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    As of next tuesday, Hungary will have made it a law that states that it is illegal to enter the country illegally and that whoever does will be met with force and immediately jailed. This is for all migrants and refugees alike.

    Refugees will be allowed to apply for asylum but will not be allowed to travel further than Hungary. They must seek asylum in Hungary or be turned away.

    Hungary is also planning to build an even more rigid fence along its border with Serbia and has been communicating and colluding with Serbia and both countries are taking up harsh measures to enforce control over the situation.

    Thousands of police and armed forces are being positioned to monitor the border between Hungary and Serbia and there will be a ''transition zone'' set up between the border that belongs to neither Hungary or Serbia where migrants and refugees will stay while their applications are being processed. The only ones allowed to enter Hungary will be those who receive the refugee status.

    Hungarian police and soldiers have been granted permission to use force now to gain control. There's a an article with all the information of Hungary's new found stance against the crisis.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-motorway.html



    At first I was really really against there being any use of force in this situation, but now that I have sat and thought about it, I am in favour of some sort of force being used to control this whole situation. I mean frankly, the situation is out of hand.

    Like come on, thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousand, running around and just walking into countries in large groups is just plain stupidity.

    There needs to be some CONTROL at some point.

    And it seems that the migrants and refugees start to riot and cause scenes when they don't get what they want or get to go where they want to go. It's just a meltdown situation.

    On another side note: Hungary has refugee camps set up where the refugees are escaping and trying to get to Austria and further.
    Isn't the whole EU's ''quota system'' of EU countries sharing refugees quite pointless because they are just going to escape the camps to go further and get a better 'deal'?

    What are your opinions on all this?
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    Seems like Hungary has a robust approach to stop its welfare system being overwhelmed.
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    something needs to be done to stop the tide

    These country's didn't sign up for this (no one has) and we have to take action before it's too late
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    It's hard to blame them.
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    I like it, and I think the government must do too. The media portrays the Hungary government as tough but it stops Western Europe from having to deploy their own measures
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    They can be the baddies so we don't have to be.
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    Sick of non-White people lecturing White people on immigration

    Hungary is a small country, they don't want to be made foreigners in their own homeland

    They have every right to oppose immigration

    Oh and racism, it only applies to White people

    I reject racism as its a double standard non-White people use against our race.


    Lastly many of these people are not refugees!Watch interviews with them they all say they want to go to Germany as it is wealthier...That means they are economic migrants. Any brown person can come to Europe, by boat and claim they're a refugee... Refugees should go to the nearest safe country, not travel all the way here...
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    Turkey and Greece should take notes and close their borders completely.
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    Good for Hungary. By working with Serbia and already having Macedonia beat asylum seekers that closes one of the routes. We also need Bulgaria to refuse to allow passage and then since the Balkans has closed borders we solve the Greek route bar Greece itself.
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    Well done to them for enforcing national and international law whilst still providing means for asylum.
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    (Original post by Namandi)
    As of next tuesday, Hungary will have made it a law that states that it is illegal to enter the country illegally and that whoever does will be met with force and immediately jailed. This is for all migrants and refugees alike.
    good.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Refugees will be allowed to apply for asylum but will not be allowed to travel further than Hungary. They must seek asylum in Hungary or be turned away.
    good. either apply for asylum in the first safe country (which, by some reason, always happen to be EU even for middle east countries ffs) or be turned away ASAP.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Thousands of police and armed forces are being positioned to monitor the border between Hungary and Serbia and there will be a ''transition zone'' set up between the border that belongs to neither Hungary or Serbia where migrants and refugees will stay while their applications are being processed. The only ones allowed to enter Hungary will be those who receive the refugee status.
    good. only because uk allows "asylum seekers" to disappear after they apply for that status doesn't mean other countries have to commit the same mistakes.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    And it seems that the migrants and refugees start to riot and cause scenes when they don't get what they want or get to go where they wao go. It's just a meltdown situation.
    nobody forces them to be here. they can always gtfo.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Isn't the whole EU's ''quota system'' of EU countries sharing refugees quite pointless because they are just going to escape the camps to go further and get a better 'deal'?
    in theory- they wouldn't be allowed to leave country where they've got the status. they could wait few years, apply for citizenship of given country and- if they would get it- leave it in the same way as native born citizens.
    without proper border control (i.e. not in Schangen) it would be impossible to keep them; one doesn't have to look far- in Poland Church gathered resources to support a family of 4 (pre-paid house bills, rent, they even got a guy a simple job as a joiner- nothing too fancy but better than what many native people have)- and after less than 1 weak they've packed their stuff and left overnight and went to Germany.
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    (Original post by Namandi)
    As of next tuesday, Hungary will have made it a law that states that it is illegal to enter the country illegally and that whoever does will be met with force and immediately jailed. This is for all migrants and refugees alike.
    good.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Refugees will be allowed to apply for asylum but will not be allowed to travel further than Hungary. They must seek asylum in Hungary or be turned away.
    good. either apply for asylum in the first safe country (which, by some reason, always happen to be EU even for middle east countries ffs) or be turned away ASAP.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Thousands of police and armed forces are being positioned to monitor the border between Hungary and Serbia and there will be a ''transition zone'' set up between the border that belongs to neither Hungary or Serbia where migrants and refugees will stay while their applications are being processed. The only ones allowed to enter Hungary will be those who receive the refugee status.
    good. only because uk allows "asylum seekers" to disappear after they apply for that status doesn't mean other countries have to commit the same mistakes.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    And it seems that the migrants and refugees start to riot and cause scenes when they don't get what they want or get to go where they wao go. It's just a meltdown situation.
    nobody forces them to be here. they can always gtfo.

    (Original post by Namandi)
    Isn't the whole EU's ''quota system'' of EU countries sharing refugees quite pointless because they are just going to escape the camps to go further and get a better 'deal'?
    in theory- they wouldn't be allowed to leave country where they've got the status. they could wait few years, apply for citizenship of given country and- if they would get it- leave it in the same way as native born citizens.
    without proper border control (i.e. not in Schangen) it would be impossible to keep them; one doesn't have to look far- in Poland Church gathered resources to support a family of 4 (pre-paid house bills, rent, they even got a guy a simple job as a joiner- nothing too fancy but better than what many native people have)- and after less than 1 weak they've packed their stuff and left overnight and escaped to Germany.
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    Why is it all the refugee groups and human rights groups feel that Europe has to accept all the worlds refugee's?

    Why are the native people of Europe never taken into consideration and the effect immigration has on them?


    There are plenty of other places in the world they could go that have decent living standards..
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    Illegal to enter illegally now. Whatever next.
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    First thing the government has done right since their rise to power. However...while it's true that there needs to be tougher border control, they need to shut up with the scaremongering and xenophobia. There is enough negativity as it is.
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    (Original post by Viva Emptiness)
    Illegal to enter illegally now. Whatever next.
    Does that mean it is legal now?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Does that mean it is legal now?
    No, it means that it is illegal to the point where imprisonment will occur.




    I think Hungary is doing the right thing to be honest.

    If the country doesn't want the influx of people it does not have to have it
    Is it un-humanitarian? Possibly
    Is it plausible? Absolutely

    But at the end of the day it is the country's choice. Get over it.
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    Good for them Europe is not the Continent for all.

    Let Muslim countries come to the aid.
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    Hard to blame them - Hungary hasn't done anything to anyone, they're unfairly bearing the brunt of this crisis.
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    (Original post by Namandi)
    No, it means that it is illegal to the point where imprisonment will occur.
    Double negative joke.
 
 
 
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