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According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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Primary Education with QTS.
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The applicant success rates could include people who applied who would have not met their requirements in any situation so they could look worse then they actually are.
I wouldnt let those rates bother you too much, i got 4 interviews last year all of which had less than 20% applicant success rates so dont worry about stats like that too much
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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It's better to gauge your chances by comparing your achievements with each university's stated admissions criteria rather than looking at the success rates. Looking at those and using them as a measure of your chance of success makes the mistake of assuming that all applicants to those universities are on a level playing field. They're not. Some applicants to each of those universities had no chance of getting in but applied anyway for whatever reason while others might have been average applications -- the success rates don't record these people separately and are hence an unreliable measure of your own chances of getting in.
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
Primary Education with QTS.
Why don't you have one back up with a high success rate? You can still turn it down if you get offered a place but at least you have an option.
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The applicant success rates could include people who applied who would have not met their requirements in any situation so they could look worse then they actually are.
I wouldnt let those rates bother you too much, i got 4 interviews last year all of which had less than 20% applicant success rates so dont worry about stats like that too much
Did you pass the interviews though?

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Why don't you have one back up with a high success rate? You can still turn it down if you get offered a place but at least you have an option.
Well that's what I'm thinking is the most sensible option. My heart, however, wants to apply somewhere I would prefer to study. So Huddersfield is my 5th choice with the 8%, but should I go with Sheffield Hallam with 19% or Northumbria with 32%? Even though I would much rather go to Huddersfield.
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Did you pass the interviews though?Well that's what I'm thinking is the most sensible option. My heart, however, wants to apply somewhere I would prefer to study. So Huddersfield is my 5th choice with the 8%, but should I go with Sheffield Hallam with 19% or Northumbria with 32%? Even though I would much rather go to Huddersfield.
I passed one and got put on a waiting list for the others.
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The applicant success rates could include people who applied who would have not met their requirements in any situation so they could look worse then they actually are.
Yup. A whole bunch of my sisters' friends applied for Primary Education, only one of them actually met the requirements and they all copied each other's personal statement. When idiots like that apply, it is no wonder the overall success rate looks low. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Yup. A whole bunch of my sisters' friends applied for Primary Education, only one of them actually met the requirements and they all copied each other's personal statement. When idiots like that apply, it is no wonder the overall success rate looks low. I wouldn't worry about it.
Tell me more! :puppyeyes: So all but one got rejected pre-interview?
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Tell me more! :puppyeyes: So all but one got rejected pre-interview?
Well none of them are at university so I assume so. I don't know if they had interviews, but I doubt it.
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Well none of them are at university so I assume so. I don't know if they had interviews, but I doubt it.
Oh:sigh:
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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Where on WhatUni did you find these rates? It would be interesting to see

Edit: Nevermind, I found it.
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Oh:sigh:
I can hardly see that as a reason for you to post a sad smiley unless you also don't meet the entry requirements and also copied your ps.
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.
Statistically, and without additional info, that gives you a 49.5% chance of getting onto one of those 4 that you've given the %s for.

HOWEVER, these are often deceptive. Discount people who don't put any effort in and people who don't meet their grades, and your chances will be much, much higher.

Don't worry, you good gurl
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It's pointless getting an offer from somewhere you don't want to go. Put your favourite 5 down, and if it all goes wrong you can apply through UCAS_Extra or Clearing.
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What unis your applying to
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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How do you check the success rate of your uni course?
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(Original post by littlenorthernlass)
According to WhatUni, my final 5 choices have applicant success rates as 8%, 15%, 15%, 24% and one N/A.

I really feel like I'm setting myself up for failure here because they are all so competitive! Do you think it's better to apply for places you really want to go to with low success rates, or to scrap one of them and apply for somewhere with a much higher success rate, just so that you have more chance of getting on any course at all even if it's not where you really want to go?

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I may be completely wrong here (please correct me if I am!) but I believe that applicant success rates are not just the % of people getting offers, but the % of people who applied who end up going. Given that you have 5 choices on UCAS it would seem likely that most would have < 20% success rate due to this.

For example, Warwick has (afaik) an applicant success rate of about 14% while Cambridge has an applicant success rate of 20.8%. This doesn't mean that Warwick is more exclusive or harder to get into than Cambridge, but more that fewer people who get Warwick offers firm and end up going there.

So basically, the applicant success rates shouldn't affect your choice too much. If you want to go to the university on that course and you have the grades, then apply!
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(Original post by Snufkin)
Yup. A whole bunch of my sisters' friends applied for Primary Education, only one of them actually met the requirements and they all copied each other's personal statement. When idiots like that apply, it is no wonder the overall success rate looks low. I wouldn't worry about it.
How did UCAS figure out that your sister's personal statement was the original? Did she submit it first?
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