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Reply 40
MetalA
Oh and UEL is crap as well

or to be rephrased more accurately: UEL, Greenwich, London Met etc are not institutions of the highest academic standard. however, given the importance of degrees in gaining employment, a degree from these institutions is better than none at all and will help in giving students a better grounding and understanding of their chosen area.
Reply 41
Actually I would disagree. It would be better for somebody to not attend these universities at all and get some industry work experience than spend three years at a substandard institution getting a mickey mouse degree like Events Management.
Reply 42
but if they have no experience or qualifications in that field then they wont get a job and therefore wont get the industry experience. your point of view seems to be from a very naive middle class perspective. there are many people in this country that come from backgrounds that are not geared towards a professional career or education and places like greenwich can help them get out of that situation, to teach them responsibilty and time management which are skills that are part of the most basic requirement of employers, yet so many people from low socio-economic backgrounds are lacking these basic skills
Reply 43
Not all industries require degrees, especially in the Media. What do you think people did in the days before there were degrees in Events management, 10 years ago, say? The only reason there are these new degrees springing up is for the purposes of spin; Blair promised to get 50% of kids into higher education so he's had to invent degrees to meet that target. It's a shame because now you get young people thinking that they're on the right track to something whereas in reality they're just wasting their time and getting more into debt.
Reply 44
the problem is that as competition for these careers has risen rapidly over the past decade, from shifts in the uk workforce and net immigration, the requirements of most employers have become higher and higher therefore it is becoming increasingly difficult for people to gain careers without a degree and certainly prospects for promotion further on in peoples careers will be affected by whether or not they have a degree
Reply 45
incidentaly i find it interesting that you consider events management to be a poor choice of degree given that humanities degrees (english, history etc) provide the lowest graduate earnings premiums after arts degrees. humanities degrees presently stand at more than £100,000 lower than the average graduate
Reply 46
andy_85
the problem is that as competition for these careers has risen rapidly over the past decade, from shifts in the uk workforce and net immigration, the requirements of most employers have become higher and higher therefore it is becoming increasingly difficult for people to gain careers without a degree and certainly prospects for promotion further on in peoples careers will be affected by whether or not they have a degree

All the more reason to get a decent degree! As said earlier in the topic, should someone with a degree in EM decide to change career, they will be totally ****ed because it's a vocational degree.

And as for humanities students earning less, are you trying to tell me that a music graduate is going to earn more than a humanities graduate?
Reply 47
i do believe music is considered part of "arts" degrees which i said humainties degrees came lowest after. i really think only top 10 universities are worth studying at for humanities and arts. it is true that certain specialised vocational degrees can be restrictive if the person wants to change career direction later on, but so long as you can show relevance and transferable skills then it really wont be that much of a problem. besides i do think that greenwich and uel are probably the best located universities in london for anyone wishing to do something like events management, with the dome, canary wharf, excell centre as well as the olympics there isnt going to be shortages of work over the next decade. plus there is always demand for events staff at the major corporate hotels such as the hilton, marriot etc.
Reply 48
What are you on about? Don't go to uni to do a humanities course unless its a top 10 institute? I don't think i've heard such a stupid remark for a very long time.
Reply 49
Ah well I'm gonna be studying History at UCL, top 5, so as usual I can laugh. Ha. Ha. Ha. Good luck to UEL, London Met, Greenwich and any other graduates from those places. See you on the other side.
Reply 50
jonnylion
What are you on about? Don't go to uni to do a humanities course unless its a top 10 institute? I don't think i've heard such a stupid remark for a very long time.

its actually very logical. humanities degrees are very poor with regards to earnings premiums over the course of a career so the only way your really going to get any value out of it is if you get the extra premium that employers are willing to pay to those who graduate from the top universities. but it really only concerns those who choose to study on arts or humanities subjects. this is why alot of unis tend to concentrate on more vocational degrees that will be better in preparing students for specialised careers
Reply 51
MetalA
Ah well I'm gonna be studying History at UCL, top 5, so as usual I can laugh. Ha. Ha. Ha. Good luck to UEL, London Met, Greenwich and any other graduates from those places. See you on the other side.



Now I heard it all, your laughing at someone doing events management yet your doing something just as retarded and irrelevant. Oh my..
Reply 52
andy_85
or to be rephrased more accurately: UEL, Greenwich, London Met etc are not institutions of the highest academic standard. however, given the importance of degrees in gaining employment, a degree from these institutions is better than none at all and will help in giving students a better grounding and understanding of their chosen area.


Exactly.
Reply 53
MetalA
Actually I would disagree. It would be better for somebody to not attend these universities at all and get some industry work experience than spend three years at a substandard institution getting a mickey mouse degree like Events Management.


You cannot get into accounting, medicine or law without a degree. You ******.
Reply 54
jonnylion
What are you on about? Don't go to uni to do a humanities course unless its a top 10 institute? I don't think i've heard such a stupid remark for a very long time.


Yep that is what he is saying. I guess this is why people say young people have no idea what they are talking about.
Reply 55
You can get into Accounting without a degree.

And History graduates occupy more higher management roles than any other degree so I wouldn't call it 'retarded' or particularly 'irrelevant'.
Jinxed
Now I heard it all, your laughing at someone doing events management yet your doing something just as retarded and irrelevant. Oh my..


He is doing History.
Several of our top barristers did history and then did a one year law conversion course ( eg: Sumption QC ) . He might ( if he is very lucky and very competent ) end up earning over 10 million pounds a year.
Reply 57
anyway back to talking about GREENWICH not some fellows potential earnings, what do people think about the nearest pubs? ive been to the yaught and i didnt want to leave it was so cozy. is there a good ole wetherspoons near by?
Reply 58
theres tonnes by greenwich. its an amazing area, the market is really cool too when the full one runs at the weekend. plus your only a couple of dlr stops from canary wharf.. more shopping bars etc. plus you've got two massive multi screen cinema complexes close by, and goldsmiths is just up the road which means there are plenty of students around the area
Reply 59
What do you guys reckon of Goldsmith in comparison to Uni of Greenwich?

My girlfriend has received unconditional offers from various dept. within Greenwich including Advertisement and Communications – still waiting for an offer for their BA in Architecture.

She has also received an unconditional offer from Goldsmith for International Media. All I know about Goldsmith is that they have a highly regarded media department.