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Is LSE harder to get into compared to Imperial College?
I have received an offer from LSE and Imperial each. As such, the main argument for this thread ceased to exist and this thread must be discontinued.
Conclusion: It is equally difficult to secure a place from LSE and Imperial.
Conclusion: It is equally difficult to secure a place from LSE and Imperial.
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You entered the applications later than most people who end up applying to IC and LSE do, as they tend to apply for oxbridge as well - therefore most likely they rejected you because you got in there late, and many of the offers had already been given.
Although they say they give each application equal weighting regardless of when it was submitted, I doubt it.
As for LSE trying to get compared to IC; well, they're both brilliant colleges, and officially or unofficially neither will ever be 'trying' to get compared with the other, seeing as they specialise in totally different fields.
Depending on what field you want to enter they are going to looked at differently.
With regards to which is easier to get into - well just because LSE havn't replied doesn't mean they're going to reject you. It all depends on their internal system which no outsiders can really judge upon. However, Imperial give interviews which are sometimes academic, whereas I believe LSE go by applications alone? In which case it would seem as though it is "easier" to get into IC as they take more into account than just your application and grades.
In addition to this, less people are opting to do sciences for whatever reason, and hence the decrease in competition means it becomes easier to get into some of the Imperial courses. However, if there is a decrease in top quality scientists on the whole, there will be an increased demand for them eventually, leading to perhaps increased job opportunities for them. Perhaps akin to the population theory in biology, about more rabbits being eaten by foxes means less food for foxes, and so less foxes can survive and so more rabbits repopulate the land etc etc. I'm not a biologist by any stretch of the imagination.
However to me, this does raise the problem that LSE could be missing out on better candidates just because of a menial mistake etc in the personal statement. It is a lot easier to fake an interest in a subject in a well written and edited personal statement than it is to show geniune interest during an on the spot questioning.
Nonetheless - they're both amazing colleges, and I can't see choosing one over the other is going to significantly reduce your chances of a good career/a good university experience, as long as you're a suitable candidate for the job, so go whichever you like best or can get into.
This thread is just going to turn into another insultfest, so I'm off.
Ourkid
P.S - You sure you've posted this question in enough places? Why not try the health and relationships as well?
Although they say they give each application equal weighting regardless of when it was submitted, I doubt it.
As for LSE trying to get compared to IC; well, they're both brilliant colleges, and officially or unofficially neither will ever be 'trying' to get compared with the other, seeing as they specialise in totally different fields.
Depending on what field you want to enter they are going to looked at differently.
With regards to which is easier to get into - well just because LSE havn't replied doesn't mean they're going to reject you. It all depends on their internal system which no outsiders can really judge upon. However, Imperial give interviews which are sometimes academic, whereas I believe LSE go by applications alone? In which case it would seem as though it is "easier" to get into IC as they take more into account than just your application and grades.
In addition to this, less people are opting to do sciences for whatever reason, and hence the decrease in competition means it becomes easier to get into some of the Imperial courses. However, if there is a decrease in top quality scientists on the whole, there will be an increased demand for them eventually, leading to perhaps increased job opportunities for them. Perhaps akin to the population theory in biology, about more rabbits being eaten by foxes means less food for foxes, and so less foxes can survive and so more rabbits repopulate the land etc etc. I'm not a biologist by any stretch of the imagination.
However to me, this does raise the problem that LSE could be missing out on better candidates just because of a menial mistake etc in the personal statement. It is a lot easier to fake an interest in a subject in a well written and edited personal statement than it is to show geniune interest during an on the spot questioning.
Nonetheless - they're both amazing colleges, and I can't see choosing one over the other is going to significantly reduce your chances of a good career/a good university experience, as long as you're a suitable candidate for the job, so go whichever you like best or can get into.
This thread is just going to turn into another insultfest, so I'm off.
Ourkid
P.S - You sure you've posted this question in enough places? Why not try the health and relationships as well?
Thanks ourkid for the reply.
No. I submitted my application in November. Ya I think you are right to point out that there is a decrease in demand for science courses so the competition at Imperial side may be cooler. Furthermore, I did all pure sciences subjects at A level, and I did not do Econs - and LSE is about Econs! So I may well be an appealing candidate for Imperial since I do double maths and AEA Maths, but doesn't suit LSE's favor.
Anyone have other insightful comments about why is the situation so?
No. I submitted my application in November. Ya I think you are right to point out that there is a decrease in demand for science courses so the competition at Imperial side may be cooler. Furthermore, I did all pure sciences subjects at A level, and I did not do Econs - and LSE is about Econs! So I may well be an appealing candidate for Imperial since I do double maths and AEA Maths, but doesn't suit LSE's favor.
Anyone have other insightful comments about why is the situation so?
I think the key point here, regardless of WHY they rejected you, is that they are rejections. These decisions more-or-less never change, so concentrate on getting AAA, and move on, unless you intend to reapply to LSE.
You've submitted your application already, so nothing can be changed, so perhaps time to just await the decision for the final course? Que sera sera no?
Ourkid
You've submitted your application already, so nothing can be changed, so perhaps time to just await the decision for the final course? Que sera sera no?
Ourkid
Being an international student, I took the Nov06 exam and have gotten my A level results already. My result, which has been forwarded to the universities, definitely meets any requirement any schools can possibly throw at me -- 3As is not an issue.
Ourkid
Although they say they give each application equal weighting regardless of when it was submitted, I doubt it.QUOTE]
That is untrue, i submitted my application to UCAS in december, didn't apply for Cambridge or Oxford and still got into LSE and they offered me a lower than typical offer, which most people would have thought only applied to the Oxford/Cambridge people.
