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Just how bad is it?
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I don't go to Bristol but I live there (near the uni) and the students who live near me are, I must admit, pretty 'posh,' but they still seem nice!


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There are plenty of people who come from relatively affluent areas. I dunno that i'd say that many of them are 'posh', in terms of the negative connotations that come along with calling someone posh. You do get a few, probably more than in most places, but it's still very much a minority of people.
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Maybe it might help if I gave my experiences:

1) Moved into Halls at Bristol. People start asking "which school did you go to" and when I could not recognise the names of their private schools I'd get scowls.
2) One boy even asked if I'd gone "state school or private school". When I replied with the former, he turned cold and shortly left.
3) Conventional wisdom dictates that when you don't get along with people in your immediate vicinity, go elsewhere. So that is what I did. However, I got the feeling that I was being excluded for not being upper-class enough. People would blow me off, ignore me and patronise me.

I found a group of nice people (non-posh) and told the above to them and they told me I'd picked a snobbish Hall. I knew that Hall's reputation, but yet again conventional wisdom (and TSR advice) dictated that "Halls are different every year etc". Caution: sometimes stereotypes are true.

I am in no way posh-bashing. I am not saying that posh= jerks. Since then, I have made friends with plenty of lovely people of upper-class origin. Just that there are enclaves of entitled brats around who give them a bad name.

My reason for making this thread was to see if any other Bristol students have had similar experiences of alienation and outright discrimination and to serve as a warning to all you freshers-to-be that Big Bad Wolves do exist.

Thank you.
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Smalltalk is pretty terrible for a while in first year anyway. If you don't get asked what kind of school you went to, what A-Levels you did and what you got in them, you've probably managed to not talk to a single person. And yes, I got used to people telling me that they went to Westminster, and their apathy when I said where I went. It seemed like a pretty inconsequential part of first year for me.
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(Original post by sang_dieu)
Maybe it might help if I gave my experiences:

1) Moved into Halls at Bristol. People start asking "which school did you go to" and when I could not recognise the names of their private schools I'd get scowls.
2) One boy even asked if I'd gone "state school or private school". When I replied with the former, he turned cold and shortly left.
3) Conventional wisdom dictates that when you don't get along with people in your immediate vicinity, go elsewhere. So that is what I did. However, I got the feeling that I was being excluded for not being upper-class enough. People would blow me off, ignore me and patronise me.

I found a group of nice people (non-posh) and told the above to them and they told me I'd picked a snobbish Hall. I knew that Hall's reputation, but yet again conventional wisdom (and TSR advice) dictated that "Halls are different every year etc". Caution: sometimes stereotypes are true.

I am in no way posh-bashing. I am not saying that posh= jerks. Since then, I have made friends with plenty of lovely people of upper-class origin. Just that there are enclaves of entitled brats around who give them a bad name.

My reason for making this thread was to see if any other Bristol students have had similar experiences of alienation and outright discrimination and to serve as a warning to all you freshers-to-be that Big Bad Wolves do exist.

Thank you.
I had the same experience, expect I never found direct hostility, it's just the differences are so great that it can be hard to get to know people. It's like the difference between say home students and international students (explicitly referring to the Chinese here). The language barrier makes interaction between the two groups very difficult and they naturally stay apart. The same with happens with people from different backgrounds (although to a slighter lesser extent). To be honest I felt that I was treated more with curiosity that being patronised, people didn't really know how to treat or act with state schooled students. I think the different backgrounds naturally makes the divide, but as you've said already the best thing to do is to get to know people for who they really are.

It's tough to settle in though when you first move to the University, it's a completely different environment to the one most state schooled students grew up in. It takes a while to get used to it, but I've got no regrets coming to Bristol. I'd never have been able to deal people from other backgrounds otherwise. Perhaps you should see your first year as a crash-course in middle class socialising :P
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I dont wanna go there anymore
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Do!

It's very enlightening, you'll take a lot away from it if you go to Bristol.

It was the University that converted me to wearing tweed to lectures.
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Do!

It's very enlightening, you'll take a lot away from it if you go to Bristol.

