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    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss

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    It's not that cold!
    We live in the south and we don't turn on our central heating, we have a small wood fire and we use jumpers and blankets!! People were much worse off in the war and made do with what they had, I'm sure we can!
    You can buy 13 tog duvets for £10, which is incredibly warm. I'm sure everyone owns things such as jumpers and long trousers for crying out loud!


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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss

    The lowest fuel prices in Western Europe.

    Decades of government grants to insulate homes.

    Additional payments for pensioners.


    Things went wrong when labour implemented the green energy tax that hiked up fuel prices by an additional 20%. Still, the poorest in society and steel workers will continue to its labour.


    I'm hoping not to turn my heating on again this year. I'm burning the plentiful supply of free wood I collected two years ago.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    The lowest fuel prices in Western Europe.

    Decades of government grants to insulate homes.

    Additional payments for pensioners.


    Things went wrong when labour implemented the green energy tax that hiked up fuel prices by an additional 20%. Still, the poorest in society and steel workers will continue to its labour.


    I'm hoping not to turn my heating on again this year. I'm burning the plentiful supply of free wood I collected two years ago.
    I'd say most homes in the UK (excluding flats and apartments) have a fire, it's how it used to be before central heating was readily available
    We only ever turn ours on for an hour in the morning, sometimes in the evening if it's been raining and we're all wet, or if my dad is out and we feel like it! But generally we make do, even though it's not too expensive we don't like using it, mainly because the upstairs doesn't get heated. Central heating isn't the be all and end all of keeping warm!


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    (Original post by JessThomas6)
    It's not that cold!
    We live in the south and we don't turn on our central heating, we have a small wood fire and we use jumpers and blankets!! People were much worse off in the war and made do with what they had, I'm sure we can!
    You can buy 13 tog duvets for £10, which is incredibly warm. I'm sure everyone owns things such as jumpers and long trousers for crying out loud!


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    You are of course right.

    But habitual welfare claimants such as the OP often exaggerate stories relating to the most vunerable in society in order to protect their benefits claims.

    Government cuts threaten to make people who are capable of fending for themselves stand on their own two feet doesnt have quite the same emotional appeal as when they wheel a cripple out.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss

    Oh lord he can't hold a pitch.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    You are of course right.

    But habitual welfare claimants such as the OP often exaggerate stories relating to the most vunerable in society in order to protect their benefits claims.

    Government cuts threaten to make people who are capable of fending for themselves stand on their own two feet doesnt have quite the same emotional appeal as when they wheel a cripple out.
    True!
    My dad gets winter fuel allowance when we don't need it, he always donates it to a charity to help older people, as irbid true that the winter affects them as they get colder easily, but they worked and they have pension, as well as support from family (we leave my Gran and everyone in her community some blankets, thermals and microwave heating pads each winter to help, little things like that make the difference)


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    (Original post by JessThomas6)
    True!
    My dad gets winter fuel allowance when we don't need it, he always donates it to a charity to help older people, as irbid true that the winter affects them as they get colder easily, but they worked and they have pension, as well as support from family (we leave my Gran and everyone in her community some blankets, thermals and microwave heating pads each winter to help, little things like that make the difference)


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    I've yet to go into ample persons house and not feel Like im melting with the heat.

    Good on your dad.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    I've yet to go into ample persons house and not feel Like im melting with the heat.

    Good on your dad.
    So blooming true
    Even when it's below freezing, we can go into my grandmothers house and have to strip off our jumper and sit around in t-shirts
    I think the elderly enjoy heat and want to keep their family warm, their hearts are in the right places


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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    The lowest fuel prices in Western Europe.

    Decades of government grants to insulate homes.

    Additional payments for pensioners.


    Things went wrong when labour implemented the green energy tax that hiked up fuel prices by an additional 20%. Still, the poorest in society and steel workers will continue to its labour.


