Poll: Which Human Right is the most important to you?
Right to Life (Makes it illegal for someone to take your life; means that the authorities are obliged to investigate your death if you die in suspicous circumstances). (7)
24.14%
Right to Liberty (Ensures that you are not arbitrarily deprived of your liberty. The state can only imprison you with good reason). (0)
0%
No Slavery or Forced Labour (You have an absolute freedom from forced labour). (1)
3.45%
Right to a Fair Trial (You are innocent util proven guilty). (4)
13.79%
No Punishment Without Law (You cannot be guilty of a crime if it wasn't against the law at the time it was commited) (0)
0%
No Torture, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment (You should never be tortured, no matter the circumstance). (2)
6.9%
Free Speech and Peaceful Protest (You have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully without inteference from the state). (4)
13.79%
Freedom of Thought, Religion and Belief (You have the right to practise your own beliefs) (2)
6.9%
No Discrimination (Everyones rights are equal). (4)
13.79%
Right to a Private Family Life (Nobody can secretly watch what you're doing or intercept private communications without very good reason like the prevention of a crime). (0)
0%
Right to Marry (As long as you are legally old enough, you have the right to marry who you like and raise a family). (0)
0%
Protection of Property (The things you own cannot be taken away from you by public bodies, without good reason). (1)
3.45%
Right to an Education (All children and young people have the right to have an education). (2)
6.9%
Free and Fair Elections (You have a right to vote for your own Government, and to make up your own mind who to vote for). (2)
6.9%
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It has lately emerged that the government intends to abolish the Human Rights Act for the British Bill of Human Rights. Regardless of your political views regarding this, surely everyone believes in at least one article of the current Human Rights Act. This poll has been designed to discover what the most important rights under the Human Rights Act are the most important for you. Just vote for the one you care the most about.
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Government just wants the human rights laws to be made and enforced in the UK as opposed to some people in the EU.

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where's the rest of this post ? the part where it says that they want to replace the human rights act with a British bill for human rights?
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where's the rest of this post ? the part where it says that they want to replace the human rights act with a British bill for human rights?
Hey, I'm not really sure what you mean, I've put up the poll now though.
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Free Speech

But I do support the British Bill of Rights and I also want it to include some Responsibilities as well
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Free Speech

But I do support the British Bill of Rights and I also want it to include some Responsibilities as well
What's wrong with the current system?
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What's wrong with the current system?
It has no responsibilities just rights and I (as do many other) believe it's a two way street

It is also open to abuse as we can see at the moment

for example

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...an-rights.html
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It has no responsibilities just rights and I (as do many other) believe it's a two way street

It is also open to abuse as we can see at the moment

for example

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...an-rights.html
'Human rights' are rights that people have just by virtue of being human. They don't have to earn it with responsibilities. Those would be called 'civil rights'.
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Human rights are human rights. They are basic rights of humans. One cannot compromise with any of them. They cannot be priorities.
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Why can I only choose one of those rights?

They're all crucial and I don't see how anyone can support compromising on any of them.
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(Original post by BrokenLife)
Human rights are human rights. They are basic rights of humans. One cannot compromise with any of them. They cannot be priorities.
(Original post by Little Toy Gun)
'Human rights' are rights that people have just by virtue of being human. They don't have to earn it with responsibilities. Those would be called 'civil rights'.
Yeah, so even Hitler, the terrorists, the guys who raped Fatmagül, this guy who put a bomb in a UK train station and other miserable, useless people would have just the same rights as you and me and the Pope???
This theory assumes that humans are born with rights just because their humans? What happens to animals, do they have rights just cuz their animals? Is mankind better than any other animal kind in the world? Other than destroying the planet and killing many species, I don't know what makes humans so special as for them to have rights by the "virtue"(?) of being humans.

Having responsabilities doesn't mean you have to earn your rights, it just means that you have to demonstrate your humaneness so that those rights apply to you.
Talking and walking over two feet dont mean anything.
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Yeah, so even Hitler, the terrorists, the guys who raped Fatmagül, this guy who put a bomb in a UK train station and other miserable, useless people would have just the same rights as you and me and the Pope???
This theory assumes that humans are born with rights just because their humans? What happens to animals, do they have rights just cuz their animals? Is mankind better than any other animal kind in the world? Other than destroying the planet and killing many species, I don't know what makes humans so special as for them to have rights by the "virtue"(?) of being humans.
Say what you want, I'm merely clarifying for you to concept of human rights and the linguistic definition of it.

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Having responsabilities doesn't mean you have to earn your rights, it just means that you have to demonstrate your humaneness so that those rights apply to you.
Talking and walking over two feet dont mean anything.
Being human is a biological definition. You don't have an argument here whatsoever.
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Just got around to read this.

So you don't believe in the legal principle of 'innocent before proven guilty'?
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Just got around to read this.

So you don't believe in the legal principle of 'innocent before proven guilty'?
Do you believe bail conditions should be abolished on this basis?
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Do you believe bail conditions should be abolished on this basis?
Interesting how you mentioned bailing, money that would be paid back should the suspect not violate court orders, instead of remand.
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Just got around to read this.

So you don't believe in the legal principle of 'innocent before proven guilty'?
Then you didn't read it as this is not what this case is about.
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It has no responsibilities just rights and I (as do many other) believe it's a two way street

It is also open to abuse as we can see at the moment

for example

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...an-rights.html

You have found a case of a man clearly mentally ill who has had his condition made worse by the tracking anklet that he was forced to wear. He is no doubt not a good person but he is a person all the same and to force him to live with the belief that he could die any second is horrible.

I too can find specific incidents which support my view, have a look: https://www.liberty-human-rights.org...man-rights-act

In advance too, I'd like to bust some of the myths that have been created recently; http://rightsinfo.org/infographics/t...-rights-myths/ .
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Why can I only choose one of those rights?

They're all crucial and I don't see how anyone can support compromising on any of them.
I felt that personally I would of liked to keep all of my rights however in order to stimulate thought on the importance of the HRA I asked people to prioritize.


I do agree with you though, I wish I could of set to let people choose maybe 3 instead of just the one.
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Then you didn't read it as this is not what this case is about.
Then you simply don't understand what actually was happening.
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Then you simply don't understand what actually was happening.
Yes I do and it wasn't about being innocent till proven guilty
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