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    In parliament reconvening today it was announced two british muslims who joined IS and have been plotting attacks in UK have been destroyed, by drone strikes, one of which Junaid Khan- was blown up by a US drone.

    this is the first time uk has launched a military attack outside of a war on foreign soil


    the question is shoud the UK be doing more to prevent/arrest those involved with the islamic radicalisation in this country before these people reach this murderous level and go off to join islamic gorups all over the place. Does Uk not have a responsibility to contain the threat posed by its own muslims that are radicalised.

    This means harsh sentences for any muslim making radical or extreme comments, particularly linking islamic 'duties' to political affairs - and shutting down islamic societies, websites, schools and mosques that are shown to house these sorts of people.

    what do you think
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    Better out than in, as they say.

    On a more serious note, we need to put them in prison and throw away the key. There isn't any way to reverse the brainwashing they've received via the Internet or their imams, in my view. If any rehabilitation attempt was made, they could just as easily pretend to be rehabilitated to regain their freedom. I don't think anybody who's willing to blow themselves up in the middle of a crowd should get a second chance, despite my fairly liberal views on law and order.
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    (Original post by Reformed)
    In parliament reconvening today it was announced two british muslims who joined IS and have been plotting attacks in UK have been destroyed, by drone strikes, one of which Junaid Khan- was blown up by a US drone.

    this is the first time uk has launched a military attack outside of a war on foreign soil


    the question is shoud the UK be doing more to prevent/arrest those involved with the islamic radicalisation in this country before these people reach this murderous level and go off to join islamic gorups all over the place. Does Uk not have a responsibility to contain the threat posed by its own muslims that are radicalised.

    This means harsh sentences for any muslim making radical or extreme comments, particularly linking islamic 'duties' to political affairs - and shutting down islamic societies, websites, schools and mosques that are shown to house these sorts of people.

    what do you think
    I think that their needs to be evidence that a person has left the uk and evidence that the is involved with isis before they can be killed in a foreign country.

    if you just let government to do what they like what is next?

    revolutionary socialists being killed on holiday to cuba?
    right-wing fascists taken out of by james bond while they are visiting some hate-fest concert.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    I think that their needs to be evidence that a person has left the uk and evidence that the is involved with isis before they can be killed in a foreign country.

    if you just let government to do what they like what is next?

    revolutionary socialists being killed on holiday to cuba?
    right-wing fascists taken out of by james bond while they are visiting some hate-fest concert.
    it does open some tricky legal issues - but id make the assumption the intelligence svs have already built a strong case against these two prior to the operation - after all this is a first for Uk, it is not 2nd nature to this country as it is is to the americans
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    Good move!

    A lot more should be done to punish these people, especially those who do the brainwashing.
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    Excellent news! Glad to see 2 of our own Muslim terrorists bite the dust.



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    (Original post by Reformed)
    In parliament reconvening today it was announced two british muslims who joined IS and have been plotting attacks in UK have been destroyed, by drone strikes, one of which Junaid Khan- was blown up by a US drone.

    what do you think
    There was no one called 'Junaid Khan'. Junaid Hussain was killed by a US attack and Reyaad Khan was killed by a British drone strike
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    (Original post by Ravenous)
    There was no one called 'Junaid Khan'. Junaid Hussain was killed by a US attack and Reyaad Khan was killed by a British drone strike
    fair enough, my mistake.

    are you happy these have been removed from the planet? ( im assuming you didnt know them )
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    They aren't British. I hope we just survey the population and any ISIS sympathisers deported. Would solve a lot of societys problems
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    (Original post by TSR432)
    They aren't British. I hope we just survey the population and any ISIS sympathisers deported. Would solve a lot of societys problems
    junaid hussein , killed by US drone was married to this stupid ***** - sally jones - hopefully shes next

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidston...elieved-42378/
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    (Original post by Reformed)
    In parliament reconvening today it was announced two british muslims who joined IS and have been plotting attacks in UK have been destroyed, by drone strikes, one of which Junaid Khan- was blown up by a US drone.

    this is the first time uk has launched a military attack outside of a war on foreign soil


    the question is shoud the UK be doing more to prevent/arrest those involved with the islamic radicalisation in this country before these people reach this murderous level and go off to join islamic gorups all over the place. Does Uk not have a responsibility to contain the threat posed by its own muslims that are radicalised.

    This means harsh sentences for any muslim making radical or extreme comments, particularly linking islamic 'duties' to political affairs - and shutting down islamic societies, websites, schools and mosques that are shown to house these sorts of people.

    what do you think
    Short of removing all muslim's passports or hooking people up to a polygraph, I really don't see how we can be doing much more than we can to stop them. They will always find a way if they want to go that badly, especially as freedom of movement is a given under exceptional circumstances. It would take a lot of people a lot of time to find everyone that posts as pro isis and shutting down websites etc will only drive them underground further. We can arrest people for making comments but the sentences (if they get one) won't be for long because all they've done is say something. There are people who think worse things but we can't arrest them. Banning religion won't work either, people are entitled to revere whichever sky pixie they want - so long as it affects nobody else detrimentally, that is. However, it's only islam that calls itself a religion. I see it as a cultand therefore it should be treated as such. I'd favour deporting anyone who oversteps the mark, frankly.

    As for the British jihadi boys, rather them than someone innocent like you or me who didn't choose to get involved. I've zero sympathy for them.
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    (Original post by Melonlemon)
    Short of removing all muslim's passports or hooking people up to a polygraph, I really don't see how we can be doing much more than we can to stop them. They will always find a way if they want to go that badly, especially as freedom of movement is a given under exceptional circumstances. It would take a lot of people a lot of time to find everyone that posts as pro isis and shutting down websites etc will only drive them underground further. We can arrest people for making comments but the sentences (if they get one) won't be for long because all they've done is say something. There are people who think worse things but we can't arrest them. Banning religion won't work either, people are entitled to revere whichever sky pixie they want - so long as it affects nobody else detrimentally, that is. However, it's only islam that calls itself a religion. I see it as a cultand therefore it should be treated as such. I'd favour deporting anyone who oversteps the mark, frankly.

    As for the British jihadi boys, rather them than someone innocent like you or me who didn't choose to get involved. I've zero sympathy for them.
    noone has suggessted banning any religion. however extending incitement to racial/religous hatred laws can and should be extended to a lot of islamic sermos given either by clerics and sheikhs or even made online in some islamic chat forums and societies. im surpised how few islamic promoters we are arressting here given some of the the things you can read on the internet or even hear in mosques. it has taken the uk gov 6 years to make any charges stick on anjem choudury
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    I agree with everything you say except your first sentence - someone further back in the thread was suggesting they'd like to see all religion banned.

    Things are changing bit by bit and legislation is starting to take into account these hateful people which is how they've arrested Choudary and his friend now. I just can't believe the weasel won bail. I'm sure he'll be off masterminding stuff he can crack on with if he ends up in prison.
 
 
 
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