    I'm hoping not to turn my heating on again this year. I'm burning the plentiful supply of free wood I collected two years ago.
    Wrong! Energy prices in France are half the price than in the UK.
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    I don't get could unless it is like 5 degrees C and I always open the window slightly for fresh air during the night even if it is snowing.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss
    Let's be honest; you don't actually want to discuss. You want to have an ill-informed rant, argue for a bit and then stop replying once you're categorically proven wrong.. just like a majority of your other threads.

    If you want to have these one-sided 'debates' go stick your views down on a leaflet and post it through people's doors during the day when only those at home will be the unemployed and they can join you in being angry at everyone else but themselves for their situations.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    Wrong! Energy prices in France are half the price than in the UK.
    Well done for identifying that France's nuclear power stations allow France to have some of the lowest electricity prices in Europe . ( maybe you'll be a little bit more supportive of nuclear power generation.)

    Tell me though Mr 'I like to make stuff up.' Is electricity the only energy source used for heating? What about gas?

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...s-warn-PM.html

    The fuel property you talk of has firstly been blown out of proportion and is also the result of the minister for energy and the environment, the right honourable Ed Milliband signing the uk up for a green energy tax.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss
    Tax credits represent the problem with welfare. They were supposed to top up low pay and support those who were worthy of support.

    However;
    They then became this benefit for huge numbers to claim. If businesses know that if they pay low wages only for the government to top it up, what did the geniuses who introduced the system expect to happen? Wages not to go down? Madness.

    Tax credits also became a way for a taxpayer with no children to pay for the children of others. People could pop out kids and get them supported by child benefit, tax credits, etc. Well I know that it may seem that the money for other peoples' kids may just come from the government but said government has to collect taxes for that. And using other peoples' taxes to subsidise the breeding of others is plain stupid. Pay for your own life choices.

    Look to any council estate to see how children can boost someones income. Want a bigger council house? Have more kids. Want to work part time but get paid like you work full time? Claim tax credits. To see how the benefits system can still be exploited see the case of Cheryl Prudham.
    As for that person on Question Time making her tax credits rant; why does she have four kids and a dog? And where is the father? Just a typical chav really-opens their legs before waiting for a decent man and just expects society to pick up the bill.

    So I am in favour of the tax credit cuts because a) business should not be subsidised, b) because tax credits are a way of subisidisng other people's lifestyle choices.

    When I have kids I will pay for them myself. I won't have them and expect taxpayers money to go towards reimbursing me and my partner for our children. I mean all she did was lie on her back for half an hour and I make vague rhythmic hip movements; I can't expect to get paid for doing this from taxes, paid by people who actually work.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    But habitual welfare claimants such as the OP often exaggerate stories relating to the most vunerable in society in order to protect their benefits claims.
    Of course MS. I am living the high life at Uni. Just yesterday I found out I could use Carbon Fibre filament for my 3D printing work. Next thing your know is I will be cruising down the high street with full custom bike parts similar to Shimano XTR.

    They see me rolling, they hating, patrolling they be trying to catch me riding dirty !!!

    Of course I'm loving milking my Uni for everything at the moment. I better keep quiet anyway don't want any of you lot finding out where I'm based. Your be ask me for money. And I love my money don't I! Gotta keep the champagne in champagne Socialist mug. Got a reputation to maintain after all.

    Since I'm such a welfare queen I was thinking about copying John Oliver's church which he closed down. It was called "Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption". Its where people send money in as a seed faith in hope they will get fiscal blessings back. To my surprise Church's don't pay tax in the UK which is the same in the USA.

    Link here. Click if you want many laughs:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Well done for identifying that France's nuclear power stations allow France to have some of the lowest electricity prices in Europe . ( maybe you'll be a little bit more supportive of nuclear power generation.)

    Tell me though Mr 'I like to make stuff up.' Is electricity the only energy source used for heating? What about gas?

