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    Transcript from ChunkyMark Artist Taxi Driver on You Tube.

    Food costs money so does oil and debt. You know sucking on the charlie George. Wheres the charlie George? The real addiction, the real disease, the killer drug spiraling, speed balling bloody debt!

    Household bloody debt about to crash the bloody economy. You know banks giving out bloody crack cards, high street crack loans, banks offering 28% extra to keep your kids bloody warm & fed wearing shoes made by child slaves made in bloody IIndonesia & China!

    You know the cocaine of the rich is greed. Greed, power, money; the excesses of life. The empty hole, a bottomless bloody pit. You know a void, a void of Katie Hopkins, David Cameron, George Osborne show me the bodies I still don't care with their looney bloody etons and Ian Duncan Smith show me the bodies let me see them dead crawling on the floor looking for a bit you might of chipped off earlier in a carpet so dirty so covered in speckle it could be the entire (f word) galaxy. Every single star and it still wouldn't be enough for them. They would still be looking for one more. Ride the bloody monkey, ride the monkey snort-inhale-snort-inhale-snort
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    Transcript from ChunkyMark Artist Taxi Driver on You Tube.

    Food costs money so does oil and debt. You know sucking on the charlie George. Wheres the charlie George? The real addiction, the real disease, the killer drug spiraling, speed balling bloody debt!

    Household bloody debt about to crash the bloody economy. You know banks giving out bloody crack cards, high street crack loans, banks offering 28% extra to keep your kids bloody warm & fed wearing shoes made by child slaves made in bloody IIndonesia & China!

    You know the cocaine of the rich is greed. Greed, power, money; the excesses of life. The empty hole, a bottomless bloody pit. You know a void, a void of Katie Hopkins, David Cameron, George Osborne show me the bodies I still don't care with their looney bloody etons and Ian Duncan Smith show me the bodies let me see them dead crawling on the floor looking for a bit you might of chipped off earlier in a carpet so dirty so covered in speckle it could be the entire (f word) galaxy. Every single star and it still wouldn't be enough for them. They would still be looking for one more. Ride the bloody monkey, ride the monkey snort-inhale-snort-inhale-snort
    Interest rates or QE will bring about the next depression!
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    Gold star if anyone tells me how many times the word 'blood' has appeared in OP!
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    Gold star if anyone tells me how many times the word 'blood' has appeared in OP!
    9!
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    lol thought that said 'reich' too much history methinks
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    9!
    DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! :ahee:
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    You know the cocaine of the rich is greed.
    Yet you're saying everyone is addicted to consumer borrowing. At least be consistent.

    In reality, no-one forces anyone to offer or take on credit. People just like nice things. But again, you manage to turn this into an unhinged rant.

    Oh, and I find this peculiar left-wing obsession about cabinet ministers' suggested drug use at university all quite baffling. Seriously, did none of you have a youth? Do you really think anyone in this day and age cares whether or not politicians took some drugs at parties in their youth?
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    Transcript from ChunkyMark Artist Taxi Driver on You Tube.

    Food costs money so does oil and debt. You know sucking on the charlie George. Wheres the charlie George? The real addiction, the real disease, the killer drug spiraling, speed balling bloody debt!

    Household bloody debt about to crash the bloody economy. You know banks giving out bloody crack cards, high street crack loans, banks offering 28% extra to keep your kids bloody warm & fed wearing shoes made by child slaves made in bloody IIndonesia & China!

