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obsessed with being natural and healthy
I know isn't a typical h and r problem but it plays on my mind a lot, basically I always want to be as natural as I can to avoid illness etc and have always done sport as a child and thought that I was at no higher risk than any one else of getting diseases or having high blood pressure, I worked so hard as a kid by eating fruit and avoiding junk food etc and now I find this out its really annoying and Im worried I would have been more natural or better if I wasn't exclusively formula fed.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/3608.html
I asked my mum why she didn't feed me naturally and she said she doesn't care its not her problem which has made me kinda annoyed. Ive never told anyone its a socially unnaccebtable secret lol if I told anyone they would think I was mad
I just can't stand the thought of knowing I would have been better or healthier if Id have had human milk instead of formula. I know I sound vain im not its just I never mention this to anyone. There is tons of research out there saying that breast fed babies become healthier adults my mum said the long term higher risk stuff is a load of rubbish and its easier for the government and environment if babies are breast fed so they encourage it. She is a nurse but then it doesn't mean shes right, I know I sound pathetic I am but Ive not told others this friends etc think im normal lol
http://www.enotalone.com/article/3608.html
I asked my mum why she didn't feed me naturally and she said she doesn't care its not her problem which has made me kinda annoyed. Ive never told anyone its a socially unnaccebtable secret lol if I told anyone they would think I was mad
I just can't stand the thought of knowing I would have been better or healthier if Id have had human milk instead of formula. I know I sound vain im not its just I never mention this to anyone. There is tons of research out there saying that breast fed babies become healthier adults my mum said the long term higher risk stuff is a load of rubbish and its easier for the government and environment if babies are breast fed so they encourage it. She is a nurse but then it doesn't mean shes right, I know I sound pathetic I am but Ive not told others this friends etc think im normal lolScroll to see replies
Reply 1
Maybe she can't breast feed and is making an excuse up. Don't keep asking her.
Reply 2
Where as you may not agree with what she fed you (Personally I recon babies should be breast fed too) You've just gotta be grateful your parents didnt circumsize you, or smoke around you, or abuse you. Unless they did....
The point I'm getting at is your mum has probably done alot for you. Now you're older you can decide how you live, but back then it was down to your parents, so I guess you just have to accept the choices they made.
Anyway, count yourself lucky, I have some inherited cholestrol disorder thinggy - Early death for me!!
The point I'm getting at is your mum has probably done alot for you. Now you're older you can decide how you live, but back then it was down to your parents, so I guess you just have to accept the choices they made.
Anyway, count yourself lucky, I have some inherited cholestrol disorder thinggy - Early death for me!!
Well breast is best but formula milk does the job too. It's obviously preferential to breast feed.. it's good for the mother too, helps her lose weight post-birth.
Don't worry about what couldda shouldda wouldda been. Educate yourself fully so you can enter parenthood aware of how you can give your child the best start.
Don't worry about what couldda shouldda wouldda been. Educate yourself fully so you can enter parenthood aware of how you can give your child the best start.
Reply 5
booraad
Well breast is best but formula milk does the job too. It's obviously preferential to breast feed.. it's good for the mother too, helps her lose weight post-birth.
Don't worry about what couldda shouldda wouldda been. Educate yourself fully so you can enter parenthood aware of how you can give your child the best start.
Don't worry about what couldda shouldda wouldda been. Educate yourself fully so you can enter parenthood aware of how you can give your child the best start.
I will defenately breastfeed my kids if I can but I suppose im not mature enough to stop thinking of myself lol, its just I hate knowing that I would have been better, my mum said that I could have been worse than I am now if I was breast fed but I don't see how thats likely. I can't help worrying about what I couldda shouldda wouldda been, I just feel like I didn't get the natural essential food so have not developed naturally and to optimum health.
About the smoking thing well research says that children who are exposed to smoke and recieve human milk are better off than those smoke free who recieve formula.
