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    I'm not saying that white people are disadvantaged in all cases for their race.. but next time someone tells you about white privilege...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...are-Asian.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...me-suffer.html
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    I think the judge meant, if you target people based on race, that is worse than sexually assaulting random people
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    Or conversely white girls suffer less when they are sexually assualted.

    Doesn't this legitimise the "shame" put on sexually abused Asian girls from their backwards communities?
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    "How can you be homeless and white, that's a waste of skin and opportunity"
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    I think the judge meant, if you target people based on race, that is worse than sexually assaulting random people
    She stated that the victims and their families had suffered particular "shame" in their communities because of what had happened to them.Additionally, there were cultural concerns that the girls' future prospects of being regarded as a "good catch" for arranged marriages might be damaged.Lawyers for Ul Nasir, 32, of Liversedge, West Yorkshire, argued at London's Criminal Appeal Court that his sentence had been unfairly inflated.But their complaints were rejected by Mr Justice Walker, who said: "The victims' fathers were concerned about the future marriage prospects for their daughters."Judge Cahill was having particular regard to the harm cause to the victims by this offending. That harm was aggravated by the impact on the victims and their families within this particular community".


    It's wrong to take this into account imo. It's like we are just accepting and legimsing these awful cultural views. It also means white girls are more "deserving" if they are less likely to receive this awful victim blaming (or whatever it is called).
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    wtf is the point in making a statement like this... Suffering is suffering.
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    I think the judge meant, if you target people based on race, that is worse than sexually assaulting random people
    No. He meant that because virginity is so lusted after in some communities, the sentence should be worse
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    Ceteris paribus, a sexual offence perpetrated against a minor will be met with a far greater measure of retribution than that same offence committed against an adult. Would you consider this 'child privilege'?
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    Not really understanding how this is related to privilege at all.

    These particular Asians will suffer more, and therefore this particular piece of scum got a harsher sentence. It's not as if the Judge was saying that people who abuse white victims will get more lenient sentences.
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    (Original post by Profesh)
    Ceteris paribus, a sexual offence perpetrated against a minor will be met with a far greater measure of retribution than that same offence committed against an adult. Would you consider this 'child privilege'?
    No. Because children naturally are more vulnerable than adults. They deserve extra protection while having less rights than adults too.

    Do you oppose this, or in fact think Asians should be protected by the law more than whites?
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    (Original post by Fango_Jett)
    Not really understanding how this is related to privilege at all.

    These particular Asians will suffer more, and therefore this particular piece of scum got a harsher sentence. It's not as if the Judge was saying that people who abuse white victims will get more lenient sentences.
    That is exactly what he is saying. How will they 'suffer more'. So being raped is easier when white?
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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    That is exactly what he is saying. How will they 'suffer more'. So being raped is easier when white?
    No. That is not what he is saying at all. You're warping it to suit your own interpretation. These individual victims will suffer more, according to the judge. Not all Asians. Not all brown people. Cases and sentences are not handed out on generalizations, but on a case by case basis.
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    (Original post by Fango_Jett)
    No. That is not what he is saying at all. You're warping it to suit your own interpretation. These individual victims will suffer more, according to the judge. Not all Asians. Not all brown people. Cases and sentences are not handed out on generalizations, but on a case by case basis.
    So if you rape a girl from a Muslim background, you get a sentence heavier than raping a non-Muslim. That is exactly what he is saying. That is racism. If they won't be accepted in their community for being raped, that is the fault of the community and that needs to change.

    Should disfiguring the face of a white woman get a heaver sentence than that of a woman wearing a burka, who no-one in public would have seen anyway?
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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    That is exactly what he is saying. How will they 'suffer more'. So being raped is easier when white?
    If they live in backward culture where they will get shamed and be deemed less desirable by potential husbands for being sexually abused is something would make a bad situation much worse.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    If they live in backward culture where they will get shamed and be deemed less desirable by potential husbands for being sexually abused is something would make a bad situation much worse.
    That should not influence the law.
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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    I'm not saying that white people are disadvantaged in all cases for their race.. but next time someone tells you about white privilege...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...are-Asian.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...me-suffer.html
    LOL

    You clearly have misunderstood what white privilege is. It doesn't mean that hardship to whites doesn't exist.
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    It's hard to believe, but when I go into the centre of Nottingham these days there's more mulattoes than whites. Go back 15-20 years and it was a rare sight.
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    (Original post by ridwan12)
    LOL

    You clearly have misunderstood what white privilege is. It doesn't mean that hardship to whites doesn't exist.
    It implies there is inherent advantage to being white and none to any other groups
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    (Original post by interfector)
    It's hard to believe, but when I go into the centre of Nottingham these days there's more mulattoes than whites. Go back 15-20 years and it was a rare sight.
    So you are saying that if a pretty pakistani or black girl tried it on with you, you would say no?
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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    So you are saying that if a pretty pakistani or black girl tried it on with you, you would say no?
    What's that's got to do with my observation of population replacement?
 
 
 
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