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In an anti-war demonstration in Washington in January 2003, Jeremy Corbyn said that the Iraq War would "spawn the conflicts of the future". Considering that it caused massive sectarian violence, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and bred ISIS, who we are now engaged in a war with, he was absolutely right.

https://youtu.be/yI-jso9kFbU?t=1m23s

We'll soon have a vote on extending airstrikes to Syria, and we should bear in mind that Corbyn's been right about so many things in the past, from the Iraq War to apartheid to same-sex marriage to holding talks with the IRA.
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(Original post by viddy9)
In an anti-war demonstration in Washington in January 2003, Jeremy Corbyn said that the Iraq War would "spawn the conflicts of the future". Considering that it caused massive sectarian violence, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and bred ISIS, who we are now engaged in a war with, he was absolutely right.

https://youtu.be/yI-jso9kFbU?t=1m23s

We'll soon have a vote on extending airstrikes to Syria, and we should bear in mind that Corbyn's been right about so many things in the past, from the Iraq War to apartheid to same-sex marriage to holding talks with the IRA.
That doesn't mean he's likely to be right this time though, when we're talking about fighting a very different war against a very different enemy and with very different (and much stronger) justification.

His views on defence and particularly on dealing with ISIS are my main problems with him.
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(Original post by viddy9)
In an anti-war demonstration in Washington in January 2003, Jeremy Corbyn said that the Iraq War would "spawn the conflicts of the future". Considering that it caused massive sectarian violence, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and bred ISIS, who we are now engaged in a war with, he was absolutely right.

https://youtu.be/yI-jso9kFbU?t=1m23s

We'll soon have a vote on extending airstrikes to Syria, and we should bear in mind that Corbyn's been right about so many things in the past, from the Iraq War to apartheid to same-sex marriage to holding talks with the IRA.
That may be the case however Nigel Farage has been right on many occasions, for example on the EU etc. I would not read much into it.
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Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy - Henry Kissinger
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Leaving Afghanistan after the soviets left created the conflict of the future. Leaving Iraq too early and mismanagement of the occupation created the conflicts of the future. Removing gaddafi and not helping to fill a power vacuum is causing the conflict of the future.

Our problem is not the removal of tyrants. It is the lack of staying power and all too quick willingness to abandon countries once the easy bit is done. We left Assad alone to crush what once was a moderate opposition and now look at Syria. The answer is not as simple as do nothing.

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Don't try and paint him as some sort of wise old sage - 'spawning the conflicts of the future' is vague enough that any fortune teller could have predicted it. History has shown that protesters are often right. Just because someone got it right in the past doesn't mean they'll be right in the future.
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(Original post by Aj12)
Leaving Afghanistan after the soviets left created the conflict of the future. Leaving Iraq too early and mismanagement of the occupation created the conflicts of the future. Removing gaddafi and not helping to fill a power vacuum is causing the conflict of the future.

Our problem is not the removal of tyrants. It is the lack of staying power and all too quick willingness to abandon countries once the easy bit is done. We left Assad alone to crush what once was a moderate opposition and now look at Syria. The answer is not as simple as do nothing.

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Nailed that one. Spot on assessment.
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My local tarot card reader has also said that Iraq was a bad idea and that gay marriage should be legalized. Should we listen to his extremely qualified advice?

Just because people were right on some issues (whether by chance or not) does not mean they are some prophet or soothsayer or even qualified to lead a country.
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(Original post by viddy9)
holding talks with the IRA.
How was he right about holding talks with the IRA?

The government was way ahead of him on that. There were secret talks between the UK government and the IRA as early as 1972, when Willie Whitelaw invited several IRA commanders to his Chelsea flat to discuss whether they could find a solution to the conflict. They turned up and offered a list of untenable demands.

In the late 1980s, after a decade of government policy of confrontation with the IRA, Adams and McGuinness concluded the IRA could not prevail by violence, and contacted the UK government through an intermediary (an MI6 officer called Michael Oatley) saying they knew the conflict had essentially entered the endgame and they needed the government's help to end it. The IRA at that point was so vulnerable and infiltrated that they could not really carry on the conflict for much longer.

HMG stood firm on the principle that the IRA would not be permitted to take part in the Good Friday process unless they laid down their guns and called a ceasefire, based on the principle that the government would not negotiate at gunpoint. The IRA agreed. In the end, the IRA accepted a deal that was pretty much exactly what they could have had in the early 1970s. Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK to this day.

So Corbyn was completely wrong. His position was that the United Kingdom should surrender and withdraw from Northern Ireland. He was praising and supporting IRA terrorists at a time when they were killing his colleagues in the House of Commons, MPs like Airey Neave and Ian Gow.

Historically it is a complete joke to claim that Corbyn was somehow ahead of the game or vindicated by history. If anything, history has shown that he sympathised with and supported a terrorist organisation that murdered thousands for nothing (they didn't achieve their goal).

A lot of Corbynites who are utterly clueless about the Troubles think it's clever to say he was proved right. All they are proving is that they don't have a clue about the history of the conflict
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