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    Graduating with a STEM degree from a top Uni in 2016.

    Pretty much all grad schemes seem to be corporate jobs where you wear a suit every morning and go to meetings and make small-talk by the water cooler and pretend you give a crap about your co-workers etc....

    I prefer the idea of working in a small environment with only a few employees. Seems more personal, less robotic. Nom saying?

    However, I don't want to spend my life making minimum wage.

    Anyone else feel/felt the same way? Advice would be grand. Also not bothered about which sector I go into (bored of STEM).
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Graduating with a STEM degree from a top Uni in 2016.

    Pretty much all grad schemes seem to be corporate jobs where you wear a suit every morning and go to meetings and make small-talk by the water cooler and pretend you give a crap about your co-workers etc....

    I prefer the idea of working in a small environment with only a few employees. Seems more personal, less robotic. Nom saying?

    However, I don't want to spend my life making minimum wage.

    Anyone else feel/felt the same way? Advice would be grand. Also not bothered about which sector I go into (bored of STEM).
    I'm the same but I'm going back to do a second degree which leads to a career I want. I suppose you could find something niche at a small company. Graphic design is a good area for that but it depends what skills you have I guess. But yes, you're not the only one.
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    (Original post by somethingbeautiful)
    I'm the same but I'm going back to do a second degree which leads to a career I want. I suppose you could find something niche at a small company. Graphic design is a good area for that but it depends what skills you have I guess. But yes, you're not the only one.
    Sounds like a plan. I could do an extra year at Uni too but I'm getting sick of it all now. I couldn't do another degree.

    I honestly feel like I'd rather work on the checkout than in most grad scheme environments. Just the money of course is too little. Need to find a non-corporate job that pays enough to live on and save some money on the side.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Graduating with a STEM degree from a top Uni in 2016.

    Pretty much all grad schemes seem to be corporate jobs where you wear a suit every morning and go to meetings and make small-talk by the water cooler and pretend you give a crap about your co-workers etc....

    I prefer the idea of working in a small environment with only a few employees. Seems more personal, less robotic. Nom saying?

    However, I don't want to spend my life making minimum wage.

    Anyone else feel/felt the same way? Advice would be grand. Also not bothered about which sector I go into (bored of STEM).
    I felt the same way when I graduated - I didn't want to go down the grad scheme route, mainly because I didn't want to move to a completely unknown place which a lot of grad schemes seemed to require, but I wanted to move into a place of my own asap after graduating. So I looked for jobs in the local area which were asking for a graduate, but not a 'scheme' as such. And luckily I was in the right place at the right time. That was 4 years ago, and I've progressed in the company since then (the salary was good to begin with though), and it ticks all the boxes for me! It's the UK office of a much larger engineering company, under 10 mins drive away, don't have to wear a suit, only a small number of staff so it has all the benefits of a small company with all the perks and security of being a larger corporation. I also enjoy being part of a smaller team where everyone's role is a bit more jack-of-all-trades and no-two-days-the-same, rather than being in a huge team where everyone has a very narrow area of responsibility.

    It really is a case of being in the right place at the right time though, so keep your eyes peeled...!
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    (Original post by Duck and Cover)
    I felt the same way when I graduated - I didn't want to go down the grad scheme route, mainly because I didn't want to move to a completely unknown place which a lot of grad schemes seemed to require, but I wanted to move into a place of my own asap after graduating. So I looked for jobs in the local area which were asking for a graduate, but not a 'scheme' as such. And luckily I was in the right place at the right time. That was 4 years ago, and I've progressed in the company since then (the salary was good to begin with though), and it ticks all the boxes for me! It's the UK office of a much larger engineering company, under 10 mins drive away, don't have to wear a suit, only a small number of staff so it has all the benefits of a small company with all the perks and security of being a larger corporation. I also enjoy being part of a smaller team where everyone's role is a bit more jack-of-all-trades and no-two-days-the-same, rather than being in a huge team where everyone has a very narrow area of responsibility.

    It really is a case of being in the right place at the right time though, so keep your eyes peeled...!
    Sounds great. A lot more in line with what I'm looking at and similar goals with what I want soon after graduation.

    Do you have any tips about where to look for the applications? For example it seems like every job on "TargetJobs" is just a corporate grad scheme.
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    You'll find the corporate jobs are the only good ones. I wouldn't turn one down because you're not in a position of leverage. You need to get experienced and gain a good reputation so that you can start climbing the ladder. You may not enjoy the corporate job but look at the alternatives. Become a wage slave or join the hordes of unemployed. I'd rather work in a job that pays well even if I hated it. How many people really enjoy their work anyway
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    What degree will you have and what kind of industry are you interested in? Then people will be able to make suggestions.

    The idea that corporate jobs are the 'only good ones' as the guy above me has suggested is insane.

    Most companies in this country ARE small / medium sized businesses.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Sounds great. A lot more in line with what I'm looking at and similar goals with what I want soon after graduation.

