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Immigrants claim £27 million a year in child benefits for kids not even living in UK watch

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    EU immigrants claim £27 million a year in UK child benefit for their kids who don't even live in the UK. Over the last 5 years Polish immigrants alone have claimed £116 million

    Will David Cameron renegotiate this point in his EU reform? and does he have any chance of success when all 28 nations must agree to treaty change?


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    I would certainly encourage him to do so.

    A lot of people come to this country to fleece the government, and it just needs to stop.
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    I'd hope that he could renegotiate it but, in reality, he's not going to get anything. All the other EU leaders hate his guts and are able to use the threat of suspending the 'renegotiation' to get him to do what they want.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    EU immigrants claim £27 million a year in UK child benefit for their kids who don't even live in the UK. Over the last 5 years Polish immigrants alone have claimed £116 million

    Will David Cameron renegotiate this point in his EU reform? and does he have any chance of success when all 28 nations must agree to treaty change?


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    That is just taking money out of the pot for our own people take it away and give it to our people instead
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    Welfare budget is like £120 billion... in that context £27m really isnt a massive amount.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    EU immigrants claim £27 million a year in UK child benefit for their kids who don't even live in the UK. Over the last 5 years Polish immigrants alone have claimed £116 million

    Will David Cameron renegotiate this point in his EU reform? and does he have any chance of success when all 28 nations must agree to treaty change?


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    Of course he won't succeed. Dithering Dave has been shown up to be the muppet he is over the Calais crisis; he has got the run around by a bunch of Africans with nothing more than a battered inflatable and torn clothes. God help us if this man has to negotiate with politicians like Merkel.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    Of course he won't succeed. Dithering Dave has been shown up to be the muppet he is over the Calais crisis; he has got the run around by a bunch of Africans with nothing more than a battered inflatable and torn clothes. God help us if this man has to negotiate with politicians like Merkel.
    Its Dodgy Dave not dithering
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    Low skilled EU migration is not what we need.
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    Chump change. The time required to fix the issue is worth more than the money being spent on the issue. Well done spreading the propaganda though.
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    (Original post by ZZTop1)
    Its Dodgy Dave not dithering
    No, in this case he is dithering. Maybe he is dithering because he is dodgy though, so maybe.

    So funny how when it comes to reforming welfare for English people he gets right to it, but when it comes to actually doing his job and getting reform that isn't just an easy "your benefits are cut, there you go" but actually dealing with the EU he can't do it.
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    (Original post by ElephantMemory)
    Chump change. The time required to fix the issue is worth more than the money being spent on the issue. Well done spreading the propaganda though.
    It's not about fiscal rectitude. They cloak it in that but really it's xenophobia
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    It's not about fiscal rectitude. They cloak it in that but really it's xenophobia
    Really? Doesn't it seem pretty reasonable to say that child benefit is for children who are resident in the UK?I'd say that pulling the racism card and questioning the motivations of the person on the other side of the table really is a pretty cheap tactic. It's below you.

    I'm a Fabian socialist, and I'm broadly supportive of reasonable rates of immigration. But that doesn't mean that I should therefore support everything that is favourable to immigrants otherwise I'm a racist. There are genuine policy considerations here (I don't think child benefit should be paid if an English couple splits up and the child goes to live with the Mum in America either)
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    (Original post by ElephantMemory)
    Chump change. The time required to fix the issue is worth more than the money being spent on the issue. Well done spreading the propaganda though.
    Calm down. Coming on so strong weakens the argument you are trying to make,

    27 million is not chump change; it's a significant amount of money and in a time of deficit and social deprivation, we should be ensuring we are spending money wisely and effectively.

    The time the change takes would not be so astonishingly expensive that it would cost 27 million worth of civil servants time (and even if it did, that's a one-off expenditure for a permanent saving). The change would probably be done via a statutory instrument; all you'd need to do is enact a statutory instrument that says something like, "Child benefit shall not be paid to a parent where the child has not been resident in the UK for 6 of the last 12 months". Simples.

    The vast majority of people are disinclined to defraud the DWP, so they will report it themselves when they cease to be eligible. So a plausible estimate is that 27 million becomes 7 million, and that 200 million a decade we've freed up can go to reducing the deficit, or be invested in support services for the homeless or for vulnerable drug users, or any one of a number of other services that have been savagely cut by the current government.

    Why is it that those on the far left feel they need to defend any policy that puts money in the pockets of immigrants, even if it is on its face unjustifiable? It's almost as though... it's more about seeming right-on and being able to affect smugness and sanctimony than actually caring about the policy debate
 
 
 
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