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VM349 - Calais Motion, TSR Conservative and Unionist Party


Calais Motion

This House believes that the current situation in Calais is unacceptable and also applauds the decision of the previous government (canon) to take refugees from official UN camps in Syria if we must take any at all (though it is the position of the TSR Conservative and Unionist Party that we should not).

Recent analysis suggests that less than a fifth of migrants to Europe originate from Syria highlighting the fact that many of those entering Europe are economic migrants from the likes of Nigeria and Pakistan. Because of this, it is the position of the TSR Conservative and Unionist Party that we should no longer permit these economic migrants to arrive at Calais.

The TSR Conservative and Unionist Party proposes that the first act of the next MHoC government be to begin a joint operation with the French to police the French borders with Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland and Italy. Those suspected of being non-EU migrants will be immediately denied entry. If they are refugees then international law is clear that they are seek refuge in the first safe country, if they are economic migrants then their country of entry should immediately deport them or process their application for immigration.

Regarding the migrants currently in Calais this motion also proposes that the next MHoC government deport any economic migrants. Any refugees can be distributed via the EU quota programme of which the UK, Ireland and Denmark are currently exempt.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...es-of-staying/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34432386
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Would this even be legal without France withdrawing from the Schengen agreement? Let's also not pretend that Syria is the only dangerous and unstable country that these people have fled from.
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Would this even be legal without France withdrawing from the Schengen agreement? Let's also not pretend that Syria is the only dangerous and unstable country that these people have fled from.
Grey area. We can exploit rules relating to suspected criminals.
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Having re-read paragraph 3, can you please switch me to a no?
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Having re-read paragraph 3, can you please switch me to a no?
May I ask your issue?
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Mr Speaker, I've had a change of heart. Please change my vote to 'No'.
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May I ask your issue?
It's not feasible to ask what is a small selection of (relatively) poorer countries on the Mediterranean to take all of the refugges. Northern Europe needs to do its bit too.

It's a shame really because I agree with the majority of the motion.
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It's not feasible to ask what is a small selection of (relatively) poorer countries on the Mediterranean to take all of the refugges. Northern Europe needs to do its bit too.

It's a shame really because I agree with the majority of the motion.
While that would be the result of deporting the alternative that this motion proposed is that the likes of Italy, Germany, Belgium register them as per international law.

This motion does not stop these people coming to Europe (we've had prior motions for that), this motion simply prevents them piling up in Calais by protecting France.
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While that would be the result of deporting the alternative that this motion proposed is that the likes of Italy, Germany, Belgium register them as per international law.

This motion does not stop these people coming to Europe (we've had prior motions for that), this motion simply prevents them piling up in Calais by protecting France.
Are the French not able to protect themselves?
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Are the French not able to protect themselves?
They seem not to want people settling in France too much but they don't care if they pile up in Calais.
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They seem not to want people settling in France too much but they don't care if they pile up in Calais.
It still feels like a motion on a new immigration policy for France.
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It still feels like a motion on a new immigration policy for France.
A combined effort and this motion only requests that the next government ask the French.
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Woah , its sort of a draw ( so do the ayes have it or Noes ?
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Woah , its sort of a draw ( so do the ayes have it or Noes ?
When its a draw 'No' wins. You need a majority to pass something.
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Woah , its sort of a draw ( so do the ayes have it or Noes ?
The Noes now that I've voted that way
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Ali1302 Please vote on this motion when you have joined the MP user-group.
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And please vote to reduce the number of asylum seekers entering France and by extension, Calais. By voting Aye.
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Birchington Change me to a nay please?
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Birchington Change me to a nay please?
May I ask why?
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Having re-read paragraph 3, can you please switch me to a no?
I have changed your vote from Abstain to No.
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