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    I'm wondering how feasible it is to progress through the initial application stages (i.e. to an interview) with absolutely no finance/accounts experience in terms of employment or extra curriculars?

    I'm in my final year of MEng civil engineering at Loughborough and am on track for a first, however I've only completed an engineering internship (in Hong Kong) and have nothing to show that I have any interest in accountancy.

    I also performed poorly at A-levels, especially in maths. Which is ironic considering I've aced all my uni maths exams.

    Does anyone have any experience of applying, successfully or not, to the Big 4 when coming from a similar place?
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    I'm wondering how feasible it is to progress through the initial application stages (i.e. to an interview) with absolutely no finance/accounts experience in terms of employment or extra curriculars?

    I'm in my final year of MEng civil engineering at Loughborough and am on track for a first, however I've only completed an engineering internship (in Hong Kong) and have nothing to show that I have any interest in accountancy.

    I also performed poorly at A-levels, especially in maths. Which is ironic considering I've aced all my uni maths exams.

    Does anyone have any experience of applying, successfully or not, to the Big 4 when coming from a similar place?
    I should add, I can probably only qualify for EY and PwC anyway given how many UCAS points i have...
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    I should add, I can probably only qualify for EY and PwC anyway given how many UCAS points i have...
    how many ucas points do you have?

    it's possible. Seen it happen MANY times.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    how many ucas points do you have?

    it's possible. Seen it happen MANY times.
    275 with a C in maths. I have a BTec worth 100 additional points but I'm not sure that counts.
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    275 with a C in maths. I have a BTec worth 100 additional points but I'm not sure that counts.
    Give it your best try. You have nothing to lose.
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    275 with a C in maths. I have a BTec worth 100 additional points but I'm not sure that counts.
    Nope sorry. Top three A-levels only afaik. Just bum EY and PwC hard, read as much in the accountancy press as you can, and understand what the job entails, career progression, qualifications
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    Nope sorry. Top three A-levels only afaik. Just bum EY and PwC hard, read as much in the accountancy press as you can, and understand what the job entails, career progression, qualifications
    Awk, I figured. I'll devote some time to researching them thoroughly this weekend, I figure they recruit on a rolling basis.

    Are there certain positions that are less competitive than others?
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    Awk, I figured. I'll devote some time to researching them thoroughly this weekend, I figure they recruit on a rolling basis.

    Are there certain positions that are less competitive than others?
    PwC audit is rolling outside London. London deadline is 30 Oct!

    EY is full for London but still open for most regions, I think there is a hard deadline of 31 Oct rather than rolling so get your skates on

    Audit vacancies do open up during the year though as there is some churn out of the job and people reneging on offers

    There are more specialised service lines for both that also offer ACA but I would have thought audit would be easiest to get into without experience
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    PwC audit is rolling outside London. London deadline is 30 Oct!

    EY is full for London but still open for most regions, I think there is a hard deadline of 31 Oct rather than rolling so get your skates on

    Audit vacancies do open up during the year though as there is some churn out of the job and people reneging on offers

    There are more specialised service lines for both that also offer ACA but I would have thought audit would be easiest to get into without experience
    Yeah, I was thinking audit/assurance. I'll be looking for positions outside London but thanks for letting me know!

    Perhaps I'll start my research sooner
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    Still give the others a go, if your degree makes up for your A-levels they may still consider you
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    I'm wondering how feasible it is to progress through the initial application stages (i.e. to an interview) with absolutely no finance/accounts experience in terms of employment or extra curriculars?

    I'm in my final year of MEng civil engineering at Loughborough and am on track for a first, however I've only completed an engineering internship (in Hong Kong) and have nothing to show that I have any interest in accountancy.

    I also performed poorly at A-levels, especially in maths. Which is ironic considering I've aced all my uni maths exams.

    Does anyone have any experience of applying, successfully or not, to the Big 4 when coming from a similar place?
    Why accountancy ? Just curious
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    (Original post by LukeIsIt)
    I'm wondering how feasible it is to progress through the initial application stages (i.e. to an interview) with absolutely no finance/accounts experience in terms of employment or extra curriculars?

    I'm in my final year of MEng civil engineering at Loughborough and am on track for a first, however I've only completed an engineering internship (in Hong Kong) and have nothing to show that I have any interest in accountancy.

    I also performed poorly at A-levels, especially in maths. Which is ironic considering I've aced all my uni maths exams.

    Does anyone have any experience of applying, successfully or not, to the Big 4 when coming from a similar place?
    Having been through the entire process for EY, I can only speak for them, but I imagine it will be the same at PwC.

