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Why don't we just take all money off the rich and give it to the poor right now?
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#63
(Original post by Barack Obama)
How are they exactly? If capitalists are allowed to move their capital freely around the world, why shouldn't workers be able to freely move their labor around? Why should capital be given more rights than labor, just so the rich take can advantage of poor working conditions around the world & creating a race to the bottom in the process?
If you're in favor of any form of immigration control, then you're against free markets. Labor is a form of capital, just like a factory or a warehouse is. Immigration control is the state interfering with labour markets.
How are they exactly? If capitalists are allowed to move their capital freely around the world, why shouldn't workers be able to freely move their labor around? Why should capital be given more rights than labor, just so the rich take can advantage of poor working conditions around the world & creating a race to the bottom in the process?
If you're in favor of any form of immigration control, then you're against free markets. Labor is a form of capital, just like a factory or a warehouse is. Immigration control is the state interfering with labour markets.
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#64
(Original post by Little Popcorns)
I'll leave a bad taste in your mouth *socks Imperion in the face*
I'll leave a bad taste in your mouth *socks Imperion in the face*
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#65
(Original post by Barack Obama)
All rich people are arrogant and should be shot. Not only have they plunged us into economic chaos, but they also cause endless poverty and wars through their selfish desire for more money.
All rich people are arrogant and should be shot. Not only have they plunged us into economic chaos, but they also cause endless poverty and wars through their selfish desire for more money.
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#67
Who is OP to tell people like Elon Musk that they shouldn't have had the money to create SpaceX.
Also, this is the UK. Even as a poor question i'm richer than half the world so i don't care about those 85 richest people.
Also, this is the UK. Even as a poor question i'm richer than half the world so i don't care about those 85 richest people.
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#68
Doing it all right now would cause an economic crash and it wouldn't provide stability of income to the poor. Therefore it should be done slowly and systematically
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#69
(Original post by Sparster)
Brutal and wrong. Not being a prick but by no means are all rich people arrogant and at the end of the day, without some people being richer than others, our country would be utter ****e. 45% of the richest people's salaries are taxed and completely removed. If someone earns 1 million a year, 450,000 of that goes to the poor. How can you say that that isn't helpful? It may not be entirely fair that some are richer than others but some definitely do deserve to be richer than others. The situation is not ideal but saying that rich people should be shot is utterly wrong.
Brutal and wrong. Not being a prick but by no means are all rich people arrogant and at the end of the day, without some people being richer than others, our country would be utter ****e. 45% of the richest people's salaries are taxed and completely removed. If someone earns 1 million a year, 450,000 of that goes to the poor. How can you say that that isn't helpful? It may not be entirely fair that some are richer than others but some definitely do deserve to be richer than others. The situation is not ideal but saying that rich people should be shot is utterly wrong.
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#70
(Original post by Hydeman)
I agree with your post. Just wanted to point out one thing though: income tax in the UK is bracketed. So you only pay the 45 percent rate on earnings over £150 000. For example, if you were earning £150 001, you would pay no tax on the first £10 600, 20 percent on the next thirty-something thousand, 40 something between the amount above that up to £150 000, and finally 45 percent (45p) on earnings above the £150 000 threshold. So the overall tax rate is usually less than 45 percent.
I agree with your post. Just wanted to point out one thing though: income tax in the UK is bracketed. So you only pay the 45 percent rate on earnings over £150 000. For example, if you were earning £150 001, you would pay no tax on the first £10 600, 20 percent on the next thirty-something thousand, 40 something between the amount above that up to £150 000, and finally 45 percent (45p) on earnings above the £150 000 threshold. So the overall tax rate is usually less than 45 percent.
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#72
(Original post by Sparster)
Hi, yeah you have a very fair point. My point ends up roughly the same though, the rich do end up paying an extraordinary amount of money which goes to the poor. Yes some may be pricks and others lucky to be where they are but they do hitch the poor up quite dramatically from their taxes. Good point.
Hi, yeah you have a very fair point. My point ends up roughly the same though, the rich do end up paying an extraordinary amount of money which goes to the poor. Yes some may be pricks and others lucky to be where they are but they do hitch the poor up quite dramatically from their taxes. Good point.
I probably couldn't find a link but I remember reading a Guardian article about how the top 1 percent of earners are responsible for 30 percent of all income tax revenue, a point that I was surprised to see the Guardian not doing its level-best to suppress in the data.The OP sounds quite immature with his insistence that the rich are all arrogant pricks who deserve to be shot just for having more money than other people. Of course, he could be a Communist who believes that private ownership of anything is theft... That would explain his view.
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#73
(Original post by Hydeman)
Yeah, I agree.
I probably couldn't find a link but I remember reading a Guardian article about how the top 1 percent of earners are responsible for 30 percent of all income tax revenue, a point that I was surprised to see the Guardian not doing its level-best to suppress in the data.
The OP sounds quite immature with his insistence that the rich are all arrogant pricks who deserve to be shot just for having more money than other people. Of course, he could be a Communist who believes that private ownership of anything is theft... That would explain his view.
Yeah, I agree.
I probably couldn't find a link but I remember reading a Guardian article about how the top 1 percent of earners are responsible for 30 percent of all income tax revenue, a point that I was surprised to see the Guardian not doing its level-best to suppress in the data.The OP sounds quite immature with his insistence that the rich are all arrogant pricks who deserve to be shot just for having more money than other people. Of course, he could be a Communist who believes that private ownership of anything is theft... That would explain his view.
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#75
(Original post by Rakas21)
Who is OP to tell people like Elon Musk that they shouldn't have had the money to create SpaceX.
Also, this is the UK. Even as a poor question i'm richer than half the world so i don't care about those 85 richest people.
Who is OP to tell people like Elon Musk that they shouldn't have had the money to create SpaceX.
Also, this is the UK. Even as a poor question i'm richer than half the world so i don't care about those 85 richest people.
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#76
(Original post by scrotgrot)
Who is Elon Musk to decide what is the best use for the resources held by the human race?
Who is Elon Musk to decide what is the best use for the resources held by the human race?
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#77
(Original post by scrotgrot)
Who is Elon Musk to decide what is the best use for the resources held by the human race?
Who is Elon Musk to decide what is the best use for the resources held by the human race?
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#78
(Original post by Little Popcorns)
I win
I win
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#79
(Original post by Imperion)
What? We haven't even 1v1 me. I'll rekt you so hard, m9.
What? We haven't even 1v1 me. I'll rekt you so hard, m9.
Won.
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#80
(Original post by Little Popcorns)
I got hoes I got hoooooes in different area codes area codes I got hoes.
Won.
I got hoes I got hoooooes in different area codes area codes I got hoes.
Won.
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