Reply 6
Anonymous
I know isn't a typical h and r problem but it plays on my mind a lot, basically I always want to be as natural as I can to avoid illness etc and have always done sport as a child and thought that I was at no higher risk than any one else of getting diseases or having high blood pressure, I worked so hard as a kid by eating fruit and avoiding junk food etc and now I find this out its really annoying and Im worried I would have been more natural or better if I wasn't exclusively formula fed.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/3608.html
I asked my mum why she didn't feed me naturally and she said she doesn't care its not her problem which has made me kinda annoyed. Ive never told anyone its a socially unnaccebtable secret lol if I told anyone they would think I was mad I just can't stand the thought of knowing I would have been better or healthier if Id have had human milk instead of formula. I know I sound vain im not its just I never mention this to anyone. There is tons of research out there saying that breast fed babies become healthier adults my mum said the long term higher risk stuff is a load of rubbish and its easier for the government and environment if babies are breast fed so they encourage it. She is a nurse but then it doesn't mean shes right, I know I sound pathetic I am but Ive not told others this friends etc think im normal lol
http://www.enotalone.com/article/3608.html
I asked my mum why she didn't feed me naturally and she said she doesn't care its not her problem which has made me kinda annoyed. Ive never told anyone its a socially unnaccebtable secret lol if I told anyone they would think I was mad
I just can't stand the thought of knowing I would have been better or healthier if Id have had human milk instead of formula. I know I sound vain im not its just I never mention this to anyone. There is tons of research out there saying that breast fed babies become healthier adults my mum said the long term higher risk stuff is a load of rubbish and its easier for the government and environment if babies are breast fed so they encourage it. She is a nurse but then it doesn't mean shes right, I know I sound pathetic I am but Ive not told others this friends etc think im normal lolNot to be rude, but I am just beginning to put my life back together after my own mother emotionally abused me until I left home to attend university. I was nearly (and should have been) put in foster care twice and I now have great difficulties sleeping due to recurrent nightmares, and get very down sometimes. She breastfed me as a baby, but I know that I would have chosen a mother who treated me at least a little bit better than mine did but who fed me formula milk as a baby. You need to get over it because what can you do about it now anyway?
Reply 7
shavenwookiee
Where as you may not agree with what she fed you (Personally I recon babies should be breast fed too) You've just gotta be grateful your parents didnt circumsize you, or smoke around you, or abuse you. Unless they did....
The point I'm getting at is your mum has probably done alot for you. Now you're older you can decide how you live, but back then it was down to your parents, so I guess you just have to accept the choices they made.
Anyway, count yourself lucky, I have some inherited cholestrol disorder thinggy - Early death for me!!
The point I'm getting at is your mum has probably done alot for you. Now you're older you can decide how you live, but back then it was down to your parents, so I guess you just have to accept the choices they made.
Anyway, count yourself lucky, I have some inherited cholestrol disorder thinggy - Early death for me!!
Sorry about that, Im sure you don't have an early death these days with all the medication etc x
Reply 8
don't dwell on things beyond your control.
Reply 9
chloe-libertine
Not to be rude, but I am just beginning to put my life back together after my own mother emotionally abused me until I left home to attend university. I was nearly (and should have been) put in foster care twice and I now have great difficulties sleeping due to recurrent nightmares, and get very down sometimes. She breastfed me as a baby, but I know that I would have chosen a mother who treated me at least a little bit better than mine did but who fed me formula milk as a baby. You need to get over it because what can you do about it now anyway?
The last bit is what annoys me im constantly looking for articles that say formula fed babies grow to just as healthy adults as breast fed ones but never find any, guess its an obsession or something. Yes I know there are people a hundred times worse off and I do care but it doesn't stop me being like this. Have you spoke to someone about this? You probably have but I hope things get better for you.
Reply 10
Damn another baby thread, well sort of. All this research you are talking about nothing has been confirmed, there is probably just as much research finding no diffference between ff and bc infants but it all gets thrown away.
Then again there is evidence that breast fed babies have an higher risk of heart disease and stiffer arteries in adulthood, do you believe this?? If not then why should you believe all the other research against formula feeding? I thought breast feeding only provides temporary benefits such as immunity anyway.
Then again there is evidence that breast fed babies have an higher risk of heart disease and stiffer arteries in adulthood, do you believe this?? If not then why should you believe all the other research against formula feeding? I thought breast feeding only provides temporary benefits such as immunity anyway.
Reply 11
Anonymous
Sorry about that, Im sure you don't have an early death these days with all the medication etc x
Cheers. We've all gotta die of something and I'm healthy in lots of other ways so with any luck it shouldnt cause a problem for a long while yet.
Best to let things in the past go, like the other anon poster said. Why get angry about it? Save your anger for stuff you can change.
Reply 13
Vicky88
I can see your point, I have never really thought about it to be honest but you just have to think that there's nothing you can do to change the fact you were fed formula milk now so there's no point worrying about it. Just concentrate on being healthy as an adult.
How can you see there point? Formula milk is based on breast milk it is made up of natural ingredients such as iron, folic acid etc its just the ungredients are put together so its called artificial. I think.
Sunofnight
How can you see there point? Formula milk is based on breast milk it is made up of natural ingredients such as iron, folic acid etc its just the ungredients are put together so its called artificial. I think.
While artificial milks are getting closer and closer to the composition of breast milk, they'll never quite get there. As the article linked in the OP's first post says, there are many elements in naturally-produced milk that we might never quite discover, let alone understand the interactions between them all. Probably the crucial thing about breast milk is the antibodies it contains. These are known to provide the baby with passive resistance to many infections while nursing but the idea behind all this research into the long-term benefits of breast feeding is that the immunity provided in the first few months of a baby's life improves their immune system for life (as far as I understand it).
