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Wanting to get into Nursing/Midwifery or Teaching - HELP NEEDED PLS!

My friend is in quite a stressful situation and she wanted some help. She has done first year A-levels (AS) in Maths, Chem, Bio and Eng Lit and hasn't received good grades.

She wants to:
- go on to either teaching in a primary school
- or nursing/midwifery.
- She may also want to be able to teach in a secondary school. She doesn't want to be a teaching assistant.

She really wants to go to university but she is worried that doing a BTEC will not get her in to the courses she wants to do to get a job in the jobs she wants to work in.

At university she would want to do a BA Education Studies in IoE in UCL (http://www.ioe.ac.uk/study/IBAS_EDS99F.html) or something similar to that like an educational course in a good London university which can lead on to her doing a PGCE to teach in primary schools.
Or she would want to do a nursing course in a good London university to lead on to her becoming a nurse/midwife.

She has two options, either:
- retake A-levels with different subjects - Psychology, History and Eng Lit
- do a BTEC.

If she can do a BTEC to get in to any of these fields, which BTEC can she do and where in London can she do them? (preferably close to East London)


Also another friend said that there was a nursing degree in university which the NHS pays for, if anyone can tell me about that and if a BTEC or what A level reqs would be needed for her to get in then that would be great, thanks!

Thanks!

I have tried to look for her and help her, so has she, but looking for BTECs are confusing for us as other courses etc come up and is confusing
(edited 8 years ago)
Hi,

Firstly, the BTEC your friend would need to do is the BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma is Health and Social Care. This is a vocational qualification and covers many aspects related to nursing, teaching and social care in general. The majority of universities now accept BTEC's, as long as your grade meets the UCAS points criteria they are asking for (bar Cambridge and Oxford, I'm pretty sure they do not accept BTEC's, but I could be wrong).

A lot of people on my BTEC course applied for Adult nursing, Children's Nursing and Mental Health Nursing; and were accepted. Those who weren't accepted were unsuccessful mostly due to the fact they did not have enough experience, needed to demonstrate further interest and a 'caring' attitude within their personal statement, or simply failed at interview. One of my closest friends on the course will begin her teaching degree next week, so both teaching and nursing is highly achieveable with this BTEC course!

All NHS universities courses (nursing, etc) are paid for, you will also receive NHS bursaries. If you are planning on doing midwifery, I may advise you to study nursing first and then do a one year top up degree in midwifery. This is because midwifery is becoming more difficult to get into, everyone who applied for it on my course was rejected immediately. Even those doing A-Level's struggle to get in as it is so competitive. For both nursing and teaching courses, you will need to go for interview and also pass the Maths and English skills tests.

The BTEC will probably help your friend more, as they will learn about more health care related things which will be used in both nursing and teaching, such as safeguarding, life development, psychology, sociology etc. The BTEC course also requires you do 200 hours of work experience, which will come in handy when it comes to applying for uni, as almost all uni's request you have some experience. This could be done in a school, care home, hospital, baby clinic etc.

Had a look and found some colleges; not sure if they are in the right location though:
http://www.conel.ac.uk/courses/health-care-and-early-years/39-level-3/106-health-and-social-care-btec-extended-diploma-level-3.html

http://www.candi.ac.uk/courses/health-and-social-care-health-sciences-btec-level-3-extended-diploma-1

http://www.newham.ac.uk/courses/health-social-care-and-public-services/btec-extended-diploma-in-health-and-social-care/

If you would like further advice, please ask or message me I just finished the course this year :smile:
Reply 2
Original post by EmEmTheFairy
Hi,

Firstly, the BTEC your friend would need to do is the BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma is Health and Social Care. This is a vocational qualification and covers many aspects related to nursing, teaching and social care in general. The majority of universities now accept BTEC's, as long as your grade meets the UCAS points criteria they are asking for (bar Cambridge and Oxford, I'm pretty sure they do not accept BTEC's, but I could be wrong).

A lot of people on my BTEC course applied for Adult nursing, Children's Nursing and Mental Health Nursing; and were accepted. Those who weren't accepted were unsuccessful mostly due to the fact they did not have enough experience, needed to demonstrate further interest and a 'caring' attitude within their personal statement, or simply failed at interview. One of my closest friends on the course will begin her teaching degree next week, so both teaching and nursing is highly achieveable with this BTEC course!

All NHS universities courses (nursing, etc) are paid for, you will also receive NHS bursaries. If you are planning on doing midwifery, I may advise you to study nursing first and then do a one year top up degree in midwifery. This is because midwifery is becoming more difficult to get into, everyone who applied for it on my course was rejected immediately. Even those doing A-Level's struggle to get in as it is so competitive. For both nursing and teaching courses, you will need to go for interview and also pass the Maths and English skills tests.

