Saturday 12th September 2015 - The Day The Labour Party Was Reborn

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Since 1997 the Labour Party have been nothing more than red Conservatives offering a light version of Conservative policy. The red Conservatives didn't represent the people but instead represented the same corporates as the blue Tories whilst pretending to represent the people.

Yesterday, the Labour Party was reborn with a true socialist leader who will stand up for the common good with the backing of the unions against the rampant corporatism that has divided societies, scapegoated migrants for failings in government policy and has led to the increased inequality in the UK, which has led to roughly 1 in 5 children in Wales living in poverty, roughly 1 in 4 in Scotland living in poverty, and a large number in England also living in poverty.

If you want to continue being a turkey voting for Christmas then back the Conservatives with their policies of supporting the corporates at your expense, but if you want your money invested in roads, housing and the health service then make that change now and vote for the Labour Party under a true socialist.

The Labour Party now is not the apologist Tory party it was under Blair. It is a new chapter in the book of the Labour Party but it needs your support to stop the corporate snakes within the party, from performing a coup and seizing back control of the party to continue to serve their own vested interests. The Labour Party was initially set up to be a party of the people, it was never set up to sell out to the corporates at our expense.

Einstein had it right post-war in 1949 and now we have the best chance ever to enforce this progressive way of thinking and create better, more caring, more compassionate and altruistic societies for not only us in old age but for our loved ones for generations to come.

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Wow. Another corbyn thread.

Still doesn't stop the fact that labour have now become unattainable.
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Labour as a party were in a slump, from Blair-Brown-Milliband , enthusiasm was going. They needed a rocket and that they certainly have now. Corbyn will re-energise both his supporters and the 'modernizers' who may oppose him but the Labour party has come alive again.

I really do believe the political landscape is changing and there is a clear growing resentment for establishment, 'centre ground' politics. That's why so many flocked to UKIP (Opposition to immigration in my opinion is a symptom not a cause of UKIP's rise). As well as that, the SNP triumphed and Greens did well.

Now we've seen the energy and enthusiasm behind Corbyn.

Can he win a General Election? I don't know but i'm very excited to see what happens to politics now and the 'establishment' will not be allowed to be so complacent again.

Complacency and pessimism is what saw the death of New Labour and they should learn from that. New Labour went from offering fresh solutions and progressive politics into offering tory lite policies. Rather then make a stand on issues such as immigration and benefits and the corporate elites, they conceded to the tories and right wing press.

So the tories should be cautious, write off Corbyn at your own peril. Dismiss it all you want but something very real is happening.
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Blair-Brown ,
These were red Tories pushing the neoliberal way of thinking. Good riddance to the pair of them. They paraded policies like introducing a minimum wage which actually allowed the corporate monopolies to push up the cost of living tenfold, leading to millions being worse off. These is the same deceptive tactics used by the Tories in the budgets, especially the latest budget, whereby they claim most will be better off but in reality the vast majority of people will be worse off.
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(Original post by Mr JB)
Since 1997 the Labour Party have been nothing more than red Conservatives offering a light version of Conservative policy. The red Conservatives didn't represent the people but instead represented the same corporates as the blue Tories whilst pretending to represent the people.

Yesterday, the Labour Party was reborn with a true socialist leader who will stand up for the common good with the backing of the unions against the rampant corporatism that has divided societies, scapegoated migrants for failings in government policy and has led to the increased inequality in the UK, which has led to roughly 1 in 5 children in Wales living in poverty, roughly 1 in 4 in Scotland living in poverty, and a large number in England also living in poverty.

If you want to continue being a turkey voting for Christmas then back the Conservatives with their policies of supporting the corporates at your expense, but if you want your money invested in roads, housing and the health service then make that change now and vote for the Labour Party under a true socialist.

The Labour Party now is not the apologist Tory party it was under Blair. It is a new chapter in the book of the Labour Party but it needs your support to stop the corporate snakes within the party, from performing a coup and seizing back control of the party to continue to serve their own vested interests. The Labour Party was initially set up to be a party of the people, it was never set up to sell out to the corporates at our expense.

Einstein had it right post-war in 1949 and now we have the best chance ever to enforce this progressive way of thinking and create better, more caring, more compassionate and altruistic societies for not only us in old age but for our loved ones for generations to come.

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If you are referring to you r post of new labour being red tories are you Scottish? They did a lot of things a conservative government would not have dreamed of for example if Labour did not win in 1997 and for arguments sake it has been conservatives since 1979 there would be no minimum wage or tax credits so the owners of companies can create their own monopolies. How corbyn is going to represent the middle class I do not know , but he should be given a chance as you rightly state but I think the media have done enough scaremongering to take the middle class voters labour need away
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If you are referring to you r post of new labour being red tories are you Scottish? They did a lot of things a conservative government would not have dreamed of for example if Labour did not win in 1997 and for arguments sake it has been conservatives since 1979 there would be no minimum wage or tax credits so the owners of companies can create their own monopolies. How corbyn is going to represent the middle class I do not know , but he should be given a chance as you rightly state but I think the media have done enough scaremongering to take the middle class voters labour need away
New Labour (Blairism) were neoliberals just like the current Tories. Different flavours of the same crap.
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New Labour (Blairism) were neoliberals just like the current Tories. Different flavours of the same crap.
Its how the trends of politics have changed over the years . If it was Old Labour all of those years the last election winner Labour would of had was Harold Wilson in 1974
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I'm bored of these Corbyn threads. Especially by people too lazy to distinguish between Labour Party and Conservative...
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