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1. I don't really understand what these are and how you get them? Is there something lower than 2.1 or is that a fail?
2. (Original post by anitsirk)
I don't really understand what these are and how you get them? Is there something lower than 2.1 or is that a fail?
(Generally)

70%+ is a first
60%+ is a 2:1
50%+ is a 2:2
40+ is a 3rd
below 40% is a fail
3. Lol no its called a 2.2, I shall elaborate.
1st is 70% or higher and is like an A
2.1 is 60% or higher and is like a B
2.2 is 50% or higher and is like a C
Third is 40% or higher and is like a D, but not many employers consider a third, a third is basically like a fail its very unlikely to get anywhere with a third.

2.2 is 50/50 you may be able to get something but since a lot of graduates get 2.1s its overruled. You also generally need a 2.1 for some graduate schemes. A 2.1 is brilliant definatley something to be proud of.
Lol no its called a 2.2, I shall elaborate.
1st is 70% or higher and is like an A
2.1 is 60% or higher and is like a B
2.2 is 50% or higher and is like a C
Third is 40% or higher and is like a D, but not many employers consider a third, a third is basically like a fail its very unlikely to get anywhere with a third.

2.2 is 50/50 you may be able to get something but since a lot of graduates get 2.1s its overruled. You also generally need a 2.1 for some graduate schemes. A 2.1 is brilliant definatley something to be proud of.
How can a person be proud of 2:1 when actually if you look at universities' statistics, over 70 % of graduates get 2:1s? It is obviously enough for most employers, but really a 1st is the only classification you can be proud of as very few people get it. So many people get 2:1s that it became more like a C at a-level (just average, nothing great or exceptional).
5. (Original post by 0123456543210)
How can a person be proud of 2:1 when actually if you look at universities' statistics, over 70 % of graduates get 2:1s. It is obviously enough for most employers, but really a 1st is something to be proud of as very few people get it.
It's not as easy as you think.
6. (Original post by SeanFM)
It's not as easy as you think.
It may not be easy, but looking objectively most of the people achieve it, so it is nothing special.
7. (Original post by 0123456543210)
How can a person be proud of 2:1 when actually if you look at universities' statistics, over 70 % of graduates get 2:1s? It is obviously enough for most employers, but really a 1st is the only classification you can be proud of as very few people get it. So many people get 2:1s that it became more like a C at a-level (just average, nothing great or exceptional).
I suppose buts its better than a 2.2. You can also get into the decent graduate schemes with a 2.1
8. (Original post by 0123456543210)
How can a person be proud of 2:1 when actually if you look at universities' statistics, over 70 % of graduates get 2:1s? It is obviously enough for most employers, but really a 1st is the only classification you can be proud of as very few people get it. So many people get 2:1s that it became more like a C at a-level (just average, nothing great or exceptional).
Well, if you get 69.5%, that's totally different from scraping 60%.

The problem with calling a 2:1 the equivalent of any particular grade is that most students fall within the 2:1 range, and there's clearly a massive difference within it.

It also depends what the degree is.

But I agree that it's nothing 'special'.
9. because a 2:1 is still a good grade, and for many people its the best they can achieve

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