Sussex Vs. Royal Holloway

royal holloway has a cracking course, a well respected uni of london degree, great research, hogwarts-like founders building, a £100m investment for new housing and it is a stones throw from london inner city.

you've been given a good, achievable offer [same as me].

what's the fuss? blatantly rhul.

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mousey

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My friend at RHUL doesn't often go to London. They tend to go clubbing in Surrey - places like Kingston (Oceana) Windsor (Liquid), sometimes even go to Guildford. But she knows the area really well because we're from SUrrey anyway. I've been to visit my friends in Brighton and i enjoyed the nightlife there, much mroe accessible - and the beach is fun too. You will find all kinds of people at uni i wouldn't worry too much about that. O the good thing bout RHUL is that their union is really active and there's lots going on there. It's not like it's boring university with nothing to do. xx

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etherised

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God, do they really go to Oceana? I grew up in Kingston - it's not a place I would recommend for nightlife! Mostly owing to the high chances of getting caught up in a bottle-fight.

Both places have a great reputation for research, though that's kind of irrelevant to you. I do think that Royal Holloway is by no means the place to go if you want to have really good access to London. I'm sure it has lots of other great things going for it, but that's not the reason to pick it - it's just not that close. But you should visit both and see which grabs you. I'm sure you will find party people and quiet people at both. Choose the course you like, too - you'll be stuck with it for 3 years!

My choice would be Sussex - but mostly cos I think it would be nicer to live in a proper town than to be in the suburbs. But then, I come from the suburbs, so naturally I resent them....

Reply 4

sparklenight

I'm planning on going to Sussex (if I get rejected from King's - still not heard) and I'm not really a party person but I'm still interesting(!) so you can meet me if you like...! I mean, there will be plenty of different types of people anywhere you go; not everyone likes clubbing.

Reply 5

Victoria999

I've lived in Brighton all my life and I think its an amazing city. Its so diverse, so it can be what you want it to be. Theres tons of nightlife, obviously, but its also a really chilled, calm place. You'll meet every different type of person, it's not like everyone who lives here wants to party 24/7. Also, the city is surrounded by countryside, so theres loads of cute villages to visit and counrty pubs to spend hours in. I have some friends who go to Sussex uni who are quite reserved, more into the 'work' side of uni, rather than the partying side, and they really praise it. From the other people I have met who go there, i'd say they all seem intelligent, thoughtful people. It's a good uni, with quite high entry requirements, so many students are in the same mind-fame as you. Brighton uni is more the 'party' uni. I don't know anything about Royal Holloway, but i'd just thought i'd give you the perspective of someone who lives in Brighton. Hope it helps.

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Katie***

I have also lived in Brighton all my life, plus I got an offer from Royal Holloway last year and attended the open day and an interview there, I would say go to Sussex!!
Sussex is a really up and coming uni, and Brighton is amazing. RHUL is (in my opinion) in such a boring area. There is nothing in Egham, and it isn't all that close to central London. In Brighton there is so much to do, and it is generally cheaper than London prices. I was not impressed by the 'Hogwarts like' Founders Building at RHUL, yes it's a nice building but its the only nice building there!! the rest are portacabin type huts from what I saw, a bit of a concrete jungle. Also the campus is like a maze.
I'd say go to Sussex.

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Go to Sussex if you want a B grade English Lit University. If you want to attend a University of London College, with a highly respected reputation for English and a high research rating, go to RHUL.

If you want tacky seaside resorts - go to Brighton. If you want rolling hills, Hogwarts buildings, a recent host of brand new en-suite accomodation blocks and a £100m investment policy - go to RHUL.

If you want average teaching - go to Sussex. If you want academic titans, Poet Laureates and the whole lot - go to RHUL.

If you want to be near medium sized cities - go to Sussex. If you want the best of both worlds [a beautiful campus in London] that is somewhat close [45mins-1hr] to the centre of London with all the attractions of a capital city - go to RHUL.

If you want to come out of your three years with a world recognised University of London degree - go to RHUL. If you want a Uni of Sussex degree - you know where.

If you want to option of studying at some great Unis in America - go to RHUL.

I think you get the idea. But, of course, the choice is upto you.

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susie_1251

prufrock

Go to Sussex if you want a B grade English Lit University. If you want to attend a University of London College, with a highly respected reputation for English and a high research rating, go to RHUL.

If you want tacky seaside resorts - go to Brighton. If you want rolling hills, Hogwarts buildings, a recent host of brand new en-suite accomodation blocks and a £100m investment policy - go to RHUL.

If you want average teaching - go to Sussex. If you want academic titans, Poet Laureates and the whole lot - go to RHUL.

