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    Should we lease a city to the Chinese? (old industrial city)

    So currently we are trying to get Chinese investment. How about we lease them a city (old industrial city with high unemployment)

    That way they can open factories again and be closer to their core markets?

    Putting all that labour back to work and off benefits. New investment in infrastructure alongside a GDP boost. The money we receive can help pay off our debt. China also has a lot of expertise in manufacturing, infrastructure building etc.
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    International investment & trade is a bit more complicated than that.

    It is, in fact, not possible to lease a city or urban area - doing so would mean the county council would lose jurisdiction over the area.
    I understand your argument of wanting increased investment in post-industrial cities, but that's the job of the regional and state governments.
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    (Original post by KommunistCake)
    International investment & trade is a bit more complicated than that.

    It is, in fact, not possible to lease a city or urban area - doing so would mean the county council would lose jurisdiction over the area.
    I understand your argument of wanting increased investment in post-industrial cities, but that's the job of the regional and state governments.
    The tories are simply not interested in protecting or investing in our industrial towns. That's the fact of the matter. You can see it in every respect.
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    I swear they have a China town, in every major city around the world?:lol:
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    (Original post by Oh ooo)
    I swear they have a China town, in every major city around the world?:lol:
    Pretty much but don't have direct Chinese government funds
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    From what I've read, the Chinese usually like to build their own infrastructure in the area. They were planning a new town in the US owned entirely by a Chinese company, employing Chinese workers and subject to Chinese laws, if it was approved... but the American public didn't like the idea of leasing land to the Chinese because it gave rise to the spectre of the Chinese being allowed to buy the entire US and govern it.

    They would have essentially manufactured stuff in the US just like they would have in China, and not had to ship it very far. We would have just defined a manufacturing facility and worker's bunkers as Chinese territory like an embassy or something. I'm not sure whether Chinese troops or private security would have been guarding it, though.

    One of the benefits to the US economy from this would have been that the worker's children would be close to Universities where they could go to school, and possibly even spend money within the US easily. Although the town would be totally self-contained just like the ones in China where the workers live and sleep, etc. They were planning three such locations, but the idea was scrapped.

    Perhaps you could work out something similar with the Chinese, if there's any undeveloped land you'd be willing to give them? I can't imagine there's much undeveloped land in Britain, though. The population density is pretty high.
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    Lol.

    They have tonnes of poorly educated people they can use for slave labour, why do they want self-entitled Northerners they will have to pay minimum wage?
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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    Lol.

    They have tonnes of poorly educated people they can use for slave labour, why do they want self-entitled Northerners they will have to pay minimum wage?
    Well we can be flexible on minimum wage laws. They'll be closer to their core markets, save on shipping costs and might be able to enter markets even further afield.
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    (Original post by jeremy1988)
    From what I've read, the Chinese usually like to build their own infrastructure in the area. They were planning a new town in the US owned entirely by a Chinese company, employing Chinese workers and subject to Chinese laws, if it was approved... but the American public didn't like the idea of leasing land to the Chinese because it gave rise to the spectre of the Chinese being allowed to buy the entire US and govern it.

    They would have essentially manufactured stuff in the US just like they would have in China, and not had to ship it very far. We would have just defined a manufacturing facility and worker's bunkers as Chinese territory like an embassy or something. I'm not sure whether Chinese troops or private security would have been guarding it, though.

    One of the benefits to the US economy from this would have been that the worker's children would be close to Universities where they could go to school, and possibly even spend money within the US easily. Although the town would be totally self-contained just like the ones in China where the workers live and sleep, etc. They were planning three such locations, but the idea was scrapped.

    Perhaps you could work out something similar with the Chinese, if there's any undeveloped land you'd be willing to give them? I can't imagine there's much undeveloped land in Britain, though. The population density is pretty high.
    True many trickle down benefits of having Chinese ownership too. A lot of kids in private schools here are Chinese and they buy up a lot of property.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Well we can be flexible on minimum wage laws. They'll be closer to their core markets, save on shipping costs and might be able to enter markets even further afield.
    Real talk.


    Just gotta make sure these chavs can speak English as well as the average Chinese peasant.
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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    Real talk.


