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    Hi,
    I'm trying to choice between these two universities and I'm really struggling. Both the courses sound really good and I was wondering if anyone had any advice or knew anything that would help me choose
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    English at UEA, definitely. It's got a great rep for English and and I'm at UEA and it's a great uni. I'm also pretty sure that Norwich is a lot more fun than that small Lough place which I cannot spell.
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    (Original post by Tinks12)
    Hi,
    I'm trying to choice between these two universities and I'm really struggling. Both the courses sound really good and I was wondering if anyone had any advice or knew anything that would help me choose
    After course content should come facilities incl accomodation and location. I know very little about Loughborough but at UEA all accomodation is self catered, mostly ensuite and mostly on campus. The campus is a 15-20 mins bus ride from Norwich city centre which has 2 shopping centres, lots of shops outside the shopping centres, lots of pubs, a fair few clubs and bars, a bowling alley and 3 cinemas.
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    If you've got AAB, you can get into better universities than those two.
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    (Original post by callum_law)
    If you've got AAB, you can get into better universities than those two.
    The OP might be looking for a 5th back up choice
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    (Original post by callum_law)
    If you've got AAB, you can get into better universities than those two.
    What do you mean by better? They're both quite high up in the rankings? I've looked at York and Lancaster but found the courses a bit dull and a bit in the middle of no where
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    (Original post by Tinks12)
    What do you mean by better? They're both quite high up in the rankings? I've looked at York and Lancaster but found the courses a bit dull and a bit in the middle of no where
    You mean that the lesser universities make more of a concerted effort to romanticise the course content, whereas the better universities leave you with more substantive information about the course. The courses are no more different or romantic; the only difference is that the lesser unis need to try harder to sell the courses, whereas York does not.

    Norwich is about 1hr50 away from London by train; York is too. And there's a whole lot to do in York.
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    (Original post by callum_law)
    You mean that the lesser universities make more of a concerted effort to romanticise the course content, whereas the better universities leave you with more substantive information about the course. The courses are no more different or romantic; the only difference is that the lesser unis need to try harder to sell the courses, whereas York does not.

    Norwich is about 1hr50 away from London by train; York is too. And there's a whole lot to do in York.
    No. I don't mean that? I mean that the course at York is a traditional English degree with no creative writing or vocational modules. Where as Loughborough and East Anglia offer both these things. York uses examination where as Loughborough and East Anglia use coursework. All English degrees vary as the teachers that teach at them will specialise in different areas. The top university guide actually places York below both the stated universities so how are they lesser? I am really grateful for the advice but I'm really confused where you are getting your information from?
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    (Original post by Tinks12)
    No. I don't mean that? I mean that the course at York is a traditional English degree with no creative writing or vocational modules. Where as Loughborough and East Anglia offer both these things. York uses examination where as Loughborough and East Anglia use coursework. All English degrees vary as the teachers that teach at them will specialise in different areas. The top university guide actually places York below both the stated universities so how are they lesser? I am really grateful for the advice but I'm really confused where you are getting your information from?
    I think the poster is confused by the fact that overall York generally is seen as a more prestigious university than Loughborough and East Anglia. However for English both Loughborough and East Anglia have strong departments. Both unis are still good ones overall and if you prefer the course content they offer along with the other aspects I mentioned to look at then there is no reason why not to choose them. For a degree like English then work experience combined with a strong application is the key to job hunting success.
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    (Original post by jelly1000)
    I think the poster is confused by the fact that overall York generally is seen as a more prestigious university than Loughborough and East Anglia. However for English both Loughborough and East Anglia have strong departments. Both unis are still good ones overall and if you prefer the course content they offer along with the other aspects I mentioned to look at then there is no reason why not to choose them. For a degree like English then work experience combined with a strong application is the key to job hunting success.
    I think the poster (myself) might be speaking from a position that the actual course specified at York is much more highly rated than Loughy and UEA. I think the other poster (you) might be blinded by the fact you attended one of the institutions (UEA). Great, UEA is good and I am sure you can back that up with experience ... but York is better.

    (Original post by Tinks12)
    I am really grateful for the advice but I'm really confused where you are getting your information from?
    I am getting that information from York's prestige, its humanities course which are renowned, and its top 10 placing (7th, I believe) in the CUG English ranking in contrast the to 30th place of the other two irrelevancies. You can ignore me all you like, but don't come crawling back to me to help you once you graduate and spend a year on the dole.
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    (Original post by callum_law)
    I think the poster (myself) might be speaking from a position that the actual course specified at York is much more highly rated than Loughy and UEA. I think the other poster (you) might be blinded by the fact you attended one of the institutions (UEA). Great, UEA is good and I am sure you can back that up with experience ... but York is better.



    I am getting that information from York's prestige, its humanities course which are renowned, and its top 10 placing (7th, I believe) in the CUG English ranking in contrast the to 30th place of the other two irrelevancies. You can ignore me all you like, but don't come crawling back to me to help you once you graduate and spend a year on the dole.
    I don't doubt that York is a stronger university overall, however league table positions don't guarentee someone will be happy & do well on degree nor do they mean that someone will have a much easier ride getting a job after. As a UEA grad I've had several interviews now myself, the rest has been down to me.
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    (Original post by callum_law)
    I think the poster (myself) might be speaking from a position that the actual course specified at York is much more highly rated than Loughy and UEA. I think the other poster (you) might be blinded by the fact you attended one of the institutions (UEA). Great, UEA is good and I am sure you can back that up with experience ... but York is better.



