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David Graber has hit the news claiming that the efficiency brought about through technology advancing should've meant that we're now working 15 hour weeks. But instead capitalism has created 'bull**** jobs' to fill the would-be labour gap.

What do you think of the article? Are we missing out on a utopia of leisure time?
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The link you've given is being transformed by the nanny filter and stops it working. This link - tinyurl.com/od4oldf - goes to the same web page.

Before the industrial revolution we generally produced enough food for all and had lots of recreation.

The development of mechanisation increased productivity. The development of the steam engine increased productivity. The development of the canals and railways increased efficiency. The development of the internal combustion engine and oil-based fuels increased productivity. The development of antibiotics increased productivity. The development of artificial fertiliser increased productivity. The development of precision engineering increased productivity. The development of automation increased efficiency and productivity. The development of large volume ore extraction and refinement increased productivity. The development of the computer increased productivity. The development of mass transit increased efficiency.

Stone age people, if they made it to teenage, could expect to live to 70. People living in jungles without modern conveniences typically 'work' just 3-4 hours per day and also can expect to live to 70.

When I started work the working day for office work was 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. (When the Hollywood movie "9 to 5" came out I don't think anybody here was doing that few hours.) Since then the working hours have supposedly reduced but laptops, mobile phones and tablets now ensure many people are 'in work' almost all day, from first thing to bed time. That's especially true in IT and the consultancies where people are expected to get work done between the end of the day and the start.

God only knows where all that productivity is going, especially since there's only a handful of people growing food. We should only need to be working one day a week.

God only knows why we haven't had a 'living wage' since the 1950s.

If the working week could be reduced down to 9 to 5 with no more unpaid overtime, perhaps unemployment would go away.
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Well I read the whole article and felt at first that he was clutching at straws however he finally got to the point in the last paragraph that I agree with for the most part.

The system has evolved to function for business which has led to an evolution of certain job roles which the world doesn't need per se. Its not some conspiracy to keep people employed, its simply just an especially self serving system using the labour market to feed itself.
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67% of local Government employees are women, alongside 81% of NHS employees (yet, only 7% of women employed are doctors or dentists, so the rest simply push paper from one corridor to the next) - these are ridiculously gender-centric distributions which no-one ever talks about.

Women have an overwhelming predisposition to work in the public sector - hence why they vote left; statism = more jobs! - which, with the exception of the treasury and any department orientated around national security or the protection of private property, we could just do away with in its entirety and be no worse off.

You'll never find the majority of women doing jobs which prop up civilisation: laying brick, working in the sewers, power line installation, carpentry, road working, etc. Nah, they want to save a puppy, help someone get over some crisis or another, or market lingerie.

According to FoI requests, women contribute £68.2 billion less in income tax than men every year. Female pensioners also take £13.7 billion more in the form of benefits than men. Want to save the state? Perhaps we could stop creating jobs for women, and maybe send out an urgent public broadcast: women, stop voting to expand the size of the state for your own self-serving purposes.
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(Original post by Professor Oak)
David Graber has hit the news claiming that the efficiency brought about through technology advancing should've meant that we're now working 15 hour days. But instead capitalism has created 'bull**** jobs' to fill the would-be labour gap.

What do you think of the article? Are we missing out on a utopia of leisure time?
Why would we have more leisure time by working 15 hour days instead of 8 hour days? That's an extra 7 hours a day working.
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The LSE guy talks sense... obviously not a proper economist.
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(Original post by TheCitizenAct)
67% of local Government employees are women, alongside 81% of NHS employees (yet, only 7% of women employed are doctors or dentists, so the rest simply push paper from one corridor to the next) - these are ridiculously gender-centric distributions which no-one ever talks about.

Women have an overwhelming predisposition to work in the public sector - hence why they vote left; statism = more jobs! - which, with the exception of the treasury and any department orientated around national security or the protection of private property, we could just do away with in its entirety and be no worse off.

You'll never find the majority of women doing jobs which prop up civilisation: laying brick, working in the sewers, power line installation, carpentry, road working, etc. Nah, they want to save a puppy, help someone get over some crisis or another, or market lingerie.

According to FoI requests, women contribute £68.2 billion less in income tax than men every year. Female pensioners also take £13.7 billion more in the form of benefits than men. Want to save the state? Perhaps we could stop creating jobs for women, and maybe send out an urgent public broadcast: women, stop voting to expand the size of the state for your own self-serving purposes.
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(Original post by snowman77)
Why would we have more leisure time by working 15 hour days instead of 8 hour days? That's an extra 7 hours a day working.
Oops I meant weeks -typo
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Zuckerberg added at least 5 hours to the working week.
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Management consultants.

"Policy wonks" especially "special advisers".

Lobbying consultancies.
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Management consultants.

"Policy wonks" especially "special advisers".

Lobbying consultancies.
Invesco is expanding its Lean Center of Excellence team (COE) with Lean Facilitators and this position will be based in the Henley UK office. The Lean Facilitator will play a key leadership role in the definition, development, and implementation of Lean processes and methodologies for teams across the organization. The goal will be to drive out waste within our current processes while delivering more value more quickly to Invesco and our clients.

This position will coach clients on Lean processes and work directly with a number of senior leaders to help them achieve their targets. A focus will be placed on ensuring global adoption and traction of Lean, delivering results and long term sustainability. Facilitators will be responsible for Lean Rapid Improvement Events (RIE’s) including preparing materials, coordination with management and participants as well as post-event implementation of action plans to achieve results.

The Facilitator will also serve as a key champion for MDI (Managing for Daily Improvement) activities. The person will be responsible for partnering with teams to help them in their Lean and MDI transformation, provide MDI training and assist on daily calls for guidance. The role is responsible for multiple initiatives such as consistent implementation of Lean practices through event facilitation, workshops, training, process documentation and analysis. Will coordinate with multiple Lean Process Owners to help them and their teams explore Lean opportunities, understand their current state and implement a future state vision to achieve improvements in quality, operations, productivity and cost.
What chance that this is a suicide mission?
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