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...s-warn-PM.html

    The fuel property you talk of has firstly been blown out of proportion and is also the result of the minister for energy and the environment, the right honourable Ed Milliband signing the uk up for a green energy tax.
    You know what I stand to be corrected on this one so well done. The problem though is we don't have enough fixed power generation. The Tories are doing the right thing in building a Nuclear power station and I congratulate the Government in getting China to invest up to 30 billion into the UK economy.

    Your right about New Labour screwing up the energy sector. Those green taxes has caused nothing but problems and your only just scratching the surface.

    But when I say Tories MS you need to remember I tend to put Blairites it the same boat as Tories.

    But lets remember the long list of Labour screw ups so we can hold new Labour to account so they fix the current system.

    Now we both have our own homes so your probably agree with me here.

    1. Wind Power was a joke. Blair basically did the same thing with PFI's which he did with Wind Power contracts. We basically ended up paying more than needed.
    2. The whole home insulation thing wasn't needed. You had Pensioners loosing their lives in city blocks because they where too hot in Summer and during Winter cavity walls which where not suited for cavity wall insulation where getting soaked with water & condensation resulting in mold over walls.
    3. The whole exodus from coal has put in danger of power black outs.

    I personally am in favor of harnessing the power of the tides. Wind is a product of the waves. Why harvest moving air particles when you can get more energy from the force of moving water?

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...561364/?no-ist
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    Of course MS. I am living the high life at Uni. Just yesterday I found out I could use Carbon Fibre filament for my 3D printing work. Next thing your know is I will be cruising down the high street with full custom bike parts similar to Shimano XTR.

    They see me rolling, they hating, patrolling they be trying to catch me riding dirty !!!

    Of course I'm loving milking my Uni for everything at the moment. I better keep quiet anyway don't want any of you lot finding out where I'm based. Your be ask me for money. And I love my money don't I! Gotta keep the champagne in champagne Socialist mug. Got a reputation to maintain after all.

    Since I'm such a welfare queen I was thinking about copying John Oliver's church which he closed down. It was called "Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption". Its where people send money in as a seed faith in hope they will get fiscal blessings back. To my surprise Church's don't pay tax in the UK which is the same in the USA.

    Link here. Click if you want many laughs:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg



    You know what I stand to be corrected on this one so well done. The problem though is we don't have enough fixed power generation. The Tories are doing the right thing in building a Nuclear power station and I congratulate the Government in getting China to invest up to 30 billion into the UK economy.

    Your right about New Labour screwing up the energy sector. Those green taxes has caused nothing but problems and your only just scratching the surface.

    But when I say Tories MS you need to remember I tend to put Blairites it the same boat as Tories.

    But lets remember the long list of Labour screw ups so we can hold new Labour to account so they fix the current system.

    Now we both have our own homes so your probably agree with me here.

    1. Wind Power was a joke. Blair basically did the same thing with PFI's which he did with Wind Power contracts. We basically ended up paying more than needed.
    2. The whole home insulation thing wasn't needed. You had Pensioners loosing their lives in city blocks because they where too hot in Summer and during Winter cavity walls which where not suited for cavity wall insulation where getting soaked with water & condensation resulting in mold over walls.
    3. The whole exodus from coal has put in danger of power black outs.

    I personally am in favor of harnessing the power of the tides. Wind is a product of the waves. Why harvest moving air particles when you can get more energy from the force of moving water?

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...561364/?no-ist
    You're at university now? What are you studying?

    Why did you quit your £140k a year FOREX job?
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    You're at university now? What are you studying?

    Why did you quit your £140k a year FOREX job?
    You misunderstood me when I talked about a salary of £150,000+. At that time I was talking about Haskell Coding & Quant Trading. I said that I was working towards becoming a High Frequency Trader(Quant Trader) which is basically a programmer who can write instructions for a Artificial Intelligence to manipulate financial markets in nano-seconds.

