Why are conservatives so selfish and heartless?

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Everyone in my family is a life long labour supporter along with the vast majority of my street and school. All of us are still infuriated over the decision to not elect Ed Miliband who would have been a far better PM than the current disaster who had sex with a pig. We all agree that Jeremy Corbyn is a breath of fresh air and although I would have preferred blair to lead the party again, in my view Corbyn is the only viable alternative to the bullingdon club posh boys.

I notice many people vote tory based on myths like people on benefits causing the economic crash when in reality in was thatcherism. A few tories seem to be misguided and brain washed by the right wing press. However the large majority seem to be obsessed with class warfare and protecting their own middle class wealth. Well I'll inform you of this, wealth does not mean you have to be greedy. My parents make a bucketload of money far more than most tory voters yet they have been life long labour voters. They instilled me with core left wing principles from a young age as their parents did to them. I was taught to show empathy for those below my station, not cut their tax credits which they NEED to survive on.

If I can sacrifice some personal benefits from supporting labour so that the impoverished lower classes don't starve to death then so can any tory voter.
I am disgusted by the greed of people in this country. Need I remind you the lesson I was taught by my GCSE english literature teacher when studying an inspector calls? If you don't show empathy for those below your station they will rise up against you and take back the wealth that is rightfully theirs through blood and iron.

I am furious that this country voted tory. Just remember this, when the revolution comes it won't be my property that gets damaged or stolen.

To all tory voters. Give me ONE good reason to vote tory when they act like modern day nazi's in their behaviour towards the poor and disabled.
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Everyone in my family is a life long labour supporter along with the vast majority of my street and school. All of us are still infuriated over the decision to not elect Ed Miliband who would have been a far better PM than the current disaster who had sex with a pig. We all agree that Jeremy Corbyn is a breath of fresh air and although I would have preferred blair to lead the party again, in my view Corbyn is the only viable alternative to the bullingdon club posh boys.

I notice many people vote tory based on myths like people on benefits causing the economic crash when in reality in was thatcherism. A few tories seem to be misguided and brain washed by the right wing press. However the large majority seem to be obsessed with class warfare and protecting their own middle class wealth. Well I'll inform you of this, wealth does not mean you have to be greedy. My parents make a bucketload of money far more than most tory voters yet they have been life long labour voters. They instilled me with core left wing principles from a young age as their parents did to them. I was taught to show empathy for those below my station, not cut their tax credits which they NEED to survive on.

If I can sacrifice some personal benefits from supporting labour so that the impoverished lower classes don't starve to death then so can any tory voter.
I am disgusted by the greed of people in this country. Need I remind you the lesson I was taught by my GCSE english literature teacher when studying an inspector calls? If you don't show empathy for those below your station they will rise up against you and take back the wealth that is rightfully theirs through blood and iron.

I am furious that this country voted tory. Just remember this, when the revolution comes it won't be my property that gets damaged or stolen.

To all tory voters. Give me ONE good reason to vote tory when they act like modern day nazi's in their behaviour towards the poor and disabled.
Out of interest, which council ward do you live in?
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Self-interest and little sense of social responsibility, I think. Some people simply do not feel responsible for the welfare of others. In order to justify this, they convince themselves (and others) that the poor are poor because of laziness or irresponsibility, so they don't feel guilty about it. I see this an awful lot with people who vote or work against their conscience - they're willing to tell themselves lies in order to legitimise their self-interest. I don't think it's that Conservative voters are necessarily bad people, I know very friendly and nice people who vote Conservative - they just don't seem to feel a sense of responsibility beyond their family and friends (or, as you point out, they don't realise or care that an awful lot of Conservative campaigning is built on lies).
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If I can sacrifice some personal benefits from supporting labour so that the impoverished lower classes don't starve to death then so can any tory voter.
I am disgusted by the greed of people in this country. Need I remind you the lesson I was taught by my GCSE english literature teacher when studying an inspector calls? If you don't show empathy for those below your station they will rise up against you and take back the wealth that is rightfully theirs through blood and iron.

I am furious that this country voted tory. Just remember this, when the revolution comes it won't be my property that gets damaged or stolen.

To all tory voters. Give me ONE good reason to vote tory when they act like modern day nazi's in their behaviour towards the poor and disabled.
Just because you can or want doesn't warrant you to tell others they should lmao

That is rightfully theirs? That they own? LOL :rofl: Wow, man :indiff:
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Its on the tin.
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To all tory voters. Give me ONE good reason to vote tory when they act like modern day nazi's in their behaviour towards the poor and disabled.
s'alright we can manage without your vote

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Like asking why does a Lion kill :dontknow:
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they don't give a f*** about anyone, but themselves
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Vote UKIP.
How is this a solution?
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I would have preferred blair to lead the party again
Tony Bliar stared an illegal war and most of the Northern hemisphere is still paying for the consequences of that war.

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My parents make a bucketload of money far more than most tory voters yet they have been life long labour voters.
I smell a troll, fol-de-rol.