I also got my Management offer 1 month after getting rejected for Mathematics and Economics, so it can be done.
No. the typical offer for Management at LSE is ABB. It is the standard offer.
I have no problem letting LSE give me an AAA offer, but at least just give me an offer.
I have no problem letting LSE give me an AAA offer, but at least just give me an offer.
spencer11111
Is LSE indeed harder to enter and hence more respected when compared to Imperial?
Well that's wrong to begin with.
spencer11111
No. the typical offer for Management at LSE is ABB. It is the standard offer.
I have no problem letting LSE give me an AAA offer, but at least just give me an offer.
I have no problem letting LSE give me an AAA offer, but at least just give me an offer.
You're totally missing the point.
You don't seem to understand that you can't just go and compare IC and LSE for banking outright, especially when most LSE courses are to do with finance/banking anyway - or at least have a thread of relevance, whereas IC do sciences and engineering mainly.
Also, you're going to LET LSE make you an AAA offer?! Right... Good luck with that.
But seriously, is LSE or Imperial more favourable for entering IB? Graduates from which side has more chances of landing in top notch jobs?
Not sure how many times I need to say this and in how many different threads, but both are excellent colleges, and if you're the right person for the job, the difference should be negligble.
Because of the relevant nature of LSE courses, LSE are viewed as being one of the best for banking, but if you're unsuitable for the job, you won't get in full stop, regardless of where you're from.
However, because of the analytical, quantitative skills most of the IC courses give you, not to mention links with the top banks, they are also considered a top university for banking.
Copied from the other thread: 'If you are seriously worried THAT badly over an offer you havn't recieved yet, then perhaps phone up an IB and see what they think. From past experience, they're only going to tell you what I've just said more or less, except that they 'take on graduates from all degrees, and all universities. You have an equal chance from whereever you go as we take the application as a whole' - from ML.'
As for which ones better for banking - well for you IC is, as you havn't got an offer from LSE yet. If they rejected you because of apparentl lack of dedication to one course, then perhaps another rejection is on the cards? In which case this whole thread has no point, as well as being retarded.
Ourkid
Actually this trend is only relevant because I am still pending for LSE's reply for the actuarial science course. If LSE gives me an offer eventually, then this trend will be meaningless - I would have received one offer from each LSE and Imperial and will go to show that both are equally competitively.
As for entering into banking jobs Ourkid cannot be more right to point out that since LSE has more students doing finance related courses it naturally follows that they send more students to the banking sector. It doesn't mean that Imperial students are disadvantaged just that they are a science orientated and are not primarily trained to enter banking and finance as LSE people are, ie, less people are trying for IB jobs at the Imperial side and naturally fewer people enter IB related area.
As for entering into banking jobs Ourkid cannot be more right to point out that since LSE has more students doing finance related courses it naturally follows that they send more students to the banking sector. It doesn't mean that Imperial students are disadvantaged just that they are a science orientated and are not primarily trained to enter banking and finance as LSE people are, ie, less people are trying for IB jobs at the Imperial side and naturally fewer people enter IB related area.
Ourkid
'take on graduates from all degrees, and all universities. You have an equal chance from whereever you go as we take the application as a whole' - from ML.'
Ourkid
Ourkid
The point that the IBs will take in graduates reading any degrees at any university is evidently a fallacious one.
spencer11111
Actually this trend is only relevant because I am still pending for LSE's reply for the actuarial science course. If LSE give me an offer eventually, then this trend will be meaningless - I would have received one offer from each LSE and Imperial and will go to show that both are equally competitively.
As for entering into banking jobs Ourkid cannot be more right to point out that since LSE has more students doing finance related courses it naturally follows that they send more students to the banking sector. It doesn't mean that Imperial students are disadvantaged just that they are a science orientated and are not primarily trained to enter banking and finance as LSE people are, ie, less people are trying for IB jobs at the Imperial side and naturally fewer people enter IB related area.
As for entering into banking jobs Ourkid cannot be more right to point out that since LSE has more students doing finance related courses it naturally follows that they send more students to the banking sector. It doesn't mean that Imperial students are disadvantaged just that they are a science orientated and are not primarily trained to enter banking and finance as LSE people are, ie, less people are trying for IB jobs at the Imperial side and naturally fewer people enter IB related area.
Well half your choices are at LSE, so from a mathematical point of view, you have a better chance of getting a place at LSE, therefore they're not equally competitive just because you get one offer each.
Also, as I said science is generally on the decline (albeit a decline which would have a gradient tending towards 0 probably), and hence in reality and mathematically they are both not equally competitive.
I thought you were confused about Imperials suitability for Banking jobs, so where did the self advice come from?
The point that the IBs will take in graduates reading any degrees at any university is evidently a fallacious one.
Precisely what I was saying, only they will say this in addition to saying that they have main target universities of oxbridge, LSE, IC, UCL, and warwick (generally).
Just see what the lay of the land is once you get the decision from LSE.
Would you like me to copy and paste this answer into the other 3 threads for you?
Ourkid
Pendulum
Question: What do actuaries use as contraceptives? Answer: Their personality.
What do you mean when you say that actuaries are used as contraceptive. And what is their personality by the way?
spencer11111
What do you mean when you say that actuaries are used as contraceptive. And what is their personality by the way?
Says all that needs to be said about potential LSE students...
MonteCristo
Says all that needs to be said about potential LSE students...
Which is?
spencer11111
Which is?
I rest my case.
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