    Give you a good example. Lets say you go and buy a share on the stock market. In the time between your order being executed I can buy the share before you and charge you more for it. I can do that because I can write code that is executed faster than your broker talking to trading floor partner.

    The catch is I need to be in area which has ultra fast broadband.

    The reason why I abandoned this is due to the current economic & political climate of super power nations such as China & the USA. I am in the camp that sees the USA causing financial disasters all over the planet due to their reckless QE policy & diminishing Petro Dollar status. I also hold the belief that we are moving to a cashless society where a lot of Christian prophecy could come true in our life times.

    So basically I am bugging out.

    Computing is still my core discipline but I want to move into Mechanical/Electronic Engineering while learning about the needs of Microscopic Biological Organism's and Freshwater Fish.

    In short I am looking to produce more food for our planet but do it in a way where I can experiment with my hobby at home or among my friends.

    I'm looking into getting my own 3D Printer at the moment because I want to build my own prototypes while I am studying. 8 hour prints etc.

    I am in the process of building a filter system at the moment for a Aquaponics system.

    Look at the video:

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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    You misunderstood me when I talked about a salary of £150,000+. At that time I was talking about Haskell Coding & Quant Trading. I said that I was working towards becoming a High Frequency Trader(Quant Trader) which is basically a programmer who can write instructions for a Artificial Intelligence to manipulate financial markets in nano-seconds.

    Give you a good example. Lets say you go and buy a share on the stock market. In the time between your order being executed I can buy the share before you and charge you more for it. I can do that because I can write code that is executed faster than your broker talking to trading floor partner.

    The catch is I need to be in area which has ultra fast broadband.

    These algorithms are worth a LOT of money. If you were the kind of guy doing this stuff, or capable of doing it, you would be selling your services to the world and making a fortune. You wouldn't have time to make huge numbers of threads bashing the Tories in the most petty and trivial way possible.

    The reason why I abandoned this is due to the current economic & political climate of super power nations such as China & the USA. I am in the camp that sees the USA causing financial disasters all over the planet due to their reckless QE policy & diminishing Petro Dollar status. I also hold the belief that we are moving to a cashless society where a lot of Christian prophecy could come true in our life times.
    So you abandoned a lucrative industry for some moral high ground? Anyone who has read your posts knows that you would happily get snipers to execute migrants (your own words) to get a few pence extra a week in benefits; I somehow doubt that you would turn down many millions a decade for what is not an immoral job.

    So basically I am bugging out.

    Yep, you turned down a job paying millions for making far left nutter threads on TSR. Sounds legit.

    Computing is still my core discipline but I want to move into Mechanical/Electronic Engineering while learning about the needs of Microscopic Biological Organism's and Freshwater Fish.

    In short I am looking to produce more food for our planet but do it in a way where I can experiment with my hobby at home or among my friends.

    I'm looking into getting my own 3D Printer at the moment because I want to build my own prototypes while I am studying. 8 hour prints etc.

    I am in the process of building a filter system at the moment for a Aquaponics system.

    Look at the video:

    I really don't believe that someone as highly qualified as you, a designer of the stock market algorithms you describe worth many millions, would then decide to get an education all over again at...
    the Open University. These kind of hot shots of they want a career change can go to better institutions or much more accurately go to any employer, plonk their ass on the table and get paid a huge salary and given free training in the process.

    Sorry, I struggle to understand how somehow working towards (and having a good shot at getting, not like how I by going running once a week am looking to replace Mo Farah) the kind of stuff you describe would then go to the Open University. This you have stated on other threads. Doesn't add up one bit.
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    I wonder how many poor people in the uk are freezing tonight. I then wonder how many low paid workers will be freezing after they loose the income from tax credits.

    /discuss

    Does a potential big balelr shot caller trader making millions (or who COULD make millions but choose not to) spend their hours posting videos of politicans singing some song from a kids movie? I assume this is what that video is, apologies if it is actually something more intelligent.
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    That video oh my god.
 
 
 
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