    You know the cocaine of the rich is greed. Greed, power, money; the excesses of life. The empty hole, a bottomless bloody pit. You know a void, a void of Katie Hopkins, David Cameron, George Osborne show me the bodies I still don't care with their looney bloody etons and Ian Duncan Smith show me the bodies let me see them dead crawling on the floor looking for a bit you might of chipped off earlier in a carpet so dirty so covered in speckle it could be the entire (f word) galaxy. Every single star and it still wouldn't be enough for them. They would still be looking for one more. Ride the bloody monkey, ride the monkey snort-inhale-snort-inhale-snort
    Well aren't you're in a pleasant mood tonight...
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    I agree with the general principle but....is this guy high or something?
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    Since this thread is nothing about political reform or anything truly meaningful but instead just divisive comments (well the OP at least), I will weigh in with the right wing equivalent;
    Looking around many cities in the UK and in particular council estates I think it is actually the rich who are subsidising the poor by providing free homes, free iphones, free **** and booze (also drugs) to be consumed all day, etc.
    All of this is given without expecting a day of work in return. I could go on. So I will.

    The poorer are able to have kids and get a larger house from the council, no need for many years of work or a mortgage. Just open your legs, lie flat on your back and allow one of the many local chavs (identified by tracksuits every day of the week) knock you up. Of course, you will not be with said father by the time the kid is born (then again why stay with him and have a stable family? Save a bedroom and dump the father or more accurately fathers of your children). You can then get paid in tax credits, so get paid from the taxes of others for having kids.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    Since this thread is nothing about political reform or anything truly meaningful but instead just divisive comments (well the OP at least), I will weigh in with the right wing equivalent;
    Looking around many cities in the UK and in particular council estates I think it is actually the rich who are subsidising the poor by providing free homes, free iphones, free **** and booze (also drugs) to be consumed all day, etc.
    All of this is given without expecting a day of work in return. I could go on. So I will.

    The poorer are able to have kids and get a larger house from the council, no need for many years of work or a mortgage. Just open your legs, lie flat on your back and allow one of the many local chavs (identified by tracksuits every day of the week) knock you up. Of course, you will not be with said father by the time the kid is born (then again why stay with him and have a stable family? Save a bedroom and dump the father or more accurately fathers of your children). You can then get paid in tax credits, so get paid from the taxes of others for having kids.
    I think this guy wins the argument for today.

    Thank you and good night, Terry.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    Since this thread is nothing about political reform or anything truly meaningful but instead just divisive comments (well the OP at least), I will weigh in with the right wing equivalent;
    Looking around many cities in the UK and in particular council estates I think it is actually the rich who are subsidising the poor by providing free homes, free iphones, free **** and booze (also drugs) to be consumed all day, etc.
    All of this is given without expecting a day of work in return. I could go on. So I will.

    The poorer are able to have kids and get a larger house from the council, no need for many years of work or a mortgage. Just open your legs, lie flat on your back and allow one of the many local chavs (identified by tracksuits every day of the week) knock you up. Of course, you will not be with said father by the time the kid is born (then again why stay with him and have a stable family? Save a bedroom and dump the father or more accurately fathers of your children). You can then get paid in tax credits, so get paid from the taxes of others for having kids.
    The idea that the rich are subsidizing the poor is just a simpleton view which appeals to ignorant people. Those who have eyes to see and ears to listen can learn a different idea. That idea is Georgism.

    The truth is the opposite. The poor contribute more than the rich because they do not own a stake in UK PLC where as the rich do own a stake in UK PLC.

    The top earners in this country get all their tax contributions returned to them in the form of housing speculation and during boom periods it is possible to get a life time tax contributions back in the form of house price growth.

    There for the net balance of tax contribution leans more towards the middle class & well off working class.

    But not everyone can be part of the Conservative parties home owning democracy & also benefit from increasing house prices . The fact is that there is a limited amount of homes across the UK which have high growth rates in periods of economic boom. These are those in attractive London borough's and those which surround our nations most prized landmarks.

    And also as you move away from big cities the rate of capital gain decreases. The only thing which doesn't increase and keeps rising is house prices across the UK which stops the ordinary worker from being able to afford a home.

    The fact is that the Conservative party idea of a home owning democracy is nothing more than a sham!

    Think about it! They need constant scarcity & demand to keep their bubble growing which fuels their monetary gains.

