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I want to be a businessman, i think...
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
thus, i want to business
anyway...
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
I want to be a businessman, i think...
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
thus, i want to business
anyway...
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
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Basically, I'd say its easy to get into oxford, if you genuinly belong there. I did **** all work, no interview preperation, **** grades, and I strolled through the selection process. However, if you're not good enough it'll be very hard. You might be able to blag it. Really, just good luck.
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
in either Oxford or Cambridge
Decide what you want to study. These are vastly different subjects, and both Universities offer different courses. So, decide what it is you're most interested in or - if you want - what you're best at (if these aren't the same thing). And then look at the courses each University offers, and see which best suits you.
You can be a businessman without going to Oxbridge.
Oxbridge will give you a degree, YOU determine everything else.
Yes, Cambridge only accept former headboys, headgirls, and presidents.
Yes, all employers are aware that since PPE is so much easier than physics, students who take PPE must obviously be stupid and merely trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
Just say in your interview that you want to study at Oxbridge so you can make a lot of money, and they'll be sure to let you in.
Yes, all employers are aware that since PPE is so much easier than physics, students who take PPE must obviously be stupid and merely trying to pull the wool over their eyes.
Just say in your interview that you want to study at Oxbridge so you can make a lot of money, and they'll be sure to let you in.
First up, you almost certainly won't get into Oxbridge if your sole motivation is to make money. You have to have a passion for the subject(s) you want to study or you'll almost certainly be rejected at interview in favour of people who are.
To answer your questions:
1) Of the four subjects you've mentioned, I'd say that Economics at Cambridge/E & M at Oxford are the most competitive. Sciences are generally considered the least competitive, but you'd still need to be pretty damn awesome for Physics/ NatSci.
As far as A-levels go, it's about QUALITY not quantity. 5-6 A-levels do not put you at an advantage over people who are only doing 3-4. And yes, good grades are certainly a starting point, but they aren't everything, and it's certainly not as simple as "75% with all As get in compared to 10% of everyone else."
You can assume that everybody is applying with 3-4 predicted As, strong (generally straight A) AS results and a good handful of A*s and As at GCSE at the very least.
2) This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you saying you should apply for a less competitive course to maximise your chances? If so, if you don't have a passion in the subject you're doing, you won't get in even if the course is less competitive. So no, that won't work. Go for what you ENJOY and don't plan three years of your life on some theoretical employer at the end of it- particularly as your ambitions are so vague.
3) NO NO NO. Extra curriculars are all very nice, and make them want to want you, but if your academic potential isn't up to scratch, being a head boy isn't going to get you anywhere.
To answer your questions:
1) Of the four subjects you've mentioned, I'd say that Economics at Cambridge/E & M at Oxford are the most competitive. Sciences are generally considered the least competitive, but you'd still need to be pretty damn awesome for Physics/ NatSci.
As far as A-levels go, it's about QUALITY not quantity. 5-6 A-levels do not put you at an advantage over people who are only doing 3-4. And yes, good grades are certainly a starting point, but they aren't everything, and it's certainly not as simple as "75% with all As get in compared to 10% of everyone else."
You can assume that everybody is applying with 3-4 predicted As, strong (generally straight A) AS results and a good handful of A*s and As at GCSE at the very least.
2) This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you saying you should apply for a less competitive course to maximise your chances? If so, if you don't have a passion in the subject you're doing, you won't get in even if the course is less competitive. So no, that won't work. Go for what you ENJOY and don't plan three years of your life on some theoretical employer at the end of it- particularly as your ambitions are so vague.
3) NO NO NO. Extra curriculars are all very nice, and make them want to want you, but if your academic potential isn't up to scratch, being a head boy isn't going to get you anywhere.
Aj_deity
First up, you almost certainly won't get into Oxbridge if your sole motivation is to make money. You have to have a passion for the subject(s) you want to study or you'll almost certainly be rejected at interview in favour of people who are.
To answer your questions:
1) Of the four subjects you've mentioned, I'd say that Economics at Cambridge/E & M at Oxford are the most competitive. Sciences are generally considered the least competitive, but you'd still need to be pretty damn awesome for Physics/ NatSci.
As far as A-levels go, it's about QUALITY not quantity. 5-6 A-levels do not put you at an advantage over people who are only doing 3-4. And yes, good grades are certainly a starting point, but they aren't everything, and it's certainly not as simple as "75% with all As get in compared to 10% of everyone else."
You can assume that everybody is applying with 3-4 predicted As, strong (generally straight A) AS results and a good handful of A*s and As at GCSE at the very least.
2) This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you saying you should apply for a less competitive course to maximise your chances? If so, if you don't have a passion in the subject you're doing, you won't get in even if the course is less competitive. So no, that won't work. Go for what you ENJOY and don't plan three years of your life on some theoretical employer at the end of it- particularly as your ambitions are so vague.