If you want to be near medium sized cities - go to Sussex. If you want the best of both worlds [a beautiful campus in London] that is somewhat close [45mins-1hr] to the centre of London with all the attractions of a capital city - go to RHUL.

If you want to come out of your three years with a world recognised University of London degree - go to RHUL. If you want a Uni of Sussex degree - you know where.

If you want to option of studying at some great Unis in America - go to RHUL.

I think you get the idea. But, of course, the choice is upto you.

Ah, I quite love you... whoever you are. I was trying to make my mind up between Royal Holloway and Birmingham and I was 99% going to put RHUL as my firm but this has helped me decide that final 1% and realized I definetly want to be there. Thankyou!

Reply 9

jesswood88

may i point out that Sussex is just over an hours drive to London. so, really, you get London AND Brighton! plus it isnt long on a train. basically Sussex is the place to be. The campus is gorgeous, you have all the amazing shops/bars/pubs of Brighton and the sea. I don't think you could ask for more. AND Sussex is not a "B" standard university. thats *******s.

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jesswood88

may i point out that Sussex is just over an hours drive to London. so, really, you get London AND Brighton! plus it isnt long on a train. basically Sussex is the place to be. The campus is gorgeous, you have all the amazing shops/bars/pubs of Brighton and the sea. I don't think you could ask for more. AND Sussex is not a "B" standard university. thats *******s.

Yeah -- you're wrong on several levels there.

It takes one and half hours [probably two in traffic] to get to London [say, the British Library - since we're all English students] from Sussex uni. Whereas it takes under an hour to get there [via car] to the British Library from RHUL. And that excludes travel by tube [thus it's probably less than 40mins by tube]. Go on AA route planner if you wish to confirm.

Furthermore - if you wish to cruise over to Paddington from Brighton, it would cost a delicious £30, approximately. Which seems a bit steep for a 'small' amount of travel... Compare this to a couple of pounds a day single on the tube.

Royal Holloway is consistently recognised in the top 20 [even the 15] not only for English, but for Instituitionally too. Moreover, Royal Holloway has been voted to have the highest student satisfaction rating of all the Universities in Great Britain [topping Oxbridge, and of course Sussex]. But hey! Maybe the students who have studied there for years are mistaken, clearly they haven't heard about the bright seaside lights of Brighton. We could bribe them with fish and chips!!! :wink:

So, it conclusion, you can extrapolate the following things from my original and latter post:

Royal Holloway is institutionally and departmentally better than Sussex.

RHUL has a more in depth and fulfilling course, with a wide range of options.

RHUL is an international academic leader in the work of James Joyce [and many other modernist prodigies.]

RHUL is a more respected degree.

RHUL continually rates better than Sussex in University rankings and in student satisfaction polls.

RHUL is in the ideal location of the idyllic and picturesque countryside - a stones throw from London.

RHUL is technically considered within the London borough - thus meaning students have a larger student loan [even though prices are lower than inner-city counterpart universities].

RHUL has a £100m investment plan and brand spanking new accommodation blocks.

RHUL is considered to have the best sports facilities of all the London colleges...

I could go on...

What decision? It's a no-brainer...

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It takes one and half hours [probably two in traffic] to get to London [say, the British Library - since we're all English students] from Sussex uni. Whereas it takes under an hour to get there [via car] to the British Library from RHUL. And that excludes travel by tube [thus it's probably less than 40mins by tube]. Go on AA route planner if you wish to confirm.

Furthermore - if you wish to cruise over to Paddington from Brighton, it would cost a delicious £30, approximately. Which seems a bit steep for a 'small' amount of travel... Compare this to a couple of pounds a day single on the tube.

Lol, the tube? So what "tube" station is RHUL near? You're not from London, are you? :confused:

And according to Thetrainline, Brighton to London = £16 return. Egham to London = ~£6.50 single.

RHUL is technically considered within the London borough

Which "London borough" is Egham technically in?

"Egham is a small town in the Runnymede borough of Surrey in South East England" - Wikipedia

I think you'll find that neither Runnymede nor Surrey is a borough of London...

I really hope the OP does their own research before making their decision.

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more adventurous

Lol, the tube? So what "tube" station is RHUL near? You're not from London, are you? :confused:

And according to Thetrainline, Brighton to London = £16 return. Egham to London = ~£6.50 single.

Aha, yes, so so funny. That definitely warrants a LOL.

Now, with all delirious cackles aside -- the nearest tube station to RHUL is Heathrow T4. This is about a 20mins drive from RHUL campus. As soon as your on the tube -- you'll get there as soon as you can get there.

Which "London borough" is Egham technically in?