    95% Loan to Value Mortgages + Help to Buy + Help to Buy ISA + Right to Buy.
    Recessions every generation to get mortgage holders to default and then Property developers buy foreclosed property up really cheap.
    Huge Student Loans funneling money into Universities and increasing house prices around Universities.
    Quantitative Easing money of 375 Billion being put into the financial markets to prop up financial assets.

    Its all part of the scam!

    But there is a huge threat to this bubble and that is social housing, banking regulations and free university education all championed by Jeremy Corbyn. This is why the Thatcherites are scared of Jeremy Corbyn and have to result to lame insults about Socialism.

    But the thing is this idea about the rich manipulating property prices is nothing new & those like myself aren't entirely limited to the left-wing! You should know that Winston Churchill saw the evils of land monopoly before WW2 when he gave a great speech in the house of commons on the 4th March 1909 . Yes the great Winston Churchill was a visionary about the injustices land ownership can create!

    The speech is here.

    http://www.landvaluetax.org/current-...en-we-can.html

    Land monopoly is in my opinion the biggest cause of inequality in developed nations.

    So your view that the rich pay for everything is nothing more than a flawed statement.

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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    The idea that the rich are subsidizing the poor is just a simpleton view which appeals to ignorant people. Those who have eyes to see and ears to listen can learn a different idea. That idea is Georgism.

    The truth is the opposite. The poor contribute more than the rich because they do not own a stake in UK PLC where as the rich do own a stake in UK PLC.

    The top earners in this country get all their tax contributions returned to them in the form of housing speculation and during boom periods it is possible to get a life time tax contributions back in the form of house price growth.

    There for the net balance of tax contribution leans more towards the middle class & well off working class.

    But not everyone can be part of the Conservative parties home owning democracy & also benefit from increasing house prices . The fact is that there is a limited amount of homes across the UK which have high growth rates in periods of economic boom. These are those in attractive London borough's and those which surround our nations most prized landmarks.

    And also as you move away from big cities the rate of capital gain decreases. The only thing which doesn't increase and keeps rising is house prices across the UK which stops the ordinary worker from being able to afford a home.

    The fact is that the Conservative party idea of a home owning democracy is nothing more than a sham!

    Think about it! They need constant scarcity & demand to keep their bubble growing which fuels their monetary gains.

    95% Loan to Value Mortgages + Help to Buy + Help to Buy ISA + Right to Buy.
    Recessions every generation to get mortgage holders to default and then Property developers buy foreclosed property up really cheap.
    Huge Student Loans funneling money into Universities and increasing house prices around Universities.
    Quantitative Easing money of 375 Billion being put into the financial markets to prop up financial assets.

    Its all part of the scam!

    But there is a huge threat to this bubble and that is social housing, banking regulations and free university education all championed by Jeremy Corbyn. This is why the Thatcherites are scared of Jeremy Corbyn and have to result to lame insults about Socialism.

    But the thing is this idea about the rich manipulating property prices is nothing new & those like myself aren't entirely limited to the left-wing! You should know that Winston Churchill saw the evils of land monopoly before WW2 when he gave a great speech in the house of commons on the 4th March 1909 . Yes the great Winston Churchill was a visionary about the injustices land ownership can create!

    The speech is here.

    http://www.landvaluetax.org/current-...en-we-can.html

    Land monopoly is in my opinion the biggest cause of inequality in developed nations.

    So your view that the rich pay for everything is nothing more than a flawed statement.

    we should never tax land, it is god given!
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    we should never tax land, it is god given!
    The pitch forks are rising my friend. The Norman privilege is going to be swept away soon. Either change, adapt, be more productive and be as many as you can be or downsize to a level which you can afford in harmony with other beings on this world.

    Your greed & resistance to the needs of the masses will be your own downfall.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    The idea that the rich are subsidizing the poor is just a simpleton view which appeals to ignorant people. Those who have eyes to see and ears to listen can learn a different idea. That idea is Georgism.