3) NO NO NO. Extra curriculars are all very nice, and make them want to want you, but if your academic potential isn't up to scratch, being a head boy isn't going to get you anywhere.
To answer your questions:
1) Of the four subjects you've mentioned, I'd say that Economics at Cambridge/E & M at Oxford are the most competitive. Sciences are generally considered the least competitive, but you'd still need to be pretty damn awesome for Physics/ NatSci.
As far as A-levels go, it's about QUALITY not quantity. 5-6 A-levels do not put you at an advantage over people who are only doing 3-4. And yes, good grades are certainly a starting point, but they aren't everything, and it's certainly not as simple as "75% with all As get in compared to 10% of everyone else."
You can assume that everybody is applying with 3-4 predicted As, strong (generally straight A) AS results and a good handful of A*s and As at GCSE at the very least.
2) This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you saying you should apply for a less competitive course to maximise your chances? If so, if you don't have a passion in the subject you're doing, you won't get in even if the course is less competitive. So no, that won't work. Go for what you ENJOY and don't plan three years of your life on some theoretical employer at the end of it- particularly as your ambitions are so vague.
3) NO NO NO. Extra curriculars are all very nice, and make them want to want you, but if your academic potential isn't up to scratch, being a head boy isn't going to get you anywhere.
I may be wrong, but that read as "wow yoda, you're amazing".
Yoda
Basically, I'd say its easy to get into oxford, if you genuinly belong there. I did **** all work, no interview preperation, **** grades, and I strolled through the selection process. However, if you're not good enough it'll be very hard. You might be able to blag it. Really, just good luck.
Did this "stroll" involve showing them your varied and interesting conversational skills?
Seriously, you're a joke, and a tiring one at that. How can you preach your example as gospel against the collective knowledge and experience of EVERYONE ELSE on this board?
(Edit: Oh, and your reading skills evidently aren't up to much. I didn't mention you once in that. Search for your name, and you'll come up blank. See?)
Essentially, make sure you research the courses thoroughly. All of the statistics (which should be used with caution, or not at all), and course information is eaily available from their websites and prospectuses, as well browsing this forum. If your motivation is to get in to make money, with little else in mind, I doubt they'd be impressed. At your interview, you need to show that you are not only able to cope under pressure, but still speak independently/think about a problem differently, and to show a love for your chosen subject. It's quite early to be deciding though - from your sig, you're still in your GCSE year! You should have an inkling, but it could drastically change (I only decided on Maths about 2 months before applying, confident at the beginning of the VIth form that I would be doing Chemistry or Physics / PhysNatSci.). Don't worry about it too much now though - concentrate on your studies, and get good GCSEs - you put yourself in good stead for the more competitive subjects.
noojoo
how easy is it to get into oxbridge??
I want to be a businessman, i think...
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
thus, i want to business
anyway...
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
I want to be a businessman, i think...
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
thus, i want to business
anyway...
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
Looking at a combination of your predicted GCSEs and your evident lack of enthusiasm for any one subject, I'd say that your chances are slim to none.
Are the GCSEs predicted or actual? I thought from the inclusion of UMS that they were the real things.
In themselves, they're not fatal, although the lack of A*s is hardly beneficial either. But yeah, from what I've seen of your attitude and interests (admittedly not much, but still), I doubt you'll get far in your current state.
Now, if you were to find something you love, read plenty over the summer and most importantly get some awesome AS results, this would turn around. In the end, it's all up to you.
In themselves, they're not fatal, although the lack of A*s is hardly beneficial either. But yeah, from what I've seen of your attitude and interests (admittedly not much, but still), I doubt you'll get far in your current state.
Now, if you were to find something you love, read plenty over the summer and most importantly get some awesome AS results, this would turn around. In the end, it's all up to you.
Wow, I've always wanted to do one of these multiquote posts!!!
Hard....very hard.
Wow, you really have your life sorted!
Please tell how one goes about 'businessing' - I'm fascinated!
*shock horror* you can go into business without a degree from Oxbridge and there are other uni's that also give 'excellent foundations'. However, fair enough you think that Oxbridge will give you a leg up in the business world - you are probably right.
As others have said, passion for your subject is a main criterion for Oxbridge. You don't seem very passionate about anything except making money so far....
The 20% is out of everyone who applied, so obviously it will include a few no hopers, but on average most applicants are extremely well qualified. While grades are important, it is posssible to get in with lower grades if you have a very good interview etc. (I'm sure Yoda will tell you all about it in great detail....in fact he already has....except he didn't even need a good interview - he was just too amazing in general to be rejected.)
Define horrible. It is hard, but then any course at Oxbridge is hard and I don't think Oxonians will appreciate you describing their courses as 'easier'! (In fairness maths at Cam is meant to be the most challenging but everything is relative) I assure you though, no employer will look down on any degree for Oxford and will not think you have 'eluded' anything!