    I am getting that information from York's prestige, its humanities course which are renowned, and its top 10 placing (7th, I believe) in the CUG English ranking in contrast the to 30th place of the other two irrelevancies. You can ignore me all you like, but don't come crawling back to me to help you once you graduate and spend a year on the dole.
    Okay, we seem to have strayed far from the original question.
    1) We are all aware of York's prestige, however, I am not going to choose my university, a place that I must spend 3/4 years of my life in, on it's 'prestige'.
    2) You are studying Law. I asked about English at a university you do not attend or appear to have any ties to why do you feel the need to take time out of your oh so precious and entitled life to reply to me. Do you not have a better use of your time than being rude to 18 year old students?
    3) I am offended by your response; I have higher standards than 'crawling back' to you.
    4) I do not know what impression you have of me but I assure you I will not reduce myself to spending a 'year on the dole'. Although I appreciate your inability to think of a more substantial and civilised response. I am sure your future as a lawyer with this vocabulary will be bright.

    (please don't take out the fact that you're obviously a bitter Oxbridge reject on the innocent members of the student room)
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    (Original post by jelly1000)
    I don't doubt that York is a stronger university overall, however league table positions don't guarentee someone will be happy & do well on degree nor do they mean that someone will have a much easier ride getting a job after. As a UEA grad I've had several interviews now myself, the rest has been down to me.
    I am not saying that a university having greater prestige than others always makes the more prestigious university preferable, for the reasons you say. However, there will be the things which reside in UEA's course (such as creative writing and all that jazz) at universities with better prestige. I am not saying anyone should sacrifice their passion for a style of course for prestige, but rather they should aim for both. They should aim for the best they can.

    (Original post by Tinks12)
    Okay, we seem to have strayed far from the original question.
    1) We are all aware of York's prestige, however, I am not going to choose my university, a place that I must spend 3/4 years of my life in, on it's 'prestige'.
    2) You are studying Law. I asked about English at a university you do not attend or appear to have any ties to why do you feel the need to take time out of your oh so precious and entitled life to reply to me. Do you not have a better use of your time than being rude to 18 year old students?
    3) I am offended by your response; I have higher standards than 'crawling back' to you.
    4) I do not know what impression you have of me but I assure you I will not reduce myself to spending a 'year on the dole'. Although I appreciate your inability to think of a more substantial and civilised response. I am sure your future as a lawyer with this vocabulary will be bright.

    (please don't take out the fact that you're obviously a bitter Oxbridge reject on the innocent members of the student room)
    I applied for law courses alongside linguistics courses, which isn't English Lit, but still I do have some insight into the topic area. I also have an insight into how universities operate and how such operation reflects the course as advertised. Romanticised description of course content, whilst beautiful to behold and inspiring butterflies in one's belly, does not generally reflect the actual course too well. If you want to do a module specifically, such as creative writing, then obviously this is a different matter because it's a substantive issue. However, "At open day, I met a lecturer who seemed to love the topic of English, so I chose them" is like choosing A-Level history in the hope you get the same teacher as you had for GCSEs.

    I didn't say anything too harsh to you, I believe. If I were trying to inflame you, as you've tried to do to me, I could have commented on a range of syntactic issues in your writing, which an English student should not have. However, what you're offended by is my opinion on this matter, which you don't like for some reason. It has nothing to do with my character and I am not going to rise to your petty digs at it. As I said, you can listen to me or you cannot. I simply do not care either way.
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    (Original post by Tinks12)
    Okay, we seem to have strayed far from the original question.
    1) We are all aware of York's prestige, however, I am not going to choose my university, a place that I must spend 3/4 years of my life in, on it's 'prestige'.
    2) You are studying Law. I asked about English at a university you do not attend or appear to have any ties to why do you feel the need to take time out of your oh so precious and entitled life to reply to me. Do you not have a better use of your time than being rude to 18 year old students?
    3) I am offended by your response; I have higher standards than 'crawling back' to you.
    4) I do not know what impression you have of me but I assure you I will not reduce myself to spending a 'year on the dole'. Although I appreciate your inability to think of a more substantial and civilised response. I am sure your future as a lawyer with this vocabulary will be bright.

    (please don't take out the fact that you're obviously a bitter Oxbridge reject on the innocent members of the student room)
    If the guy wasn't trying to help, they wouldn't have responded to your question in the first place. Instead of being offended by the advice, you could do some research into what he's talking about, and then decide if you want to take or leave it. This is coming from somebody who doesn't care all that much about 'prestige' either, but that's because I have very different priorities to lots of other people. Just make sure that you're taking every option into consideration; you don't want to end up limiting yourself for the future.

    Don't interpret everything as hostile is my personal advice. You'll be happier for it.

    Anyway, I'm on ABB and also considering the same universities as you, so I'm also interested in this topic. I'm completely clueless about other good ABB universities.
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    Lots of great points being made in this thread I just wanted to bring into this our video for Literature and Creative Writing to give you a further feel for UEA:



    Also a glimpse of what it's like to study here in Norwich can be found on our YouTube channel too.
 
 
 
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