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    I'm applying for German and Arabic (and possibly Russian), and want to get into St Andrews University.
    Their language courses all require an AAB.

    Biology
    BIOL1: A
    BIOL2: B
    BIOL3X: D (Resitting as well.)
    Cash-in: B

    Chemistry
    CH1: B
    CH2: A
    CH3: A
    Cash-in: B

    German
    GN1: U (Resitting as well.)
    GN2: B
    Cash-in: D

    I somehow really messed up in the speaking exam (or the examiner did, and no, I don't speak this out of arrogance, but actually have valid reasons for believing that is a possibility.)

    I am predicted an A, an A and a B respectively, and an A* for the Welsh Baccalaureate (referral was a distinction.)

    I think my personal statement is very good (though I won't post any parts of it. ;p)(I don't want to sound arrogant, but I think I have a way with words, and it looks far better than others I've seen.) I'm immensely proud of it.


    I've heard plenty of times that personal statement is also just as important, and can entirely change whether it's accepted or not, but how much of an emphasis is there on AS grades? I know I could've done better (but I doubt that counts for much.)

    Are my chances of getting in severely hindered? I know this post might sound snobby, but I'm worrying I'm not going to meet the requirements.
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    Sorry want to send my UCAS application ASAP, but I want to see what other people think of my chances for St Andrews are first.
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    (Original post by emiloujess)
    You could try but I very much doubt that you'll get an offer. On top of all the hopefuls like you they'll also have people with great PS's AND the required grades. Be very prepared for rejection. I'd almost say it's a wasted choice.
    Oh :cringe: Thanks anyway. I initially thought that I had higher chances, as many say that personal statements have a lot of sway (like drastically improve an otherwise bad application), but it's better that I knew about this now instead of after I applied.

    Are there any ways to increase my chances (drastically)?
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    Oh :cringe: Thanks anyway. I initially thought that I had higher chances, as many say that personal statements have a lot of sway (like drastically improve an otherwise bad application), but it's better that I knew about this now instead of after I applied.

    Are there any ways to increase my chances (drastically)?
    Don't go on my opinion alone, I've played very safe with my choices Sorry if I sounded a little harsh, I'm extremely tired. If you're predicted the same grades (sorry, I only just saw that!) Then you'll have a chance, I didn't mean to put you off altogether! and PS's do have a sway - they're the only difference between applicants with the same (predicted) grades. References too! Just play safe with your other choices. Which others have you applied to?
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    My friend got into Uni of Liverpool to do Physics 4 year including masters with grades BBC.

    You will probably get a offer if you re sit the majority of your exams and you get higher predicted grades.
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    (Original post by emiloujess)
    Don't go on my opinion alone, I've played very safe with my choices Sorry if I sounded a little harsh, I'm extremely tired. If you're predicted the same grades (sorry, I only just saw that!) Then you'll have a chance, I didn't mean to put you off altogether! and PS's do have a sway - they're the only difference between applicants with the same (predicted) grades. References too! Just play safe with your other choices. Which others have you applied to?
    No, I appreciate it, and I won't only consider your opinion anyway, but it is an opinion nonetheless, and I prefer the honesty. I prefer the harshness. I was in a slight state of limbo before.

    UCLan
    Exeter
    Leeds
    and two different courses at St Andrews (wanted the option of possibly doing Russian also, as I am still undecided on that aspect.)

    Not many places do German and Arabic (and Oxford and Durham were too high, didn't plan to go to either of those regardless.)
    The only other place, Warwick.
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    (Original post by Evil Genius)
    My friend got into Uni of Liverpool to do Physics 4 year including masters with grades BBC.

    You will probably get a offer if you re sit the majority of your exams and you get higher predicted grades.
    So would you at all recommend postponing the applications until I can get higher predicted grades, at the next exams? Or can that be edited later? I'm not exactly sure how the process works in college and through UCAS.
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    No, I appreciate it, and I won't only consider your opinion anyway, but it is an opinion nonetheless, and I prefer the honesty. I prefer the harshness. I was in a slight state of limbo before.

    UCLan
    Exeter
    Leeds
    and two different courses at St Andrews (wanted the option of possibly doing Russian also, as I am still undecided on that aspect.)

    Not many places do German and Arabic (and Oxford and Durham were too high, didn't plan to go to either of those regardless.)
    The only other place, Warwick.
    All those universities are good I've applied to Aberystwyth, Birmingham, Cardiff (x2) and Swansea. I'm guessing your heart is set on St Andrews though? It does look amazing... *sighs wistfully*
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    No, I appreciate it, and I won't only consider your opinion anyway, but it is an opinion nonetheless, and I prefer the honesty. I prefer the harshness. I was in a slight state of limbo before.

    UCLan
    Exeter
    Leeds
    and two different courses at St Andrews (wanted the option of possibly doing Russian also, as I am still undecided on that aspect.)