It's true. You will not get in unless you are Head boy AND President (whatever that is). And donate £200,000 to the college.
Seriously though, academics are the most important criteria so you need to pull your finger out, stop worrying about making money, knuckle down to get the grades, change your attitude and then you might have a chance.
noojoo
how easy is it to get into oxbridge??
Hard....very hard.
noojoo
I want to be a businessman, i think...
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
yet, i am not sure of this..
however i am sure that i want to be someone who
makes lots of
money
Wow, you really have your life sorted!
noojoo
thus, i want to business
Please tell how one goes about 'businessing' - I'm fascinated!
noojoo
anyway...
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
*shock horror* you can go into business without a degree from Oxbridge and there are other uni's that also give 'excellent foundations'. However, fair enough you think that Oxbridge will give you a leg up in the business world - you are probably right.
noojoo
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
in either Oxford or Cambridge
As others have said, passion for your subject is a main criterion for Oxbridge. You don't seem very passionate about anything except making money so far....
noojoo
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
The 20% is out of everyone who applied, so obviously it will include a few no hopers, but on average most applicants are extremely well qualified. While grades are important, it is posssible to get in with lower grades if you have a very good interview etc. (I'm sure Yoda will tell you all about it in great detail....in fact he already has....except he didn't even need a good interview - he was just too amazing in general to be rejected.)
noojoo
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
Define horrible. It is hard, but then any course at Oxbridge is hard and I don't think Oxonians will appreciate you describing their courses as 'easier'! (In fairness maths at Cam is meant to be the most challenging but everything is relative) I assure you though, no employer will look down on any degree for Oxford and will not think you have 'eluded' anything!
noojoo
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
It's true. You will not get in unless you are Head boy AND President (whatever that is). And donate £200,000 to the college.
Seriously though, academics are the most important criteria so you need to pull your finger out, stop worrying about making money, knuckle down to get the grades, change your attitude and then you might have a chance.
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
no, it's out of 800%, making the odds of you getting in a lot less i'm afraid.
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
yeah, employers hate maths degrees and the like, they're pretty much doss subjects. don't try and trick them, it won't work.
to conclude, you probably don't stand much of a chance of getting in, and i don't think you should waste a place applying. you should at least be a head boy to seriously consider applying to such a fine institution of learning..
Yoda
Basically, I'd say its easy to get into oxford, if you genuinly belong there. I did **** all work, no interview preperation, **** grades, and I strolled through the selection process. However, if you're not good enough it'll be very hard. You might be able to blag it. Really, just good luck.
What are you going to study at Oxford?
You want to go into business, and want a business related degree, so you are talking about studying physics, the CAmbridge equivalent being NatSci, which isnt remotely business-like.
oh Chewwy you're wrong about the percentages, 800% is the average throughout ALL subjects at Oxford, PPE is only 675%. Hope that's clear.
oh Chewwy you're wrong about the percentages, 800% is the average throughout ALL subjects at Oxford, PPE is only 675%. Hope that's clear.
noojoo
to do business one must have excellent foundations
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
that is why i want to go to oxbridge
i want to study either maths, economics, PPE, physics, or something related to these
in either Oxford or Cambridge
This reasoning is one of your biggest failings. The main way to get in - love your subject. If you don't, it's unlikely you'll get in, as you'd be expected to show passion and motivation to study the subject, as well as wider reading or such beforehand.
noojoo
1) How hard is it to get into these schools?
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
Are the figures presented by them on their respective websites reliable?
If they say only 20% of people applying for PPE get in, is that out of 100%
You just failed. Do you understand the idea of percentage?
noojoo
of people who have equal Alvls + GCSEs?
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
Will it be 75% of ppl applying with all As and A*s
and 5-6 Alvls getting in??
Almost everyone who applied has a string of As at A levels and GCSE, the average for PPE is between 4 and 5 As at A levels for the people who get in. But the interview is more important, as long as you have at least 3.
noojoo
2) second, is mathematics and physics horrible at cambridge
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
hitherto the success rate of applicants???? will employers
notice that you have succeeded in eluding them by applying to the
easier programs at oxford
Cambridge doesn't offer physics. And yes, employers will know the difference between Cam maths and nat sci and Ox maths and physics. However neither are easy to get into at all, both are very difficult courses.
noojoo
3) will i be at a stand down in applying for PPE if i am not
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
a president or headboy... is it purely based on academic credentials
and the interview??
Yes, but academic potential, not credentials. It's about how naturally good you are academically.
It doesn't matter what reason you apply for (with regards to getting in), it matters whether or not you have a passion for the subject. Does wanting to change the world mean you're passionate about PPE? Perhaps. Does wanting earn lots of money? No. What matters is that you show motivation for the subject.
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