Is the Vatican City taking any refugees? If no, why not?

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Seeing how vocal the Pope is about allowing the refugees is, I presume he is doing likewise? But I don't think he is.



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Seeing how vocal the Pope is about allowing the refugees is, I presume he is doing likewise? But I don't think he is.



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The pope has already said that the Vatican will be housing 2 migrant families
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You don't get a free house given to you there.
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The Pope is a migrant himself
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He is taking refugees.

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Seeing how vocal the Pope is about allowing the refugees is, I presume he is doing likewise? But I don't think he is.



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If the Vatican City is taking in two families as reported (so let's say 10 people), then that is equivalent to more than 1% of their existing population (packed within a small area). Very similar in ratio to Germany taking in 800,000 against their population of 80 million, an exact 1% equivalent.

Regardless, the countries that accept the refugees, make them feel welcome and harness their energy and enthusiasm will reap the benefits. The countries that shun immigration will stutter and struggle as their population continues to age, and their economies bankrupt in the face of lack of working age productivity.
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If the Vatican City is taking in two families as reported (so let's say 10 people), then that is equivalent to more than 1% of their existing population (packed within a small area). Very similar in ratio to Germany taking in 800,000 against their population of 8 million, an exact 1% equivalent.

Regardless, the countries that accept the refugees, make them feel welcome and harness their energy and enthusiasm will reap the benefits. The countries that shun immigration will stutter and struggle as their population continues to age, and their economies bankrupt in the face of lack of working age productivity.
you mean 80 million dont you?
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If the Vatican City is taking in two families as reported (so let's say 10 people), then that is equivalent to more than 1% of their existing population (packed within a small area). Very similar in ratio to Germany taking in 800,000 against their population of 8 million, an exact 1% equivalent.

Regardless, the countries that accept the refugees, make them feel welcome and harness their energy and enthusiasm will reap the benefits. The countries that shun immigration will stutter and struggle as their population continues to age, and their economies bankrupt in the face of lack of working age productivity.
Germany has a population of over 80 million not 8mil.
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The countries that shun immigration will stutter and struggle as their population continues to age, and their economies bankrupt in the face of lack of working age productivity.
What a load of crap, especially given the advancement in automation and future predictable trends.
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you mean 80 million dont you?
Yes I do, hence the 800,000/Germany's population=1%
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Germany has a population of over 80 million not 8mil.
Apologies, my typo. 800,000/80 Million is 1%, hence the original assertion I was making was correct
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What a load of crap, especially given the advancement in automation and future predictable trends.
The advancement in automation and technology will only safeguard against the problems of the demographic timebomb in a socialist economy (which I don't support). In a capitalist economy (which I do support), the productivity gains from automation translate into corporate assets, and will therefore not trickle down into supporting the ageing and unproductive population
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translate into corporate assets, and will therefore not trickle down into supporting the ageing and unproductive population
Most people's accumulated wealth comes from a combination of property and pensions, the later of which are invested to own a proportion of those corporate assets. The trickle down comes in the form of annuities and pension fund growth.
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Apologies, my typo. 800,000/80 Million is 1%, hence the original assertion I was making was correct
Yeh i know i was just correcting the typo
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The pope has already said that the Vatican will be housing 2 migrant families


I'm sure if they moved a few of the priceless works of art they keep into a different space they could manage at least 3
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Most people's accumulated wealth comes from a combination of property and pensions, the later of which are invested to own a proportion of those corporate assets. The trickle down comes in the form of annuities and pension fund growth.
The lack of widespread pension planning and declining home ownership are some of the reasons that the demographic timebomb is potentially so harmful.

Likewise, the greying demographic and loss of productivity will subsequently lead to devaluation of property's value. Something similar may also happen with stock holdings (which make up pension funds)
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The lack of widespread pension planning and declining home ownership are some of the reasons that the demographic timebomb is potentially so harmful.

Likewise, the greying demographic and loss of productivity will subsequently lead to devaluation of property's value. Something similar may also happen with stock holdings (which make up pension funds)
Arguably there's been a bigger push for widespread pension planning in the past 2 years than there has been in the past half a century.

If property values drops, ownership will likely increase.
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Arguably there's been a bigger push for widespread pension planning in the past 2 years than there has been in the past half a century.
Yes, but it isn't necessarily translating into people taking ownership of their pension responsibilities

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If property values drops, ownership will likely increase.
Indeed, but if you have a large unproductive segment of the population which is dependent on their property value as some sort of equity, then problems will arise.
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Yes, but it isn't necessarily translating into people taking ownership of their pension responsibilities
Not by their own decisions, but general apathy and the 'opt out' approach will result in a majority having a pension pot
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I'm sure if they moved a few of the priceless works of art they keep into a different space they could manage at least 3
They could, as could everywhere else, Germany could take 2m...
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