B869 - Sexual Offences (Amendment) Bill Watch

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I think we should support this Bill. It is a disgusting practice to use dead animals for some kind of sexual gratification or initiation ceremony, even if a rare one.
True, although I'm not really sure what difference making it illegal would really make. I suspect it would only stop the initiation ceremonies

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Some people are born attracted to dead animals and they cannot control who they are attracted to. I condemn certain members for being necrophobic and zoophobic. These people deserve the right to marry who they love, even if it is a dead pig, and it is discriminatory to not allow them to do so.
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Nay.
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True, although I'm not really sure what difference making it illegal would really make. I suspect it would only stop the initiation ceremonies

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I doubt it would even do that
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Some people are born attracted to dead animals and they cannot control who they are attracted to. I condemn certain members for being necrophobic and zoophobic. These people deserve the right to marry who they love, even if it is a dead pig, and it is discriminatory to not allow them to do so.
What about paedophiles can they have sex with kids?
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Nay. Let people have their fetishes in peace. There can be no downside of someone ****ing a dead animal in private if they enjoy it.

I might consider a Bill to ban certain forms of initiation ceremonies...
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(Original post by Unown Uzer)
Some people are born attracted to dead animals and they cannot control who they are attracted to. I condemn certain members for being necrophobic and zoophobic. These people deserve the right to marry who they love, even if it is a dead pig, and it is discriminatory to not allow them to do so.
I've got a feeling the word should be 'necrozoophiliphobic', but on the other hand that yields no google results. Necrophobia is just a fear of the dead.

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What about paedophiles can they have sex with kids?
Completely different case; the kids are harmed when raped by a paedophile.
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Nay. Let people have their fetishes in peace. There can be no downside of someone ****ing a dead animal in private if they enjoy it.

I might consider a Bill to ban certain forms of initiation ceremonies...
actually it is possible that the dead animal would still have STI's living in it which could jump to the human and spread... there is definitely potential harm.
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Completely different case; the kids are harmed when raped by a paedophile.
Ok what about people who dig up dead people and have sex with them?
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(Original post by Unown Uzer)
Some people are born attracted to dead animals and they cannot control who they are attracted to. I condemn certain members for being necrophobic and zoophobic. These people deserve the right to marry who they love, even if it is a dead pig, and it is discriminatory to not allow them to do so.
What about consent?
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Ok what about people who dig up dead people and have sex with them?
Surely that harms the family of the dead people. Would be distressing

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Surely that harms the family of the dead people. Would be distressing

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Same could be said of the owners of a Dead animal (obviously not as bad).
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Ok what about people who dig up dead people and have sex with them?
I'm not certain this should be illegal either, but in any event I come from a standpoint that humans have moral value but other animals don't.
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Shame, I was going to write a joke bill about piggate and Aph's beat me to it. Fair play to him.
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I don't think it's honest to say there is no harm in ****ing a pig. Didn't aids become a thing because somebody had their way with a monkey?
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I don't think it's honest to say there is no harm in ****ing a pig. Didn't aids become a thing because somebody had their way with a monkey?
No... Just because it originated in a monkey and the most common form of transmission is via sex does not mean that's how the jump happened. A lot of diseases originate in animals and get transmitted to humans, most recently and well known being Ebola.
And the harm in necrozoophilia would be restricted to the person doing it.

As an aside on HIV/AIDS, the most probable explanation is SIV commonly infects purple who engage in bushmeat activities, however SIV is normally very quickly dealt with by the immune system, so one way or another there was rapid enough infection between people for it to evolved into HIV, probably through poor medical practice or prostitution. With the colonisation of Africa came large cities with a lot of prostitutes, nearly 50pc of the female population of some cities, which gave SIV a lot of opportunities to spread, despite having a low transmission rate in humans. Alternatively, it was post war with mass vaccinations reusing unsterilised single use needles.

Whatever the cause was, it almost certainly wasn't sex with monkeys.

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Much as I don't really like the harm principle because people tend to consistently be appallingly irrational, I do think in the case of sexual preferences it's something which the state can't really assess.
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Shame, I was going to write a joke bill about piggate and Aph's beat me to it. Fair play to him.
Except I don't think he means it as a joke...
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Just pointless really. Nay.
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While I find it incredibly distasteful, that in itself isn't really enough reason to make it illegal. There's no harm to other people or live animals in the act, and I very much doubt there have been many cases of people complaining due to others violating their dead pets. A nay or abstain I think.
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