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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    ..england r sooo dnaegrous from beckham's set plays..will France score from those?? no.
    Err...yes, Zidane and Pires can take brilliant free kicks, as can Henry, and Trezeguet is the perfect predator to score from a set-piece.
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    so who is world class in da france team then???
    Thuram, Gallas, Vieira, Zidane, Henry, Pires

    and Dacourt/Barthez/Rothen/Pedretti have all had strong seasons.
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    lolololooloplololololol slivestre excellent lolololoolololol
    He'd walk into the England team and has been one of Utd's best players this season.
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    gerrard better than vieira...and henry can have his off days....and zidane? ponces around the pitch taking the mick, i dont usually see him do anything towards a goal
    You don't have to argue against me, I just answered your question! I agree that on present form, Gerrard is better than Veira. Henry does have off days, but you can't possibly say he's not world class. And zidane is worls player of the year. ENgland have good players too though. We can do it!
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    (Original post by Baron Huntroyde)
    He'd walk into the England team and has been one of Utd's best players this season.
    no he wouldnt..may be better than king but that is only cos southgate, terry, ferdianand, brown, woodgate are all out
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    no he wouldnt..may be better than king but that is only cos southgate, terry, ferdianand, brown, woodgate are all out
    Brown could (and should) have been in the squad as he's recovered now.

    But no one can deny Silvestre is a top-class defender, that is, after all, the reason why United have relied on him so much (and he hasn't let them down).
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    (Original post by Baron Huntroyde)
    Brown could (and should) have been in the squad as he's recovered now.
    Wasn't it ferguson who told Sven not to pick him?
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    stop arguing with me :-((((( we have 2 be optomisitc if we r that bad...how u can call all france's defenders world class i dont know...if that is the case thent here r loads of em around
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    stop arguing with me :-((((( we have 2 be optomisitc if we r that bad...how u can call all france's defenders world class i dont know...if that is the case thent here r loads of em around
    I'm on your side. France are good, but so are we. We can beat them, come on England!!!!
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    hahah someone gave me neg rep for my opinon about how england will lose
    lolol pathetic!!
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    (Original post by ~Sam~)
    I'm on your side. France are good, but so are we. We can beat them, come on England!!!!
    no u cant

    btw i dont mean to offence any1 whenever i take france side
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    stop arguing with me :-((((( we have 2 be optomisitc if we r that bad...how u can call all france's defenders world class i dont know...if that is the case thent here r loads of em around
    Not all France's defenders are world class, though having the likes of Silvestre/Gallas/Sagnol complimented by the more experienced Lizarazu/Thuram/Desailly could form a much more effective defensive unit than many people think.
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    I wasn't arguing that we are significantly better than France. Everyone knows this is gonna be tough.

    I take issue with your assertation that England are just a mediocre team. The results speak for themselves - look at the Euro qualifying round. England qualified from a hard group with impressive results. Sure England don't always win 8-0 but a 2-1 win is still 3 points.
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    As Alan Hansen said, we have world-class attacking players, but our defence is a bit weak.

    But King and Campbell are strong and do their job well. Ashley Cole needs to get stronger, defence-wise, and Gary Neville is not known as the most ambitious player, as he just does the simple jobs.
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    (Original post by feedtheflamingo)
    I wasn't arguing that we are significantly better than France. Everyone knows this is gonna be tough.

    I take issue with your assertation that England are just a mediocre team. The results speak for themselves - look at the Euro qualifying round. England qualified from a hard group with impressive results. Sure England don't always win 8-0 but a 2-1 win is still 3 points.
    They're a bit better than mediocre, but they're not as good as they have been hyped up to be.
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    (Original post by theaman)
    As Alan Hansen said, we have world-class attacking players, but our defence is a bit weak.

    But King and Campbell are strong and do their job well. Ashley Cole needs to get stronger, defence-wise, and Gary Neville is not known as the most ambitious player, as he just does the simple jobs.
    I still think Carragher should play
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    (Original post by Baron Huntroyde)
    They're a bit better than mediocre, but they're not as good as they have been hyped up to be.
    shut up and stopp being so annoying...we all want england to win...we dont need ur intellectual and brilliant bit of modesty...u probably arent even a football supporter but read about it in da paper and want to make all us confident ones feel worse
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    (Original post by ~Sam~)
    I still think Carragher should play
    Why?

    He has no pace, Henry will just waltz past him, and so will the likes of Vieira and Pires.

    Carragher is a solid defender, but isn;t as quick, and as strong as King, who is also good at moving forward with the ball, as Ferdinand does.
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    (Original post by tammypotato)
    no u cant

    btw i dont mean to offence any1 whenever i take france side
    don't worry tammypostatp
    let the truth get its place
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    (Original post by lgs98jonee)
    shut up and stopp being so annoying...we all want england to win...we dont need ur intellectual and brilliant bit of modesty...u probably arent even a football supporter but read about it in da paper and want to make all us confident ones feel worse
    I do follow football and, as we have seen, I am much more knowledgable about the game than you are.

    I'm just less England-centric.
 
 
 
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