procedures
So what do you actually have to do to show them that you meet those things. I'm thinking of how I could prove to the school that I will be meeting these requirements in my foreign FY post.
Has anyone had any experience with doing FY abroad or known of anyone who has?
So I'm about to start the final year of med school and I'm playing with the idea of doing my FY1 abroad. Unfortunately not much is written about doing that online but what I have found out is that the medical school decides whether the foreign (EU) post meets the requirements of the FY1 syllabus.
Obviously I google the FY syllabus and I come across this;
1 The foundation doctor as a professional and a scholar
1 Professionalism
1.1 Behaviour in the workplace
1.2 Time management
1.3 Continuity of care
1.4 Team-working
1.5 Leadership
2 Relationship and communication with patients
2.1 Treats the patient as the centre of care within a consultation
2.2 Communication with patients
2.3 Communication in difficult circumstances
2.4 Complaints
2.5 Consent
3 Safety and clinical governance
3.1 Risks of fatigue, ill health and stress
3.2 Quality and safety improvement
4 Ethical and legal issues
4.1 Medical ethical principles and confidentiality
4.2 Legal framework of medical practice
4.3 Comprehension of relevance of outside bodies to professional life
5 Teaching and training
6 Maintaining good medical practice
6.1 Lifelong learning
6.2 Evidence, guidelines, care protocols and research
Section 2 The foundation doctor as a safe and effective practitioner
7 Good clinical care
7.1 Makes patient safety a priority in clinical practice
7.2 History and examination
7.3 Diagnosis and clinical decision-making
7.4 Undertakes regular patient review
7.5 Safe prescribing
7.6 Safe use of medical devices
7.7 Infection control and hygiene
7.8 Medical record-keeping and correspondence
7.9 Interface with different specialties and with other professionals
8 Recognition and management of the acutely ill patient
8.1 Promptly assesses the acutely ill, collapsed or unconscious patient
8.2 Responds to acutely abnormal physiology
8.3 Manages patients with impaired consciousness, including seizures
8.4 Manages pain
8.5 Manages sepsis
8.6 Manages acute mental disorder and self-harm
9 Resuscitation and end of life care
9.1 Resuscitation
9.2 End of life care and appropriate use of Do Not Attempt Resuscitation (DNAR) orders/
advance decisions
10 Patients with long-term conditions
10.1 Manages patients with long-term conditions
10.2 Supporting patient decision making
10.3 Nutrition
10.4 Discharge planning
10.5 Health promotion, patient education and public health
11 Investigations
12 Procedures
So what do you actually have to do to show them that you meet those things. I'm thinking of how I could prove to the school that I will be meeting these requirements in my foreign FY post.
Has anyone had any experience with doing FY abroad or known of anyone who has?
A lot of posts will not be available to you are you're not a doctor until after FY1 by most international standards and you'd be applying to be an intern, which might be more than one year, is probably unpaid, and will probably be a bit below what an FY1 is expected to do and may not meet criteria.
Maybe it is possible though - I'm honestly not sure.
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