"Egham is a small town in the Runnymede borough of Surrey in South East England" - Wikipedia

I think you'll find that neither Runnymede nor Surrey is a borough of London...

Yes, now, if you had actually read the first opening paragraphs on the Wikipedia article, you would have picked up:

'The college's campus is located at Egham, Surrey, just outside the boundary of Greater London.' Just outside of Greater London - considered in the metropolitan area of London - hence why RHUL is apart of the University of London.

I really hope the OP does their own research before making their decision.

Yes - I hope the OP does more than you.

It's always wise to actually know stuff and not appear to know stuff.

Esse Quam Videri is RHUL's motto [To be, not just to appear].

But you wouldn't know anything about that - would you? :wink:

'LOL'

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Aha, yes, so so funny. That definitely warrants a LOL.

Now, with all delirious cackles aside -- the nearest tube station to RHUL is Heathrow T4. This is about a 20mins drive from RHUL campus. As soon as your on the tube -- you'll get there as soon as you can get there.

Yeah, because most students own cars, right?

And for those who do, it costs only £29.40 to park at Heathrow for 6-9 hours. So, no dent in the student budget there.

Once you get to Heathrow tube station, you're looking at about an hour to get into central London, depending on where you want to go, obviously. I should know, I do that journey several times a year.

'The college's campus is located at Egham, Surrey, just outside the boundary of Greater London.' Just outside of Greater London - considered in the metropolitan area of London - hence why RHUL is apart of the University of London.

Yes, just outside London. Egham is not in a London borough and does not have a London postcode. Because it. is. not. in. London. It is in Surrey. Anyone will tell you that Surrey is outside of London.

You specifically said that Egham is in a London borough. So which borough is it in? You said it.

The "University of London" also has institutes in France and Scotland. Next you'll be telling me that France and Scotland are only a tube ride away from central London... Take a hint: "University of London" does not mean in London.

RHUL is not in London. Stop deluding yourself.

It's always wise to actually know stuff and not appear to know stuff.

Maybe you should listen to your own words of wisdom, then? I'd be surprised if you've ever actually been in London, to be honest, judging by your terrible ignorance of it.

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more adventurous

Yeah, because most students own cars, right?

Do you have a statistic to back that up?

Of course not -- Esse Quam Videri.

And for those who do, it costs only £29.40 to park at Heathrow for 6-9 hours. So, no dent in the student budget there.

There are other modes of transportation -- have you considered this? Bus perhaps - which will total a few pounds in fare.

I should know, I do that journey several times a year.

That's nice.

Yes, just outside London... and does not have a London postcode. Because it. is. not. in. London. It is in Surrey. Anyone will tell you that Surrey is outside of London.

a. When did I mention about post codes?

b. I have said RHUL is in the METROPOLITAN district of London - on the commuter belt - and when I used the word 'borough' it was a mistake. For this egregious error, I extend my deepest apology.

c. Yes. It is in Surrey.

The "University of London" also has institutes in France and Scotland.

One in Paris and one in Millport - correct. [Excl. SOAS].

Next you'll be telling me that France and Scotland are only a tube ride away from central London...

Wow - I see another 'LOL' is needed here...

Take a hint: "University of London" does not mean in London.

Oops, it seems as if you've misunderstood what the word 'hint' means:

an indirect suggestion

'"University of London" does not mean in London' seems very direct to me.

RHUL is not in London. Stop deluding yourself.

Then why do you receive a student loan for London students? If the government considers RHUL to be in the wider metro district of London - that's good enough for me.

But hey, maybe you're right.

I'd be surprised if you've ever actually been in London, to be honest, judging by your terrible ignorance of it.

Quite an assumption I think you'd agree - based on a lack of empirical evidence and common fact.

But then again, you relish unfounded statements - so I'm not surprised in the slightest.

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Do you have a statistic to back that up?

Of course not -- Esse Quam Videri.

Yes. Just over a fifth of students own cars.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/5165494.stm

Again, do you think that maybe you should listen to your own words of wisdom?

There are other modes of transportation -- have you considered this? Bus perhaps - which will total a few pounds in fare.

46 minutes from Egham to Heathrow on bus.
An hour or so to central London on tube.

So, you're looking at almost two hours if you choose to go by tube. What happened to the "probably less than 40mins by tube" you mentioned?

Esse Quam Videri

b. I have said RHUL is in the METROPOLITAN district of London - on the commuter belt - and when I used the word 'borough' it was a mistake. For this egregious error, I extend my deepest apology.

You said that Egham is in a London borough. After I corrected you, you still continued your argument and tried to make it look like I was wrong. Therefore, I assumed that you were standing by your original argument. How foolish of me, clearly. If you made a mistake, then why didn't you just admit it in the first place, instead of trying to make it look like I was somehow wrong? :rolleyes:

I don't think you're nearly ready for university if you haven't outgrown such childish tactics.