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Everyone is selfish. Almost everything anyone does, for good or ill, can be traced back to the self. Empathy only works because you can, to an extent, "feel" what someone else is going through. If they are suffering, then it becomes, to a lesser extent, your suffering; in order to try and right this feeling you must help that person. The benefits are there, whereas there are selfish acts that are obviously detrimental to others, but in a way it's still oriented towards the self. So I guess I'm being really cynical/nihilistic and saying that empathy is not exactly something noble; the degree of it is primarily due to nature and nurture, and anyone who has more of it will seem to exude goodness and selflessness and anyone who has less of it will exhibit the opposite, but I think all these people are acting to satisfy their notion of self.

However I can't let the people you describe (obviously your generalisation only applies to some conservatives) get off too easily...there is a glaring lack of logic, as well as empathy, in the belief that the rich deserve their wealth, and the poor deserve their poverty. The "anyone can be rich with hard work" argument is completely fallacious; it ignores the factor of making the right decisions at the right time which has a great deal to do with luck; it ignores the factor of greater opportunities being available to some people. And there is no real argument that inherited wealth is deserved, of course. The concern over benefit fraud is apparently idiotic given the statistical insignificance relative to, for instance, tax evasion, and probably arises as the wealthy and greedy would much rather chastise those they know little about than the portion of their brethren that actually cause the problems at hand.
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Everyone in my family is a life long labour supporter along with the vast majority of my street and school. All of us are still infuriated over the decision to not elect Ed Miliband who would have been a far better PM than the current disaster who had sex with a pig. We all agree that Jeremy Corbyn is a breath of fresh air and although I would have preferred blair to lead the party again, in my view Corbyn is the only viable alternative to the bullingdon club posh boys.

I notice many people vote tory based on myths like people on benefits causing the economic crash when in reality in was thatcherism. A few tories seem to be misguided and brain washed by the right wing press. However the large majority seem to be obsessed with class warfare and protecting their own middle class wealth. Well I'll inform you of this, wealth does not mean you have to be greedy. My parents make a bucketload of money far more than most tory voters yet they have been life long labour voters. They instilled me with core left wing principles from a young age as their parents did to them. I was taught to show empathy for those below my station, not cut their tax credits which they NEED to survive on.

If I can sacrifice some personal benefits from supporting labour so that the impoverished lower classes don't starve to death then so can any tory voter.
I am disgusted by the greed of people in this country. Need I remind you the lesson I was taught by my GCSE english literature teacher when studying an inspector calls? If you don't show empathy for those below your station they will rise up against you and take back the wealth that is rightfully theirs through blood and iron.

I am furious that this country voted tory. Just remember this, when the revolution comes it won't be my property that gets damaged or stolen.

To all tory voters. Give me ONE good reason to vote tory when they act like modern day nazi's in their behaviour towards the poor and disabled.
I could probably give you several good reasons why people voted for the Tories:

1.They know that the economic crash was caused by unregulated banks and government overspending, and not myths on people on benefits causing the economic crash (only a deluded lefty would dream up such a myth which he thinks a Tory would believe)
2. Thatcherism allowed workers to finally reap the rewards of their labour, which Labour had so often promised but failed to provide. The house they rented could now be owned by them, providing financial and emotional security. They could now own part of the company they worked for (in fact, 99% of British Gas workers took up the offer to buy shares when it was privatised). Socialism declared that the state was for the people, but Thatcherism actually allowed the state to be owned by the people.
3. They don't like being demeaned and insulted by people who disagree with them.
4. Contrary to what you said, they aren't obsessed with class warfare and are instead more keen on the growth of wealth; they look like they don't really care about "those below [their] station" because they don't judge people by their class, and instead believe everyone should take responsibility of their own lives and help others out of compassion and not pity like you do.
5. Tory voters want to earn more money to lead a better life, preferably around the bucketloads which your champagne socialist parents make, that's why they voted for a party which was pro-business and investment.
6. They also believe that too much sacrifice has been made, with the 20% lower, 40% middle, and 45% higher rate tax bands and 8% National Insurance contributions
7. Their education and understanding of the world probably extends beyond what was learnt in school.
8. They don't want incompetent people who juvenilely threaten others with a "revolution" and violence when they don't get what they want to govern them.
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Thatcherism was a success,don't make me laugh she de regulated the banks so they could gamble money like there on a weekend in Vegas. Another tory moron who tries to justify this cruel and callous government.talking of violence you could do with a slap
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Thatcherism was a success,don't make me laugh she de regulated the banks so they could gamble money like there on a weekend in Vegas. Another tory moron who tries to justify this cruel and callous government.talking of violence you could do with a slap
By what metric exactly? Calling her policies unilaterally a failure is obviously wrong. Some of them went well, others were catastrophic be it obliterating our manufacturing and mining base or freeing the economy to drag Britain out of the 3rd rate of nations which it had fallen in to.
This is the problem with political zealots, they seem incapable of looking at the big picture and only being able to view people/policies through a narrow partisan window that is functionally useless for analysis.
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