It was the University that converted me to wearing tweed to lectures.
So you became part of the elite?
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Smalltalk is pretty terrible for a while in first year anyway. If you don't get asked what kind of school you went to, what A-Levels you did and what you got in them, you've probably managed to not talk to a single person. And yes, I got used to people telling me that they went to Westminster, and their apathy when I said where I went. It seemed like a pretty inconsequential part of first year for me.
I appreciate your point. However, I encountered such trashy behaviour everywhere I turned, even well after Freshers week. I just want to see if anyone else encountered similar hostility.
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I had the same experience, expect I never found direct hostility, it's just the differences are so great that it can be hard to get to know people. It's like the difference between say home students and international students (explicitly referring to the Chinese here). The language barrier makes interaction between the two groups very difficult and they naturally stay apart. The same with happens with people from different backgrounds (although to a slighter lesser extent). To be honest I felt that I was treated more with curiosity that being patronised, people didn't really know how to treat or act with state schooled students. I think the different backgrounds naturally makes the divide, but as you've said already the best thing to do is to get to know people for who they really are.

It's tough to settle in though when you first move to the University, it's a completely different environment to the one most state schooled students grew up in. It takes a while to get used to it, but I've got no regrets coming to Bristol. I'd never have been able to deal people from other backgrounds otherwise. Perhaps you should see your first year as a crash-course in middle class socialising :P

Those are some very insightful points which are very much appreciated. However I find our experiences diverge as you mention you were treated as a curiosity, whereas I was treated like an infectious disease! I also second your point that Uni's a crash course in life education. I just want to see if anyone had similar experiences.
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Don't let the fear of encountering jerks put you off a dream education. Because that entails that the idiots have succeeded. And you are JUST as deserving of your spot in Bristol as anyone else!

My story has a happy ending- I found my footing at the start of second year. As to the bullies in Halls, they are nothing more than a distant memory. Have the courage to kick people like that aside because if they act that way to you, they really shouldn't have left Reception :
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Don't let the fear of encountering jerks put you off a dream education. Because that entails that the idiots have succeeded. And you are JUST as deserving of your spot in Bristol as anyone else!

My story has a happy ending- I found my footing at the start of second year. As to the bullies in Halls, they are nothing more than a distant memory. Have the courage to kick people like that aside because if they act that way to you, they really shouldn't have left Reception :
I am going straight into second year, but obvs in halls cos itd still be my first year at uni..
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I am going straight into second year, but obvs in halls cos itd still be my first year at uni..
Out of interest which hall are you going into?
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Out of interest which hall are you going into?
Rackhay, wasnt even one of my choices Tbh I dont care who I am around, I've been really numb and depressed for over a year so I want positive energy.. hope i lucky enough to get good friendly flatmates
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Rackhay, wasnt even one of my choices Tbh I dont care who I am around, I've been really numb and depressed for over a year so I want positive energy.. hope i lucky enough to get good friendly flatmates
You've got nothing to worry about in Rackhay. The city centre residences are a mile apart (both literally and figuratively) from the likes of Wills. Your doing a STEM subject so your'll find the people on your course are a bit more down to earth (the nicest people I met at Bristol were engineers and physicists!). Personally, I might of had a better time in a hall like that, but being in the semi-rah Hawthorns taught me how to suppress my west-country accent. I can pass off for Grammar schooled now, which is a nice skill to have.
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You've got nothing to worry about in Rackhay. The city centre residences are a mile apart (both literally and figuratively) from the likes of Wills. Your doing a STEM subject so your'll find the people on your course are a bit more down to earth (the nicest people I met at Bristol were engineers and physicists!). Personally, I might of had a better time in a hall like that, but being in the semi-rah Hawthorns taught me how to suppress my west-country accent. I can pass off for Grammar schooled now, which is a nice skill to have.
you realise everyone who had Bristol down as their insurance (meaning, Oxbridge as firm) would be forcefully placed in Rackhay right?
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you realise everyone who had Bristol down as their insurance (meaning, Oxbridge as firm) would be forcefully placed in Rackhay right?
None the less, the atmosphere in the Unite properties is very different. The concrete jungle that is Bristol city centre doesn't lend itself as well to Rah's as the oak panelling of Clifton. Seriously, considering what course your on as well, you've got nothing to worry about.
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None the less, the atmosphere in the Unite properties is very different. The concrete jungle that is Bristol city centre doesn't lend itself as well to Rah's as the oak panelling of Clifton. Seriously, considering what course your on as well, you've got nothing to worry about.
everyone would know eachother from first year !
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everyone would know eachother from first year !
In reality you tend to know the people you live with better than the people on your course. Based on this, if you just make the effort to talk to people on your course you'll be fine.

Moreover, everyone in your residence will be new to Bristol much like yourself and that's what really matters. You made a good decision going into halls.
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