Oops, it seems as if you've misunderstood what the word 'hint' means:

an indirect suggestion

'"University of London" does not mean in London' seems very direct to me.

Resorting to pedantry, I see, instead of conceding the point that being part of the University of London does not mean an institution is in London. Very clever, top marks to you.

Then why do you receive a student loan for London students? If the government considers RHUL to be in the wider metro district of London - that's good enough for me.

But hey, maybe you're right.

FFS, it is in the wider metro district of London, it is not IN LONDON, which is what you originally said. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

But then again, you relish unfounded statements - so I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Funnily enough, I have backed up - or could back up - every single statement I've made. You've not done the same for any of yours. Egham 40 minutes by tube to Central London? Egham a borough of London? Brighton £30 to London? All unfounded statements. All wrong.

Pathetic.

prufrock

Moreover, Royal Holloway has been voted to have the highest student satisfaction rating of all the Universities in Great Britain [topping Oxbridge, and of course Sussex]. But hey! Maybe the students who have studied there for years are mistaken, clearly they haven't heard about the bright seaside lights of Brighton. We could bribe them with fish and chips!!! :wink:

Source please?

http://education.guardian.co.uk/students/tables/0,,1574395,00.html

Looks like you're wrong. Again. Could this be another one of your unfounded statements? Again.

Can I ask why you've been flat-out lying to the OP, on several different points, in order to convince her to go to RHUL? Are you on commission?

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And having had a look at RHUL's course structure, it looks boring as ****. But, it looks like it'd be great for the type of person who needs to be told what to study. Glad I didn't go there.

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more adventurous

Therefore, I assumed that you were standing by your original argument. How foolish of me, clearly.

Of course you assumed, you've done little else, and will probably continue to do so.

You assume because you have little else to say that is of significance.

Throughout the entire debate, in every post, you have clutched onto my misuse of the word 'borough', even after two supplementary posts [one indirectly correcting it to the metro area - one directly correcting, since you were unable to realise this]. This is childish.

Resorting to pedantry, I see, instead of conceding the point that being part of the University of London does not mean an institution is in London.

Incorrect on two levels:

a. You have mistaken pedantry for correct use of words. It seems from your pretentious comments, you have a degree of some sort - yet you make such bizarre mistakes not only specifically with words - but with wider thematic issues of the debate.

b. I infact accepted that institutions did not have to be within London - specifically noting down the two institutions which acted as examples. Yet even the most blatant and specific notices are lost on your abysmal reading and perception skills. You continue to prate and waffle nevertheless.

Funnily enough, I have backed up - or could back up - every single statement I've made ... All wrong.

I have use Virgin Trains along with AA route planner to approximate travel distances. Now, you claim to have supported every single statement you've made - yet you haven't supported your 'All wrong' statement. You claim my approximations of travel distances are wrong without supporting evidence that you so vehemently state you always do.

Thus, you are a liar. I agree with you - this is 'pathetic'.

And having had a look at RHUL's course structure, it looks boring as ****

Wow - swearing and a character stupid statement - it looks as if you can't control your stupidity any longer! Huh?

No, RHUL's course is not boring - it is however, without any optional modules on trashy novels which I would reckon interest you so much.

Glad I didn't go there.

No, I am glad too: we all need to see what is the product of a second-rate University. You epitomise this, and for this, we thank you. Now hang up your little certificate and feel the pride surge forth. :wink:

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My god, would you give it up already? You were wrong. About a lot of things. But it's okay. God forgives you. I forgive you. It's so obvious what you're doing. Trying to pretend that you're the one in the right isn't making you look smart, clever, attractive, or any of the above. But it's okay. You can give up already. You really aren't getting anywhere with your litte tirade.

And I turned down an offer from RHUL for a much better and world renowned university, FYI.

I had a look at some of your other posts... it's interesting how you were rejected from all the more prestigious universities that you applied to, settled for Royal Holloway (despite, apparently, being concerned about its reputation), and are now desperately trying to convince yourself that you made the right choice. You're not fooling anybody. Your posts in this thread have been for your own benefit, not for the OP or anyone else. Why else would someone big up a particular university to no end, utterly downgrade a similar university, and viciously attack anyone who challenges their misinformation? Anybody looking at this from an objective viewpoint can see that RHUL and Sussex are fairly similar universities both with good and bad points. But you, however, clearly have an ulterior motive. And frankly, you're coming off as a complete nutter in this thread.

Making up stories about student satisfaction reports that don't exist and whatnot is not going to erase the pain of your rejections. I'm sorry.

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