The BTEC will probably help your friend more, as they will learn about more health care related things which will be used in both nursing and teaching, such as safeguarding, life development, psychology, sociology etc. The BTEC course also requires you do 200 hours of work experience, which will come in handy when it comes to applying for uni, as almost all uni's request you have some experience. This could be done in a school, care home, hospital, baby clinic etc.

Had a look and found some colleges; not sure if they are in the right location though:
http://www.conel.ac.uk/courses/health-care-and-early-years/39-level-3/106-health-and-social-care-btec-extended-diploma-level-3.html

http://www.candi.ac.uk/courses/health-and-social-care-health-sciences-btec-level-3-extended-diploma-1

http://www.newham.ac.uk/courses/health-social-care-and-public-services/btec-extended-diploma-in-health-and-social-care/

If you would like further advice, please ask or message me I just finished the course this year :smile:


Thank you so much for the reply! My friend has enrolled on the Tower Hamlets College course of the BTEC CACHE Level 3 Childcare course. This is the course: https://www.tower.ac.uk/under-19s/cache-level-3-diploma-in-childcare-and-education

She is not sure whether she made the right choice for Tower Hamlets College as City and Islington is also enrolling for the course. She didn't get time to visit City and Islington yet, do you have any preference if you know about it?

Also she wanted to know if that course is fine as she really wants to go to Greenwich university to study this course: http://www2.gre.ac.uk/study/courses/ug/edpri/x320

Or she wants to go UCL to study the course that I had linked in my original post, and she was wondering if she could go to those universities with that BTEC.

Is there any need to do any extra A level or will just one BTEC be fine? Also is BTEC really hard and worth it in the end? She is leaving our current sixth form which she has been in for 7 years and it's a really big move for her.

Also the UCAS points she receives at the end of the course should be at least 300 or more right?

Thank you
Original post by Susta1nz
Thank you so much for the reply! My friend has enrolled on the Tower Hamlets College course of the BTEC CACHE Level 3 Childcare course. This is the course: https://www.tower.ac.uk/under-19s/cache-level-3-diploma-in-childcare-and-education

She is not sure whether she made the right choice for Tower Hamlets College as City and Islington is also enrolling for the course. She didn't get time to visit City and Islington yet, do you have any preference if you know about it?

Also she wanted to know if that course is fine as she really wants to go to Greenwich university to study this course: http://www2.gre.ac.uk/study/courses/ug/edpri/x320

Or she wants to go UCL to study the course that I had linked in my original post, and she was wondering if she could go to those universities with that BTEC.

Is there any need to do any extra A level or will just one BTEC be fine? Also is BTEC really hard and worth it in the end? She is leaving our current sixth form which she has been in for 7 years and it's a really big move for her.

Also the UCAS points she receives at the end of the course should be at least 300 or more right?

Thank you


Hey, that's great! I'm not 100% sure on what a BTEC Cache in Childcare features, but as long as your friend can get enough UCAS points from this then they should be fine.

Just a little note, but is your friend no longer interested in midwifery? If they are, they probably will have a lot of trouble getting into a uni to do midwifery with the Childcare qual. But if they are set on doing teaching/education studies, then this course will be fine :smile:

The extra A-Level won't be needed unless your friend is worried they will not get enough points from the CACHE.

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Reply 4
Original post by Susta1nz
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Original post by EmEmTheFairy
Just a little note, but is your friend no longer interested in midwifery? If they are, they probably will have a lot of trouble getting into a uni to do midwifery with the Childcare qual


Many universities allow the CACHE qualification for midwifery.
The target grade for this qualification should be an 'A' which is equivalent to 360 UCAS points; this is the usual requirement. Here is some nice information about what the qualification is equivalent to:
https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergraduate/getting-started/entry-requirements/tariff/tariff-tables/1186

The university that was mentioned has an email address at the bottom of their entry requirements page, so you should use this if unsure.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by Davalla
Many universities allow the CACHE qualification for midwifery.
The target grade for this qualification should be an 'A' which is equivalent to 360 UCAS points; this is the usual requirement. Here is some nice information about what the qualification is equivalent to:
https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergraduate/getting-started/entry-requirements/tariff/tariff-tables/1186

The university that was mentioned has an email address at the bottom of their entry requirements page, so you should use this if unsure.


I was mainly saying that because midwifery is difficult enough to get into as it is. But thank you for the clarification :smile:

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