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Are benefits still too generous in the UK?

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Original post by Personinsertname
You might call me a communist or socialist but i think everyody should receive just enough to live based on a standadized cost of everything calculating the flunctuations of prices. Then you add jobs which will give out alot less money but still relative to effort popularity and money made (obviously). The standadized benefits should only cover 90% of living costs though so jobs can be effective in promoting effort or total output (work ) done. This should be also calculated and sport as well as desk jobs should be counted equally but based on what they bring to economies.

There are many flaws in this but making the money earned alot less can help improve efficency as bigs numbers can introduce inflation. The benefits may be considered a different currency just by providing the basic rights.


Where would the money come from if you gave the same amount to everyone?
Original post by OU Student
Where would the money come from if you gave the same amount to everyone?


In that one world the rules would be global and it would merely have no value. Money technically has no value besides the gold its worth(worth is nothing).
Original post by OU Student
Where would the money come from if you gave the same amount to everyone?


There are a number of areas where something along these lines has been implemented and worked

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/citizens-income-71-week-person-would-make-britain-fairer explains some of the costings and benefits/problems (and case studies)
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Foreigners should not be allowed to claim benefits until they have contributed to the system for a pre-defined period of time. Citizens should only be allowed to claim benefits if they are unable to work due to medical conditions, for example.
£50 a week? I spend more than that on breakfast
Original post by Llamageddon
£50 a week? I spend more than that on breakfast


I spent half of that on some nice olives and nuts yesterday from a market trader it's sod all


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Original post by Llamageddon
£50 a week? I spend more than that on breakfast


Are you Iain Duncan Smith?
Original post by Llamageddon
£50 a week? I spend more than that on breakfast


Original post by paul514
I spent half of that on some nice olives and nuts yesterday from a market trader it's sod all


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How much savings and assets do you have?
Original post by OU Student
Are you Iain Duncan Smith?


That was EXACTLY what I thought.
Original post by Bill_Gates
How much savings and assets do you have?


A normal amount for a none tramp


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Original post by paul514
A normal amount for a none tramp


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why spend so much on olives and nuts!? :tongue:
Original post by Bill_Gates
How much savings and assets do you have?
dunno. I have a lot of money tied up in things I can't really access and I don't really keep a tab on shares or look at my ISA / read stuff from banks unless they're saying I need to pay them money.

Just saying £50 is pitiful it's not like these people are living the high life. My weekly expenditure is a lot more than that.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
That was EXACTLY what I thought.
well I like to celebrate this new holiday called always with eggs benedict and I'm not going to make it myself
Original post by WokSz
Foreigners should not be allowed to claim benefits until they have contributed to the system for a pre-defined period of time.
EU says no (unless Cameron changes this, though it's unlikely to happen).
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Original post by Bupdeeboowah
EU says no (unless Cameron changes this, though it's unlikely to happen).


So, leave :smile:
Original post by Bill_Gates
why spend so much on olives and nuts!? :tongue:


Because my other half likes them and it's not a big deal


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Original post by paul514
Because my other half likes them and it's not a big deal


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You need to live within your means Paul, our economy depends on it!
Original post by Bill_Gates
You need to live within your means Paul, our economy depends on it!
I'm quite sure the 25 quid he spent was peanuts to him.
Original post by Bupdeeboowah
I'm quite sure the 25 quid he spent was peanuts to him.


Nice pun and yea it is which just shows how little Jsa is


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Original post by Personinsertname
You might call me a communist or socialist


Hardly. Hayek and Friedman were in favour of guaranteed minimum incomes.

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