OP, the thing is, while it would be ideal for you to have been breast fed, it's not necessary for you to live a long and very healthy life. The article is rather irresponsible at the end, where it says about protecting from heart attacks, strokes etc because there is no magic prevention for these things. If you had a genetic predisposition to cardiovascular disease, for instance, or cancer, then it wouldn't matter at all if you were breast fed. Your risk would still be the same. Genetic factors aside, the most important thing in preventing illness is your lifestyle. Breastfeeding may help to give a baby a good start in life but I was formula fed and almost never get ill, while my breastfed younger siblings suffer the routine coughs and colds two or three times a year. If you have taken care of yourself, that is far, far more important to your long term health. Being breastfed wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference if you'd decided to stuff your face with saturated fat, smoke and do no exercise, you'd still be putting yourself at risk of all kinds of disease.
By the way, did you post here once before about being circumsized? Because I made this last point in that thread but I'll say it again in case you're a different person. I said that it's worth bearing in mind when we get bogged down with being "natural" and "healthy" that this is a somewhat false notion fed to us by homeopaths and health food stores wanting to make money from "natural" remedies, because it's a very pleasing notion, the one that perfect health is somehow wholesome and how we were "meant to be". But the truth is, everyone is imperfect in some way....you might be carrying genes for something really nasty and you'd never know it til you had a kid with someone who also (by some bizarre chance) happened to be carrying a gene for the same thing. I don't say that to worry you more, just to make you realise that nobody is perfect, health-wise. It's more natural to be ill than completely healthy all the time, and modern medicine is all about interfering with nature. If we lived in a time where nature ran its course more often, before vaccines and antibiotics and antiretrovirals, then yes maybe it would make a significant difference to your life to be breastfed, but nowadays you really shouldn't devote any time to worrying about it.
Reply 15
Jennybean - according to that article breast fed babies are biologically different therefore this implies that the biological make up of formula fed babies is different and unnatural right? Nature didn't design babies to be formula fed.
However I don't understand how all this research can control the variables anyway, how? Like you said about genes they are not going to consider genetics when they are looking into the long term benefits of breast milk and high risk factors.
Ive also just thought that in nature or thousands of years ago babies were breast fed all the time and many died due to lack of nutrition, so isn't formula better for a baby than human milk in this respect? At least you know that a formula fed baby is getting all the right nutrients (or most) its can't be guaranteed with breast feeding.
However I don't understand how all this research can control the variables anyway, how? Like you said about genes they are not going to consider genetics when they are looking into the long term benefits of breast milk and high risk factors.
Ive also just thought that in nature or thousands of years ago babies were breast fed all the time and many died due to lack of nutrition, so isn't formula better for a baby than human milk in this respect? At least you know that a formula fed baby is getting all the right nutrients (or most) its can't be guaranteed with breast feeding.
Sunofnight
Jennybean - according to that article breast fed babies are biologically different therefore this implies that the biological make up of formula fed babies is different and unnatural right? Nature didn't design babies to be formula fed.
Do you mean "biochemically" different? Not quite the same thing as obviously how you're fed as a baby won't alter your genetic make up, it can only influence the reactions that occur in your body. I'm assuming the article is referring to the antibodies again. I can't think what else it would mean, so no the biological make up of formula fed babies wouldn't be different, or unnatural. The only thing that can significantly change your genetic make up is mutation, which certainly wouldn't be caused by formula.
Sunofnight
Ive also just thought that in nature or thousands of years ago babies were breast fed all the time and many died due to lack of nutrition, so isn't formula better for a baby than human milk in this respect? At least you know that a formula fed baby is getting all the right nutrients (or most) its can't be guaranteed with breast feeding.
This is a valid point but I think we're assuming the majority of modern day mothers take great care to eat a sensible diet while breastfeeding so their babies get the correct balance of nutrients from the milk. Therefore formula wouldn't offer a significant advantage unless the mother's diet was in some way compromised.
P.S. Jaroxski you're insane. And on a serious note, making sweeping statements like "artificial is better", without any kind of scientific evidence to back it up, is not very clever.
Reply 18
jaroxski
Artificial is better. People are just scared because science is getting so advance now. Robots might replace us. Children might be implanted with tracking devices or mind altering DNA cells.
Thinking about it, you have a point it seems like people are scared and are crawling back to nature, though according to research breast is best.
Sunofnight
Thinking about it, you have a point it seems like people are scared and are crawling back to nature, though according to research breast is best.
Def agree that people are frightened by medical progress but can I just point out there's no such thing as "mind altering DNA cells" lol.
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