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    Germany want to prosecute people who criticise immigration or make anti immigrant comments on social media.

    The end of free speech? Is free speech being criminalised so people can't speak out against immigration? no one dare criticise the multiculturalism or immigration or be prosecuted, sounds like politically correct Nazi's

    http://www.dw.com/en/facebook-must-b...aas/a-18676705
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    Sounds like a good policy. UK should take many more desperate refugees fleeing a war torn country constantly being bombarded by foreign countries and Assad.
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    Very worrying precedent being set here by the Germans.
    What has Europe come to when we cannot criticise refugees that do things like this:
    https://youtu.be/UiXXFtd-SJ8

    Hm?

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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Sounds like a good policy. UK should take many more desperate refugees fleeing a war torn country constantly being bombarded by foreign countries and Assad.
    I agree
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Sounds like a good policy. UK should take many more desperate refugees fleeing a war torn country constantly being bombarded by foreign countries and Assad.
    What a ridiculous statement; people have an absolute right to disagree with their country's politics and to be able to voice their criticism without persecution. Imagine if the Conservatives announced that from now on, opposing the decline of the welfare state will incur a fine or imprisonment? Stop being such a cretin.
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    You do realise that there's a difference between criticism and abuse? Nobody is saying that you can't criticise immigration, they're saying that you can't be abusive. They're trying to stop hate crime. Which is absolutely fair enough. Trying to stop people from being abusive towards others is not "the end of free speech", it's basic human decency. As long as you don't say anything deliberately intending to hurt somebody else, this isn't going to affect you.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    Germany want to prosecute people who criticise immigration or make anti immigrant comments on social media.
    The article you linked makes it clear that little, if anything, of what you say in your OP is true. The Germans want Facebook to remove posts that contain incitement to hatred, which Is a crime. There is no call to censor criticism of immigration, or criticism of immigrants. There is no prosecution threat.
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    Absolute nonsense and quite dangerous hatemongering spin.
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    Seems more like one German minister wants Facebook to enforce their existing community standards in a more rigorous and transparent manner.

    But then, I guess that wouldn't make for nearly so dramatic a thread title, so you're probably best stickign to the hyperbolic approach.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    The article you linked makes it clear that little, if anything, of what you say in your OP is true. The Germans want Facebook to remove posts that contain incitement to hatred, which Is a crime. There is no call to censor criticism of immigration, or criticism of immigrants. There is no prosecution threat.
    Who has the authority to say where the boundary between hate and legitimate criticism lays? The reason why we have absolute freedom of speech is to protect avant-garde and edgy criticism which includes satire. The moment you give an inch they will take a mile; once you set a precedent of taking people's right to say anything, you have failed as a society.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    Germany want to prosecute people who criticise immigration or make anti immigrant comments on social media.

    The end of free speech? Is free speech being criminalised so people can't speak out against immigration? no one dare criticise the multiculturalism or immigration or be prosecuted, sounds like politically correct Nazi's

    http://www.dw.com/en/facebook-must-b...aas/a-18676705
    This is another reason to get out of the EU, Germany are nothing but a police state, trying to enforce their will on everyone else, they tried in WW1, then WW2 and now they do with politics and economics, that nation is filth.
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    Germany should send those people to these dumps such as Syria and force them to stay there for life.
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    Germans acting like Nazis trying to limit free speech and clam down on dissent

    who would have thought it
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    (Original post by napkinsquirrel)
    Who has the authority to say where the boundary between hate and legitimate criticism lays?
    The courts.

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    The reason why we have absolute freedom of speech
    But we don't. We have freedom of speech under the law, which is entirely reasonable. I wouldn't want to be in the crowd when some idiots shouts Fire! I also don't want people inciting others to kill me.

    No country in the world offers absolute freedom of speech.
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    (Original post by napkinsquirrel)
    Who has the authority to say where the boundary between hate and legitimate criticism lays? The reason why we have absolute freedom of speech is to protect avant-garde and edgy criticism which includes satire. The moment you give an inch they will take a mile; once you set a precedent of taking people's right to say anything, you have failed as a society.
    The Public Order Act 1986, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006, and Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 all lay out provisions defining and criminalising hate speech. So the judicial system, to answer your question about who has the authority. You absolutely do not have "absolute" freedom of speech. But don't let that stand in the way of suggesting this is some wacky new liberal agenda.
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    (Original post by napkinsquirrel)
    Who has the authority to say where the boundary between hate and legitimate criticism lays? The reason why we have absolute freedom of speech is to protect avant-garde and edgy criticism which includes satire. The moment you give an inch they will take a mile; once you set a precedent of taking people's right to say anything, you have failed as a society.
    We don't have "absolute freedom of speech", nor have we done since the Paleolithic era. Apparently you've never heard of defamation, libel, copyright or the very concept of intellectual property.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Sounds like a good policy. UK should take many more desperate refugees fleeing a war torn country constantly being bombarded by foreign countries and Assad.






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    (Original post by Profesh)
    We don't have "absolute freedom of speech", nor have we done since the Paleolithic era. Apparently you've never heard of defamation, libel, copyright or the very concept of intellectual property.
    None of which fall under the label of criticism of political discourse or social commentary.
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    (Original post by ManifoldManifest)
    The Public Order Act 1986, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006, and Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 all lay out provisions defining and criminalising hate speech. So the judicial system, to answer your question about who has the authority. You absolutely do not have "absolute" freedom of speech. But don't let that stand in the way of suggesting this is some wacky new liberal agenda.
    So there's absolutely no way that these laws will be changed or overwritten from now until the end of time? There's no way that a liberal agenda could add to these laws to further stifle political criticism? The judicial system isn't set in stone and when it boils down to it you still have a human being making a decision to prosecute somebody.
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    Sensationalist title with very little bearing on what the article actually said.
 
 
 
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