    Do you have any tips about where to look for the applications? For example it seems like every job on "TargetJobs" is just a corporate grad scheme.
    Mine was through a local recruitment agency, and we only recruit through this one particular agency for any of the non-technical jobs as we've got a good relationship with them and they know the company well, so it's only by chance that I found it, rather than on the company's own site. However, I would really recommend using Indeed.co.uk to search for jobs as it pulls together vacancies from most if not all sources.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Anyone else feel/felt the same way? Advice would be grand. Also not bothered about which sector I go into (bored of STEM).
    All the grad schemes will be with large employers, but there's plenty of opportunities for graduates in smaller companies that can often be much more fun and relaxed but just as rewarding.

    Paging ByEeek for more info...
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    (Original post by Guybrush Sheepgood)
    What degree will you have and what kind of industry are you interested in? Then people will be able to make suggestions.
    Engineering degree. Not really fussed on going into Engineering though. If I eventually worked for an Engineering company I'd rather be in the admin/finance department if that makes sense.

    I'd be open to most sectors, particularly supply-chain/logistics or something financial related. So long as it's not to do with computers/coding or technical.
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    (Original post by Push_More_Button)
    All the grad schemes will be with large employers, but there's plenty of opportunities for graduates in smaller companies that can often be much more fun and relaxed but just as rewarding.

    Paging ByEeek for more info...
    I hope so.

    I haven't really looked at anything beyond websites like GradCracker and TargetJobs etc but they all seem to be massive corporations on there and I just imagine it would be horrible starting as a graduate in one of those types of companies.
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    (Original post by Duck and Cover)
    Mine was through a local recruitment agency, and we only recruit through this one particular agency for any of the non-technical jobs as we've got a good relationship with them and they know the company well, so it's only by chance that I found it, rather than on the company's own site. However, I would really recommend using Indeed.co.uk to search for jobs as it pulls together vacancies from most if not all sources.
    Cool. Thanks for the advice.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    I hope so.

    I haven't really looked at anything beyond websites like GradCracker and TargetJobs etc but they all seem to be massive corporations on there and I just imagine it would be horrible starting as a graduate in one of those types of companies.
    Look on the normal job sites too like Indeed and Reed. An IT specialist one is CWJobs (http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/). LinkedIn is also pretty useful, too.
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    the idea of working at a startup is one that has recently become more appealing to me, though I'm not sure how useful I'd be as a recent grad...
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    (Original post by + polarity -)
    the idea of working at a startup is one that has recently become more appealing to me, though I'm not sure how useful I'd be as a recent grad...
    Can I ask what you're doing at the moment?

    I remember reading one of your posts a year or so ago and noted that you did the same course I'm finishing up - only I'm not planning on doing the MEng.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Can I ask what you're doing at the moment?

    I remember reading one of your posts a year or so ago and noted that you did the same course I'm finishing up - only I'm not planning on doing the MEng.


    Making new plans :cry2: I applied for a PhD but they said no... but there should be some more accepting applications for 2016 entry soon, so I got over it pretty quickly. :awesome:

    In the meantime, I am looking at graduate schemes. The main problem atm is that the ones that are open now start in summer 2016 (I think), while I need something more... immediate. So I will need to look at SMEs, perhaps close to home. A friend suggested looking into startups a couple of days ago, and I really like the idea, but I haven't looked for any yet (like where do you even find them? :cyber:)

    Did anything in particular put you off the MEng?
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    start your own business brah.
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Graduating with a STEM degree from a top Uni in 2016.

    Pretty much all grad schemes seem to be corporate jobs where you wear a suit every morning and go to meetings and make small-talk by the water cooler and pretend you give a crap about your co-workers etc....

    I prefer the idea of working in a small environment with only a few employees. Seems more personal, less robotic. Nom saying?

    However, I don't want to spend my life making minimum wage.

    Anyone else feel/felt the same way? Advice would be grand. Also not bothered about which sector I go into (bored of STEM).
    Try Research and Development jobs at innovation centres/other companies - the atmosphere isn't as corporate.

    Alternatively, any tech company/tech startup will have a very chilled environment with near zero occurrence of suits.

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    Making new plans :cry2: I applied for a PhD but they said no... but there should be some more accepting applications for 2016 entry soon, so I got over it pretty quickly. :awesome:

    In the meantime, I am looking at graduate schemes. The main problem atm is that the ones that are open now start in summer 2016 (I think), while I need something more... immediate. So I will need to look at SMEs, perhaps close to home. A friend suggested looking into startups a couple of days ago, and I really like the idea, but I haven't looked for any yet (like where do you even find them? :cyber:)

    Did anything in particular put you off the MEng?
    They might advertise on your Uni careers site no? When I was looking for internships there were loads on my Uni website from smallish companies in the local city which I didn't come across anywhere else.

    I just don't want to do another year of University and I really cant see myself doing Engineering. Even the thought of the year ahead now depresses me somewhat. I need to crack on and start earning some mons. If I was going to apply to an Engineering company now I'd probably apply for roles in their admin/office/financial departments rather than Eng-type roles. I remember you saying you were into Robotics though so I can understand the MEng for you, but for me I just feel like I'll do an MSc in future if I turn out to regret leaving. Did many people you know leave after BEng?
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    (Original post by OhBreev)
    Lack of ideas and dollar bills bro
    step your game up brah
 
 
 
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