    Not many places do German and Arabic (and Oxford and Durham were too high, didn't plan to go to either of those regardless.)
    The only other place, Warwick.
    I'd give Warwick a bash

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    (Original post by Evil Genius)
    My friend got into Uni of Liverpool to do Physics 4 year including masters with grades BBC.

    You will probably get a offer if you re sit the majority of your exams and you get higher predicted grades.
    Wait what? Your friend got into Liverpool for MSc Physics 4 year course with BBC at A level. I was considering applying to Liverpool as I liked the university and campus but I only have BCC at A level and will most likely be predicted BBB(resitting the 2 C's) Do you think its worth applying to Liverpool for their BSc Physics 3 year degree course?

    I know Liverpool has been in clearing quite often but I would like some insight if its worth putting Liverpool as a choice on UCAS with BCC at A level but BBB predictions?
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    (Original post by emiloujess)
    All those universities are good I've applied to Aberystwyth, Birmingham, Cardiff (x2) and Swansea. I'm guessing your heart is set on St Andrews though? It does look amazing... *sighs wistfully*
    xD I haven't looked into it perhaps as much as I should have, but some things just... click, if that makes sense?

    Most things about it do (apart from a bad review thread on here.)

    If you want to know anything about Cardiff, you've came to the right person. (In the sense that I've lived around there all my life.)
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    xD I haven't looked into it perhaps as much as I should have, but some things just... click, if that makes sense?

    Most things about it do (apart from a bad review thread on here.)

    If you want to know anything about Cardiff, you've came to the right person. (In the sense that I've lived around there all my life.)
    Yes, it definitely makes sense - it happened with me and Cardiff :love: I've never had the opportunity to visit Scotland unfortunately.

    Oh, you're so so lucky! I'm firming Cardiff for sure (I already have an offer from them) and I've told my Dad that I'll likely be staying there for the majority of my life because to get a decent job I'd either have to be in Cardiff or London.
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    (Original post by XxKingSniprxX)
    Wait what? Your friend got into Liverpool for MSc Physics 4 year course with BBC at A level. I was considering applying to Liverpool as I liked the university and campus but I only have BCC at A level and will most likely be predicted BBB(resitting the 2 C's) Do you think its worth applying to Liverpool for their BSc Physics 3 year degree course?

    I know Liverpool has been in clearing quite often but I would like some insight if its worth putting Liverpool as a choice on UCAS with BCC at A level but BBB predictions?
    Well for science courses some Uni's are bit more lenient. My Friend didn't get into Birmingham because of his results but somehow Liverpool accepted him which he was happy about because Liverpool is still a very prestigious Uni.

    What subjects are you doing at A Level? If you are doing Maths and Science subjects then yeah go for it.
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    I'd give Warwick a bash

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    May I ask, any reasons in particular?
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    Does anyone know how to find the success rates for applicants for a particular school? It doesn't seem as easy as just searching it up (or I'm doing something incredibly wrong.)
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    to be honest with you I doubt you will get an offer from St Andrews. They are massively oversubscribed and people getting in there are likely to have outstanding results. The one thing in your favour is that languages are not in demand at the moment so it is possible they will be looking to fill places in that subject and that possibly give you some hope whereas for other subjects there would definitely be little chance.
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    May I ask, any reasons in particular?
    I managed to get an offer even though I bombed my final (A2 -level ish) qualifications due to extenuating circumstances, my other grades weren't that bad though.

    Nonetheless, it seems that if you have a strong PS, reference (explaining the grades), predicitions that meet the entry requirements and otherwise decent grades (at GCSE for instance) you should have a chance of an offer.
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    last bump, sorry people.

    I just want to see a few more opinions on the matter, now that it's daytime.

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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    last bump, sorry people.

    I just want to see a few more opinions on the matter, now that it's daytime.

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    Modern languages are not popular courses, so there is that on your side. On the other hand, St Andrews is hugely popular and you are 4 grades below what they are asking for, and in particular, your weakest subject is the very one you are applying to study. You have to ask yourself why they would choose you above anyone with the right grades or nearer than you are. If you were an admissions tutor, who would you go for? If it is your only high risk, then fine, go ahead. Make sure the rest are within your reach.
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    last bump, sorry people.

    I just want to see a few more opinions on the matter, now that it's daytime.

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    As you have five choices and you know the risks involved you can make this as a risky choice- but I think putting down two course at St Andrews would be very risky as the chances are you would be rejected by both

    Your real problem is the fact that you got a D in the subject you want to study and I suspect they would want that to be one of the A'S. However good your personal statement is- unless there is strong evidence that you had specific reasons for this problem and your referee can explain them- this is likely to get you put in the rect pile.

    Even with extensuating circumstances - it usually only gives you one grade higher- : i.e. a C

    So by all means go for it but be realistic about what your chances are

    good luck
 
 
 
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