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    Hi!

    I've been reading up on this particular topic for a little while now and there's a lot of information out there which isn't always helpful. I've got a few questions and I'd be super grateful for any help.

    1) Student Finance eligibility questions always ask what your family income is. What if your folks aren't looking/ in a position to support you financially at university? Is there any way to get that through to SF?

    2) I'm trying to do a dual qualification for Maths and Physics but I only scored a high 2:2 for BEng Civil Engineering. I was half a mark away from a 2:1 I've privately tutored Maths and Physics for 4 years now. This question is particularly for those who are IOP, IOM members. Is there any way I can better my application for funding from these institutions?

    3) I worked a few jobs to pay for my Engineering degree and it showed in my final results. I'm not looking to let history repeat itself so are there any other fundings I can apply for?

    Many thanks

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    (Original post by mandyarthur)
    Hi!

    I've been reading up on this particular topic for a little while now and there's a lot of information out there which isn't always helpful. I've got a few questions and I'd be super grateful for any help.

    1) Student Finance eligibility questions always ask what your family income is. What if your folks aren't looking/ in a position to support you financially at university? Is there any way to get that through to SF?

    2) I'm trying to do a dual qualification for Maths and Physics but I only scored a high 2:2 for BEng Civil Engineering. I was half a mark away from a 2:1 I've privately tutored Maths and Physics for 4 years now. This question is particularly for those who are IOP, IOM members. Is there any way I can better my application for funding from these institutions?

    3) I worked a few jobs to pay for my Engineering degree and it showed in my final results. I'm not looking to let history repeat itself so are there any other fundings I can apply for?

    Many thanks

    Mandy
    As far as student finance goes, its the same as for undergraduates. If your are under 25 then your parents income is looked at unless they are dead, you are estranged from them (and provided proof), have a child dependent or are married. No way round that- student finance can't start paying out for every parent who can't/won't contribute.

    Having said that as someone who wants to study Maths & Physics you can get non means tested bursaries because both are shortage subjects. The 2016/17 figures haven't been confirmed yet but in 2015/16 you would have got £15,000 for training to teach Physics or Maths with a 2:2. Don't know how it works for both but wouldn't expect the bursary to be double.

    Sorry no idea about your chances at IOP/IOM although you would need to check if you could get that funding on top of the government bursary- I know you can't with the chemistry bursaries from the RSC.
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    (Original post by jelly1000)
    As far as student finance goes, its the same as for undergraduates. If your are under 25 then your parents income is looked at unless they are dead, you are estranged from them (and provided proof), have a child dependent or are married. No way round that- student finance can't start paying out for every parent who can't/won't contribute.

    Having said that as someone who wants to study Maths & Physics you can get non means tested bursaries because both are shortage subjects. The 2016/17 figures haven't been confirmed yet but in 2015/16 you would have got £15,000 for training to teach Physics or Maths with a 2:2. Don't know how it works for both but wouldn't expect the bursary to be double.

    Sorry no idea about your chances at IOP/IOM although you would need to check if you could get that funding on top of the government bursary- I know you can't with the chemistry bursaries from the RSC.
    Hi! Thanks for replying. Not sure how but I completely forgot that your parents income dont get taken into account once you turn 25 and I did that just a week ago! *Phew!

    Silly question but if you qualify for bursaries, does that mean you don't get student loans?

    Thank you so much! x
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    (Original post by mandyarthur)
    Hi! Thanks for replying. Not sure how but I completely forgot that your parents income dont get taken into account once you turn 25 and I did that just a week ago! *Phew!

    Silly question but if you qualify for bursaries, does that mean you don't get student loans?

    Thank you so much! x
    I believe you can get both, but I'm not 100%
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    (Original post by mandyarthur)
    Hi! Thanks for replying. Not sure how but I completely forgot that your parents income dont get taken into account once you turn 25 and I did that just a week ago! *Phew!

    Silly question but if you qualify for bursaries, does that mean you don't get student loans?

    Thank you so much! x
    You get both the bursary and student loans+grants. x
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    As someone who just finished a PGCE in Secondary Maths with a 2:2 UG degree...

    Yes you get SFE AND a bursary. The amount of bursary doesn't change what SFE will give to you either.

    Its pretty much whatever you got for your UG plus a teeny bit more. I say that, but I seem to have in my head that the loans system is changing? But you can run the calculator on the SFE website and it'll give you an estimate!

    Whether your parents are in a position to support you or not won't make any difference to them.

    But it is a hefty bursary, even with a 2:2, so I really struggle to wonder why you would need extra funding! I mean I managed to clear £3k worth of overdraft and save up a 5% deposit on a house I am now in the process of buying! Plus you won't have time to socialise so you can save a lot of money
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    (Original post by GooglyEyedMonster)
    As someone who just finished a PGCE in Secondary Maths with a 2:2 UG degree...

    Yes you get SFE AND a bursary. The amount of bursary doesn't change what SFE will give to you either.

    Its pretty much whatever you got for your UG plus a teeny bit more. I say that, but I seem to have in my head that the loans system is changing? But you can run the calculator on the SFE website and it'll give you an estimate!

    Whether your parents are in a position to support you or not won't make any difference to them.

    But it is a hefty bursary, even with a 2:2, so I really struggle to wonder why you would need extra funding! I mean I managed to clear £3k worth of overdraft and save up a 5% deposit on a house I am now in the process of buying! Plus you won't have time to socialise so you can save a lot of money

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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    How did you find it?
    My PGCE?

    It was hands down the most stressful year of my life (although I feel my NQT year is going to beat it...) but it was also an amazing year. I learnt a lot about myself and my resilience. But also met some amazing students and staff which made the difficult days bearable. Definitely recommend it
 
 
 
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