Topless protesters disrupt Muslim conference, Paris

You schooled him that's for sure

And what makes you think they'll listen to 2 topless women?

You're missing the point. These women know that people who support domestic violence are beyond repair, so to speak, and so they weren't trying to convince them otherwise. What they were trying to do was raise awareness of the conference and the ideals raised in that conference so that we as a society can know that this sort of stuff goes on in the West, which they have obviously succeeded in.

Only because he asked for it. If you are going to correct someone's English you should at least make sure you are right about it first.

Omg stop posting my posts before I do!

Why are you reluctant to use "Muslim" and "Quran" instead of your preferred terms of "Moslem" and "Koran"?

I am writing in English so I use English words that have stood the test of time. If, one day, I decide to write in Arabic I will use Arabic words. You'll be moaning about my use of gaol and mediaeval, and my ability to punctuate correctly and spell paedophile properly next.

Well "Muslim" isn't English obviously. I was referring to its Arabic spelling but hey ho, feel as though you've achieved something massive.

Would you be happy for a racist organisation to hold an event discussing whether they should use violence against ethnic minorities to pursue their aims or not?

You don't think that calls for killing and mass rape, and unprovoked kicking count as incidents then? I've watched the video, and several attendees clearly rushed onto the stage to assault them instead of leaving the security chaps to do their job.

Are you suggesting that such "protestors", as you say, would ever be invited to actually air their opinions in a calm manner at such an event? Or even any "outsider" opinions at all?

Of course there was no other reports of violence at the event. They save that **** for home, and their wives.

Is it possible to ask the CT to remove your mod status?

You're missing the point. These women know that people who support domestic violence are beyond repair, so to speak, and so they weren't trying to convince them otherwise. What they were trying to do was raise awareness of the conference and the ideals raised in that conference so that we as a society can know that this sort of stuff goes on in the West, which they have obviously succeeded in.

You are actually using transliterated terms.

On the other hand, Moslem is English and we are conversing in English. How it might be spelled in Arabic (and it isn't Muslim, as Arabic doesn't even use the Roman alphabet) is irrelevant. I haven't achieved anything - just pointed out the error in your attempt to achieve something massive.

Not trying to achieve much actually, just getting across that it's the preferred term to be used,

Are you oblivious to my responses or what? I already stated that the west is already aware that Islam is "backward and misogynistic". This "awareness" they're attempting to raise is near enough negligible after how much people have already concluded Islam is associated with almost every negative term in the dictionary. Feel free to believe that they've succeeded, but in my eyes they haven't accomplished much- if anything at all.

Well, I'm done discussing this. It was "nice" talking to everyone? I just hope some of you aren't too offended by what I've said. I don't want to conform to an idea that I don't believe in. So bai.

[*]I haven't defended violence against women

Well knock me backwards with a siwaak! They have been transliterated into English as Moslem and Koran, and then have suffered an attempt to re-transliterate them by politically correct apologists. I can't stand political correctness, apologists or any kind of fellow-travelling.

I'll make a bargain with you: when Islam stops advocating slavery, wife-punishment, stoning, jizya and punishment for apostasy I will start using Muslim and Qur'an (you forgot the apostrophe, which is ironic in one so keen to correct others on supposed errors in Arabic transliteration).

am i wrong to challenge the view that all Muslims beat their wives

So you want to cling onto your antiquated and outdated views but then you go onto criticise others who also do so?

Seems pretty hypocritical, not to mention a tad ironic but hey, if it floats your boat, then you're welcome to.

As a muslim myself, seeing extremists like this genuinely irritates me. From what I've learnt about Islam I've always been given the impression that women in general are emotionally more sensitive than men and hence it's our role in society to treat them with care and love. It's crazy how the delusion of extremists can give the impression of Islam being a completely different religion entirely. For goodness sake, Islam itself means 'peace' so what these individuals think can be gained in beating their wives is beyond me.

What annoys me is that us normal muslims always have to deal with the consequences of their actions too. More people than I would like will see these extremist headlines and assume that all muslims share the same views/are similar in character...