    You know you have no point when you immediately start saying stuff like this. When you accuse anyone who disagrees with you as a "simpleton" then you are probably the simpleton.
    I have seen it a lot from the left on here; anyone who disagrees with their Corbynomics is simply misguided or too stupid to get it. Even when Labour lost the election their MP's were saying that the message they gave was fine, but the evil media were against them and the public too stupid to see the truth.
    It would annoy me, but these kind of arrogant lefties are completely irrelevant on politics so who cares.

    The truth is the opposite. The poor contribute more than the rich because they do not own a stake in UK PLC where as the rich do own a stake in UK PLC.

    Yeah, get into an essay about this all you like but you haven't even defined rich or poor. Is rich someone in the top 1%? Someone on over £100k a year? Top tax bracket? I imagine that you don't even actually care-just bash anyone with more money than yourself is the general theme I personally get from your threads.

    The top earners in this country get all their tax contributions returned to them in the form of housing speculation and during boom periods it is possible to get a life time tax contributions back in the form of house price growth.
    Actually anyone who knows anything about economics knows that this is a reason why the poorer in society lose out; house prices. The poor and middle classes have their wealth defined by their home; this may go up, but after a crash if falls. Their wealth is very low now. The wealthier for a variety of reasons I can't be bothered to list don't get his so hard. That is how this happens;
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/...h-since-crisis

    So simply put nice speech about house prices, but it is factually incorrect. I can namedrop a few economists whose books you can read on the topic if you like. The reason I am being so harsh is because this shows you will find ANY agenda to bash the rich even if it is actually completely false, completely the opposite of the truth.

    There for the net balance of tax contribution leans more towards the middle class & well off working class.

    But not everyone can be part of the Conservative parties home owning democracy & also benefit from increasing house prices . The fact is that there is a limited amount of homes across the UK which have high growth rates in periods of economic boom. These are those in attractive London borough's and those which surround our nations most prized landmarks.

    And also as you move away from big cities the rate of capital gain decreases. The only thing which doesn't increase and keeps rising is house prices across the UK which stops the ordinary worker from being able to afford a home.

    The fact is that the Conservative party idea of a home owning democracy is nothing more than a sham!

    Think about it! They need constant scarcity & demand to keep their bubble growing which fuels their monetary gains.

    95% Loan to Value Mortgages + Help to Buy + Help to Buy ISA + Right to Buy.
    Recessions every generation to get mortgage holders to default and then Property developers buy foreclosed property up really cheap.
    Huge Student Loans funneling money into Universities and increasing house prices around Universities.
    Quantitative Easing money of 375 Billion being put into the financial markets to prop up financial assets.

    Its all part of the scam!

    But there is a huge threat to this bubble and that is social housing, banking regulations and free university education all championed by Jeremy Corbyn. This is why the Thatcherites are scared of Jeremy Corbyn and have to result to lame insults about Socialism.

    But the thing is this idea about the rich manipulating property prices is nothing new & those like myself aren't entirely limited to the left-wing! You should know that Winston Churchill saw the evils of land monopoly before WW2 when he gave a great speech in the house of commons on the 4th March 1909 . Yes the great Winston Churchill was a visionary about the injustices land ownership can create!

    The speech is here.

    http://www.landvaluetax.org/current-...en-we-can.html

    Land monopoly is in my opinion the biggest cause of inequality in developed nations.

    So your view that the rich pay for everything is nothing more than a flawed statement.

    I stopped reading your post after my bit in bold. Like the rest of your threads you will bash the rich with any stick you can find regardless of the truth. I have no problem with left wing people, I find the work left wing economists interesting to read; however, in my view the left who just bash the rich regardless of the truth (you) out of sheer jealousy are just as bad as some of the right who have no moral values whatsoever.
    I don't disagree about QE, etc etc but I disagree with your refusal to see the truth and happiness to lie to even yourself. And no, my post wasn't my view, it was just demonstrating how tired out left against right politics and class warfare is not helpful and quickly descends into bashing the rich/poor without getting any closer to the truth or discussing policy.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    we should never tax land, it is god given!
    On the contrary it's basically the only thing we should tax. At least other unearned income like dividends has activity on the supply side and an issue in raising capital helps things get done. Not so with land.