    Just gotta make sure these chavs can speak English as well as the average Chinese peasant.
    They can open schools here too.
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    Current Chinese minimum wage rates vary between about 90p an hour and £1.70 an hour, depending on the province.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_China

    I am quite sure that many in the current Tory government would be happy to see a new special economic zone in the UK with those labour rates, run directly from Beijing. It would of course involve a substantial hedge fund involvement by friends of David Cameron and George Osborne, plus a percentage on the side to Tory funds and Goldman Sachs.

    Liverpool would seem the likeliest candidate, although cities like Bristol, Sheffield or Nottingham, regarded by Whitehall as dumping grounds, would also be considered suitable.

    All human rights would be suspended and labour camps opened. As in China, fair trials would be abolished and prisoners denied an independent defence. The sentence in most cases would be death by firing squad. Also, as in China, organs would be removed prior to execution for sale to foreign buyers. (Including many well off British people who currently have to visit hospitals in China to receive their stolen organs.)
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Current Chinese minimum wage rates vary between about 90p an hour and £1.70 an hour, depending on the province.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_China

    I am quite sure that many in the current Tory government would be happy to see a new special economic zone in the UK with those labour rates, run directly from Beijing. It would of course involve a substantial hedge fund involvement by friends of David Cameron and George Osborne, plus a percentage on the side to Tory funds and Goldman Sachs.

    Liverpool would seem the likeliest candidate, although cities like Bristol, Sheffield or Nottingham, regarded by Whitehall as dumping grounds, would also be considered suitable.

    All human rights would be suspended and labour camps opened. As in China, fair trials would be abolished and prisoners denied an independent defence. The sentence in most cases would be death by firing squad. Also, as in China, organs would be removed prior to execution for sale to foreign buyers. (Including many well off British people who currently have to visit hospitals in China to receive their stolen organs.)
    But at least the presence of a Chinese slave factory in the UK would mean that for once the UK would have a proper and successful socialist establishment!
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Current Chinese minimum wage rates vary between about 90p an hour and £1.70 an hour, depending on the province.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_China

    I am quite sure that many in the current Tory government would be happy to see a new special economic zone in the UK with those labour rates, run directly from Beijing. It would of course involve a substantial hedge fund involvement by friends of David Cameron and George Osborne, plus a percentage on the side to Tory funds and Goldman Sachs.

    Liverpool would seem the likeliest candidate, although cities like Bristol, Sheffield or Nottingham, regarded by Whitehall as dumping grounds, would also be considered suitable.

    All human rights would be suspended and labour camps opened. As in China, fair trials would be abolished and prisoners denied an independent defence. The sentence in most cases would be death by firing squad. Also, as in China, organs would be removed prior to execution for sale to foreign buyers. (Including many well off British people who currently have to visit hospitals in China to receive their stolen organs.)
    So it's a deal then!?
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    So it's a deal then!?



    I love the bit where you don't take her seriously.
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    (Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal)
    I love the bit where you don't take her seriously.
    Well work fare programme, unpaid internships, zero hours contracts, food banks, deprivation, short life expectancy in industrial towns are not great. Plus a lot of what she said is propaganda. Which our government has already ignored in order to secure Chinese investment.

    Apprenticeship wages are pretty poor in the UK £2 an hour haha.
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    Give 'em Hull
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    I'm not sure why the Chinese would want to set up factories making widgets in the UK when they can make widgets in China at a fraction of the cost. Unless we are happy to see wages cut to about a third of what they currently are or less, we can not compete with Chinese and Indian factories that high unskilled and semi skilled labour.

    That doesn't mean we have to be defeated. It just means we have to get smart. I am still unsure of how to occupy those who fit into the unskilled / semi-skilled bracket though. We only need so many plumbers.
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    I'm not sure why the Chinese would want to set up factories making widgets in the UK when they can make widgets in China at a fraction of the cost. Unless we are happy to see wages cut to about a third of what they currently are or less, we can not compete with Chinese and Indian factories that high unskilled and semi skilled labour.

    That doesn't mean we have to be defeated. It just means we have to get smart. I am still unsure of how to occupy those who fit into the unskilled / semi-skilled bracket though. We only need so many plumbers.
    That's the bit attracting applause in Tory circles....
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    These are the percentages of Chinese investment in UK companies.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34542147

 
 
 

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