The lords just, JUST passed the new boundary changes. Based on how people voted in 2015 the result would be Con 370 Lab 158.* Sorry incorrect in title.
This assumes reduction to 600 MPs which may not happen.
Still, Corbyn just needs to target those non-voters, right?
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/userpoll.html
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(Original post by skeptical_john)
The lords just, JUST passed the new boundary changes. Based on how people voted in 2015 the result would be Con 370 Lab 158.* Sorry incorrect in title.
This assumes reduction to 600 MPs which may not happen.
Still, Corbyn just needs to target those non-voters, right?
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/userpoll.html -
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- 27-10-2015 21:38
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They are running scared had to change the boundaries so they will win in 2020. Has it even gone through the commons -
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- 27-10-2015 22:35
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Were Blair and Thatcher scared when they changed the boundaries with majorities already over 100. -
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- 27-10-2015 22:42
(Original post by ZZTop1)
They are running scared had to change the boundaries so they will win in 2020. Has it even gone through the commons
The only party worrying about 2020 is Labour. -
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- 27-10-2015 22:48
(Original post by ZZTop1)
He won due to SNP and UKIP
- of the collapse of Labour in Scotland, caused by disgruntled voters and the referendum
- the collapse of the Lib Dems and the fact they were second in most of their constituencies
- Labour's failure to attract middle-England voters
- Labour's failure to adopt a coherent answer for their track record on the economy
- the Conservatives' successes in job creation, economic growth and overall progress of the UK (from gay marriage to lower crime rates)
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- 27-10-2015 23:00
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The Conservatives won because:
- of the collapse of Labour in Scotland, caused by disgruntled voters and the referendum
- the collapse of the Lib Dems and the fact they were second in most of their constituencies
- Labour's failure to attract middle-England voters
- Labour's failure to adopt a coherent answer for their track record on the economy
- the Conservatives' successes in job creation, economic growth and overall progress of the UK (from gay marriage to lower crime rates)i
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- 30-10-2015 08:33
(Original post by skeptical_john)
The lords just, JUST passed the new boundary changes. Based on how people voted in 2015 the result would be Con 370 Lab 158.* Sorry incorrect in title.
This assumes reduction to 600 MPs which may not happen.
Still, Corbyn just needs to target those non-voters, right?
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/userpoll.html
The review that started in 2011 was supposed to be complete by 2015 but was killed off by Labour and the Liberals in 2013. The Labour Party pulled the same trick in 1969. The process has just been restarted.
Leaving aside the island constituencies which are treated differently for geographical reasons, the largest constituency has 91,987 voters and the smallest has 40,492. -
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- 30-10-2015 13:19
158, oh Jezza....
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- 30-10-2015 13:57
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158, oh Jezza.... -
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- 30-10-2015 14:19
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This is based on last years election and would have nothing to do with Corbyn. -
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- 30-10-2015 15:30
The Conservatives are simply balancing the system after Labour imported millions of voters...it's only fair...
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- 30-10-2015 15:55
Supreme Leader is supreme!
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- 30-10-2015 15:58
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Not what I was getting at. I was saying how he has got the worst platform to try to sort out labour's mess atm. -
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- 30-10-2015 16:08
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It's going to be even more difficult for UKIP. to get those desperately needed MPs... -
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- 30-10-2015 16:18
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Does that change Labour's position? -
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- 30-10-2015 16:19
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It just means there will be less cracks for UKIP to exploit. Seats will either be hard Labour or Tory. -
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- 30-10-2015 17:29
It's pretty outrageous that despite winning 51% of the seats with 36% of the vote, the Tories still consider the system is somehow unfair to them and demand it must be gerrymandered yet further. It speaks volumes about their values, or lack thereof.
That they then are saying that millions of retirees on the Costa Del Sol who haven't lived here for 20 years should also get a vote (while stripping the electoral rolls of two million more voters who may have forgotten to re-register) I think crosses the line from the normal cut and thrust of politics to something that is genuinely corrupt. And then the final gift to themselves; cutting off Labour's funding from the trade unions, a fundamentally illiberal and self-serving act.
I'm not the type to shriek "Evil Tory scum" or to say everything is a conspiracy. I find that mindset irritating. But in these cases, the Tories clearly are ensuring they alter the system in every way possible to try to fix the next election in their favour. It's disgusting.
For the Tories to whine about the alleged unfairness of a system that delivers them a majority with 36% of the votes, while UKIP (no favourites of mine) get less than a handful of seats with millions of votes is astonishingly corrupt and it shows that the old patrician sense of noblesse oblige, or genuine responsibility, that used to reside in the Conservative Party is dead. The Conservative Party used to be lead by the cream of the upper-class; now it's run by the dregs of the middle class.Last edited by SignFromDog; 30-10-2015 at 17:32. -
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- 30-10-2015 17:58
It will be postal fraud to the rescue for the tories again in 2020
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- 30-10-2015 20:28
(Original post by SignFromDog)
It's pretty outrageous that despite winning 51% of the seats with 36% of the vote, the Tories still consider the system is somehow unfair to them and demand it must be gerrymandered yet further. It speaks volumes about their values, or lack thereof.
That they then are saying that millions of retirees on the Costa Del Sol who haven't lived here for 20 years should also get a vote (while stripping the electoral rolls of two million more voters who may have forgotten to re-register) I think crosses the line from the normal cut and thrust of politics to something that is genuinely corrupt. And then the final gift to themselves; cutting off Labour's funding from the trade unions, a fundamentally illiberal and self-serving act.
I'm not the type to shriek "Evil Tory scum" or to say everything is a conspiracy. I find that mindset irritating. But in these cases, the Tories clearly are ensuring they alter the system in every way possible to try to fix the next election in their favour. It's disgusting.
For the Tories to whine about the alleged unfairness of a system that delivers them a majority with 36% of the votes, while UKIP (no favourites of mine) get less than a handful of seats with millions of votes is astonishingly corrupt and it shows that the old patrician sense of noblesse oblige, or genuine responsibility, that used to reside in the Conservative Party is dead. The Conservative Party used to be lead by the cream of the upper-class; now it's run by the dregs of the middle class.
Now this we're in full agreement!
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