    The other major use for the tax code and other aspects of commercial law should be to give small British domiciled businesses a material advantage over large multinationals.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    The pitch forks are rising my friend. The Norman privilege is going to be swept away soon. Either change, adapt, be more productive and be as many as you can be or downsize to a level which you can afford in harmony with other beings on this world.

    Your greed & resistance to the needs of the masses will be your own downfall.
    The masses who comprehensively rejected the left last election. The masses who will reject Corbyn even more this election. Not even Scotland will want him.

    The masses across Europe who are lurching to the right. The left have been predicting the "pitch forks rising" since before I was born; in reality the far left haven't achieved any real change because no one in the country wants what they offer. Most people are not left wing.

    Blair tried to tell Labour that the center ground was where you had to be, that the public was generally center, but what does this guy know about winning elections?

    The left so far have behaved like hooligans, throwing eggs at Tory conferences and trashing a small cereal bar but I don't think any great leaders seized power off attacking the establishment headquarters that is a lone cereal bar which promptly opened the next day,
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    I stopped reading your post after my bit in bold. Like the rest of your threads you will bash the rich with any stick you can find regardless of the truth. I have no problem with left wing people, I find the work left wing economists interesting to read; however, in my view the left who just bash the rich regardless of the truth (you) out of sheer jealousy are just as bad as some of the right who have no moral values whatsoever.
    I don't disagree about QE, etc etc but I disagree with your refusal to see the truth and happiness to lie to even yourself. And no, my post wasn't my view, it was just demonstrating how tired out left against right politics and class warfare is not helpful and quickly descends into bashing the rich/poor without getting any closer to the truth or discussing policy.
    This isn't really him bashing the rich that I can see, just pointing out the way they entrench their wealth and power. This is not the sort of thing it's worth "bashing the rich" for: anyone in their position would do the same, and that's basically the reason why we need a strong democratic state that can *legislate* against moral hazard. How can you trust people not to pursue self-interest? It's simple game theory.

    I wonder if your problem is with the dichotomising of rich and poor. I therefore offer you this simple beginner's guide to which is which: the rich are those who own assets which/whose income they do not use for themselves, the middle class own assets which/whose income they do use for themselves and the lower class own no assets at all. Like it or not, we are not a classless society nor an equal opportunities one nor a meritocratic one.
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    (Original post by i<3milkshake)
    The masses who comprehensively rejected the left last election. The masses who will reject Corbyn even more this election. Not even Scotland will want him.

    The masses across Europe who are lurching to the right. The left have been predicting the "pitch forks rising" since before I was born; in reality the far left haven't achieved any real change because no one in the country wants what they offer. Most people are not left wing.

    Blair tried to tell Labour that the center ground was where you had to be, that the public was generally center, but what does this guy know about winning elections?

    The left so far have behaved like hooligans, throwing eggs at Tory conferences and trashing a small cereal bar but I don't think any great leaders seized power off attacking the establishment headquarters that is a lone cereal bar which promptly opened the next day,
    Who now is engaging in childish left right finger pointing? Please, you're an intelligent chap, stop with this confected outrage at "violent" protesters.

    When an egg was thrown at John Prescott it was all a big joke, he laughed, the country laughed. How childish we have become since then.

    You will be aware that these egg-throwers represented 0.005% of the protesters, let alone those with far left views, let alone the Corbyn faction, let alone "the left" as a whole.

    Even aside from that you're such a big baby getting worked up over an egg. You don't know you're born: in previous decades it was mortars. I personally am far more concerned about the ring of steel and the snipers scoping out the protest from neighbouring rooftops!

    This kind of diatribe is no better than "bashing the rich" and completely detracts from reasonable points you make.
 
 
 
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