    The EY Process consists of an online application form - 4 online tests - telephone interview - Assessment Centre - Partner Interview.

    Not having any finance-related work experience will not hinder you with EY. EY are a lot more interested in the natural strengths you have as a person, not how much work experience you have (something which top IB's seem to love) - everyone who applies gets sent the link for the 4 online tests, so no concerns there. It will be your performance in the tests which determine whether you get a telephone interview or not.

    Aslong as you have done some stuff in your life before (such as that engineering internship/played sport/had a job before etc) then you'll be fine for the interview. The Assessment Centre consists of a group exercise and written exercise, so nothing you've done before in your life matters at this stage, just your performance on the day. The Partner Interview is like the telephone interview, but much longer, and consists of a presentation that you have to prepare beforehand and deliver, so again, past experiences will help during the interview, but absolutely no requirement for finance-related work xp.

    Hope that helps, and if you have any questions please feel free to ask. Basically if you don't get EY, it'll be down to other factors, it won't be down to you not having any finance work experience
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    (Original post by bijesh12)
    Why accountancy ? Just curious
    Career progression, global opportunities, job security, ability to move into senior managerial roles once qualified, and also earning potential. To earn an equivalent salary in engineering I'd have to work in oil and gas which a) is in the ****ter right now and b) provides poor job security.

    Also, contrary to my high school results, I am very competent with mathematics and numerical problem solving. I was just a **** in school.
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    Having been through the entire process for EY, I can only speak for them, but I imagine it will be the same at PwC.

    The EY Process consists of an online application form - 4 online tests - telephone interview - Assessment Centre - Partner Interview.

    Not having any finance-related work experience will not hinder you with EY. EY are a lot more interested in the natural strengths you have as a person, not how much work experience you have (something which top IB's seem to love) - everyone who applies gets sent the link for the 4 online tests, so no concerns there. It will be your performance in the tests which determine whether you get a telephone interview or not.

    Aslong as you have done some stuff in your life before (such as that engineering internship/played sport/had a job before etc) then you'll be fine for the interview. The Assessment Centre consists of a group exercise and written exercise, so nothing you've done before in your life matters at this stage, just your performance on the day. The Partner Interview is like the telephone interview, but much longer, and consists of a presentation that you have to prepare beforehand and deliver, so again, past experiences will help during the interview, but absolutely no requirement for finance-related work xp.

    Hope that helps, and if you have any questions please feel free to ask. Basically if you don't get EY, it'll be down to other factors, it won't be down to you not having any finance work experience
    I unfortunately sat the EY tests without really preparing, thinking they'd be similar to engineering psychometric tests. I must have failed in meeting their desired strengths as the numerical test was relatively simple. I'm probably answering the questions with an engineering mindset as opposed to a business one .

    Do you have any advice with regards to personality traits they look for in these assessments? Gonna take my time preparing for PwC given that it's my only other option at the moment :adore:
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    I got in with no finance experience/internships or a relevant degree (came from a humanities background). It definitely is possible, just research well and practice your interview technique.
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    Dear LukeItIs,

    It is great that you are considering a career in accountancy.

    There more than 3,300 employers around the world who train the ACA. You can spread out your applications over a range of industries and different size employers to increase your chances.

    ICAEW have a website that specifically lists ACA opportunities called www.icaewtrainingvacancies.com. Visit it today and see which opportunities have the entry requirements which match your grades.

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    I just want to say that today I got an offer from EY UKI Audit and I did a chemistry degree and a scientific masters. In my AC there were people who were doing masters in accounting at Cambridge. Don't let it phase you. Do everything the best you can and you will be fine.
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    (Original post by countingsheep1)
    I just want to say that today I got an offer from EY UKI Audit and I did a chemistry degree and a scientific masters. In my AC there were people who were doing masters in accounting at Cambridge. Don't let it phase you. Do everything the best you can and you will be fine.
    Congratulations

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    (Original post by ICAEW Advisor Ashleigh)
    Congratulations

    Ashleigh
    Thank you very much.
    Now i just have your exams to look forward to.
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    (Original post by countingsheep1)
    I just want to say that today I got an offer from EY UKI Audit and I did a chemistry degree and a scientific masters. In my AC there were people who were doing masters in accounting at Cambridge. Don't let it phase you. Do everything the best you can and you will be fine.
    Thanks for the encouragement and congratulations!

    I have my first round interview with PwC coming up soon, any advice would be greatly appreciated .
 
 
 
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