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Is the UK full? Population to be 70 million before 2030 watch

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    UK population to top 70 million within 12 years;
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34666382

    These are maps of population density over time (including 2015);
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density

    Vote and discuss.


    EDIT;
    Here is what the university of Cambridge say on the matter;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-28003435
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    No we can fit a lot more in if we build the houses.
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    A higher population means that more schools, hospitals, roads, and houses will need to be built. Those who do not oppose immigration, do you care about the green space we have in this country. Why do we have to reach saturation point with immigration where we all will have a lower quality of life and where everywhere is grey?
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    The country is becoming a ghetto as it is at the moment people living and begging on the streets at every corner where's it all going to end
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    Certainly not full but as far as making decisions about immigration go, available land isn't the only factor. One has to take into account the rate at which schools, houses and hospitals (and thus how many doctors and nurses need to be trained) need to be built. With the schools, you could go further and point out that there's a shortage of maths and science teachers. With healthcare, you'd need to consider the current state of the NHS; most immigrants are unlikely to buy their own health insurance if they can get it for free on the NHS. And so on and so forth.
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    (Original post by United1892)
    No we can fit a lot more in if we build the houses.
    Okay, so where will these houses be built? On top of other houses? I think not. The only way to accommodate for the rapidly increasing population is to build on natural green space, reducing the amount of agricultural land available, destroying wildlife habitats and increasing global warming. Limiting immigration would be a good start to ensure further generations have a sustainable future.
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    (Original post by Bigdobber)
    The country is becoming a ghetto as it is at the moment people living and begging on the streets at every corner where's it all going to end
    Certainly none on my corner. Stop trying to derail the debate with emotional assertions.
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    Good. With people living longer we need more younger people to work and pay taxes.
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    (Original post by Smashby25)
    Okay, so where will these houses be built? On top of other houses? I think not. The only way to accommodate for the rapidly increasing population is to build on natural green space, reducing the amount of agricultural land available, destroying wildlife habitats and increasing global warming. Limiting immigration would be a good start to ensure further generations have a sustainable future.
    I agree with the underlined but would like to point out that not all accommodation needs to be houses. We can always invest in more apartment buildings in the cities,which would, quite literally, contain houses on top of other houses (if we use the term loosely). :lol:
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Good. With people living longer we need more younger people to work and pay taxes.
    And what happens when those younger people become old? Get even more younger people from other countries?
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    people are obsessed with having individual houses with individual gardens: a much more sensible model would be to have communal dwellings.
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    Not even close

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
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    (Original post by Smashby25)
    Okay, so where will these houses be built? On top of other houses? I think not. The only way to accommodate for the rapidly increasing population is to build on natural green space, reducing the amount of agricultural land available, destroying wildlife habitats and increasing global warming. Limiting immigration would be a good start to ensure further generations have a sustainable future.
    Almost 93% of the UK is not urban, with the percentage of woodland cover is at it's highest proportion since records begin on it in 1924. We have space.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    people are obsessed with having individual houses with individual gardens: a much more sensible model would be to have communal dwellings.
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    (Original post by Smashby25)
    Okay, so where will these houses be built? On top of other houses? I think not. The only way to accommodate for the rapidly increasing population is to build on natural green space, reducing the amount of agricultural land available, destroying wildlife habitats and increasing global warming. Limiting immigration would be a good start to ensure further generations have a sustainable future.
    The agricultural land already destroys wildlife habitats. Our cities are better for a lot fo wildlife than the green dessert that are sheep farms...

    Actually wildlife habitats and protected 'wild' lands are, well protected, they would not be built on. There is something soothing about green spaces, though ti would be depressing if this country was one big ****y concrete jungle though.
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    (Original post by United1892)
    Almost 93% of the UK is not urban, with the percentage of woodland cover is at it's highest proportion since records begin on it in 1924. We have space.
    Sure, we have space, but for how long? There has to be a time when the population needs serious consideration. If we keep on using this space, there is less of it. Then what? We can't build a bigger country.
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    (Original post by Smashby25)
    Sure, we have space, but for how long? There has to be a time when the population needs serious consideration. If we keep on using this space, there is less of it. Then what? We can't build a bigger country.
    We have 63 million people and still have 93% which is pretty much spare. An increase of 11% isn't going to massively affect this.
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    It's not full, but I would hate to live in a country which is just a concrete jungle of apartment buildings.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    The agricultural land already destroys wildlife habitats. Our cities are better for a lot fo wildlife than the green dessert that are sheep farms...

    Actually wildlife habitats and protected 'wild' lands are, well protected, they would not be built on. There is something soothing about green spaces, though ti would be depressing if this country was one big ****y concrete jungle though.
    I agree that some species thrive in urban areas, but not all.
    How long would these protected areas be protected? In many years, if the population has increased so much that there is a desperate need for new houses, do you think people would care about protecting rural areas?
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    And what happens when those younger people become old? Get even more younger people from other countries?

    Not if they have enough children.

    Which apparently they will be.
 
 
 
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