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Lost Over 120lbs. Why am I not happy?

I used to be morbidly obese. At my heighest weight I was 268lbs. I am a little over 5'4. I had been teased mercilessly throughout school and had no friends. The doctors were ready to give up on me and recommend me for bariatric surgery. I insisted I never overate, but nobody listened. They laughed and accused me of being a liar. Come to find out, my thyroid was extremely underactive and hormones offbalance. I was put on medication. By this time, the years of verbal amuse had me afraid to leave the house out of fear of being publically ridiculed. I slipped into depression about the same time I started losing weight. I helped the weight loss along by severely limiting what I ate to mostly cut-up white breast of chicken and oyster crackers each meal. Because of that, most days I was too lethargic to do very much but I made sure to use what little energy I had to exercise 30 minutes every day.

For a year I kept myself hidden from the public outside of school. I would go for walks in forests and off beaten roads for air. I couldn't bare to be seen. I turned down all of my offers for uni as I was afraid to be noticed by people my own age. It's two years later. I now weigh afew pounds under 130lbs. I have grotesque amounts of flesh hanging off me that has lost its ability to re-elastize. (at least 10lbs worth according to doctors, putting my actual weight more at 120). I can see my collarbones and hip bones and trace the outline of my ribs. They're saying I should go for surgery to get the skin removed. The doctors are afraid I'm going to develop an eating disorder because it distorts how I look and makes me think I still have more weight to lose. I'm afraid I'll die if I go for the surgery as a parent of mine did when in surgery for getting cancer removed afew years ago. But with the bags of flesh around my hips, I'm still that fat girl I used to be. The other day I was walking and two prettier girls were behind me talking about a friend of theirs. One asked the other 'what does she look like?' The other replied 'oh, she's quite big, like that girl'. I just knew they were talking about me. I went home and cried. That was a month ago and it still haunts me. I started dieting again after that.

Today I got carb-cravings (it's my period) and think I overate. I had a bowl of noodles and picked out individual pieces of cornflakes for a half hour. I cried again. I don't know what to do. I worked so hard and have come so far from where I was, but I'm still not good enough. I don't know if I'll ever be normal. I'm too scared to be obese again, but I'm not happy with how I am. Outside my clothes I look disfigured. In them, I'm apparently not much better. I can't hold down a relationship without worrying, what will happen when they want to take it further? I can't let them see me like this, how I really look.. What more can I do?? I just want to be like everyone else......

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Reply 1
If I were you I would consider the surgery to remove some of the skin. It is for your own health really. Sorry to hear about your parent but cancer surgery is more serious than surgery to remove skin. Then arent exactly going to be poking around inside you. If it makes you feel any better your BMI is well within the boundries of "normal weight".

*hugs* btw.
Reply 2
I would get the surgery. I'm so sorry to hear about the parent you lost, but please be assured that the risks involved with a standard GA are pretty minimal, and the process of removing the excess skin would be non-invasive. I think it would improve your self esteem no end. In the meantime, do you have any friends at all? If you do, get them to write a list of all the things they love about you, so you can look at it when you feel down. I would also add to this list with things you DO like about your appearance. If you dont, I would start getting out there and making some, ready for the "new you". Join a club, take up a new hobby or something so you meet like minded people, and be as open and friendly as you can. I find people are far less inclined to be nasty about the looks of someone who has been unwaveringly nice to them. It's fickle but it's true. The more support you have around you, the less likely it will be that you'll get upset about the comments of the narrow minded few. Good luck x
120lbs? ****ing incredible, get the surgery so that it really pays off.
Reply 4
How come your skin hasn't "shrunk" in the two-year time frame? Did you lose the weight too quickly? Forgive my ignorance. (Congratulations on shifting the weight by the way. I've got about 60lbs to lose myself.)
Reply 5
So what's that put you at now, about 8 1/2 stone? You're definitely not 'fat' although, like the others have mentioned, that excess skin seems to be providing a false outlook.

It's quite easy for me to say, but imo you should consider the surgery - it's for your benefit really and I don't see any other way round it unless you come to accept your figure.
Reply 6
If you don't want to have a surgery. What you need to do is weight training and eating a healthy diet with emphasis on proteins.


ic1male
How come your skin hasn't "shrunk" in the two-year time frame? Did you lose the weight too quickly? Forgive my ignorance. (Congratulations on shifting the weight by the way. I've got about 60lbs to lose myself.)


Everyone has fat under the skin. Hers is making it impossible for the skin to go back to it's original shape. She could take the easy way and have a surgery and be okay in a couple of months or do the hard way and build muscles and getting rid of most of the fat under the skin.

If i was here i would take the surgery. Less hassle with just a few months of feeling terrible. After the scars are gone you can do what ever you want. All though i doubt that is going to happen. Your weight would have left you with mental issues.
Reply 7
Losing 120lb is an amazing achievement. You should be proud of yourself for that.

As for the excess skin, you've been offered surgery, and this would help you see your 120lb weight loss as a beautiful thing. There are risks with any type of surgery, that's true, but in your case... Minimal. Considering the tiny practically non-existent risk, and considering what a boost to your self confidence the results would be... Go for it.

And be careful not to lose too much weight. It's easy to get carried away.

*hugs*
Reply 8
lamenter
Everyone has fat under the skin. Hers is making it impossible for the skin to go back to it's original shape. She could take the easy way and have a surgery and be okay in a couple of months or do the hard way and build muscles and getting rid of most of the fat under the skin.


Not fat under the skin. Just skin. Once skin has been stretched to a point for an extended time it can't reshape itself. Some people have enough elasticity to recover some of the original form, but past a certain plateau it won't reshape, leaving it to bunch and hang off your bones. Look at the necks of older people. Although thin, the skin appears to be wrinkled and sagging. That is because the elasticity has been worn away. Muscle training can't fix it as the muscle is beneath the skin, not above it, so while it could give the empty skin a fuller look, with the amount of excess skin being so great the amount is negigible. You would not be able to see the progress. I lifted weights as part of my exercise regime. I have solid muscles but they're concealed beneath the mass of flesh. It was one of the most disheartening parts of the weight loss..
Reply 9
Anonymous
Not fat under the skin. Just skin. Once skin has been stretched to a point for an extended time it can't reshape itself. Some people have enough elasticity to recover some of the original form, but past a certain plateau it won't reshape, leaving it to bunch and hang off your bones. Look at the necks of older people. Although thin, the skin appears to be wrinkled and sagging. That is because the elasticity has been worn away. Muscle training can't fix it as the muscle is beneath the skin, not above it, so while it could give the empty skin a fuller look, with the amount of excess skin being so great the amount is negigible. You would not be able to see the progress. I lifted weights as part of my exercise regime. I have solid muscles but they're concealed beneath the mass of flesh. It was one of the most disheartening parts of the weight loss..


Bull. I have seen the skins of people who were 300+ and lost about 150 pounds in a year due to stomach surgeries. I can tell you. Loose skin is not skin without fat.

If they were they would look like eyelids. Imagine having thin see through skin? That would be deeply disturbing. The reason why i suggested weight training was to burn off the fat and to regain the muscle she lost. Tell the OP to measure her body fat %.
Reply 10
Definition of obesity: The condition of being obese; increased body weight caused by excessive accumulation of fat.

BMI of 5'4 with weight of 128 = 22
BMI of 5'4 with weight of 120 = 20.6

The body fat percentile may still need adjustment for ideal, but to say that is obese is hurtful and wrong.

Reference: http://www.plasticsurgery.org/media/press_releases/Modified-Body-Contouring.cfm
"Many post-bariatric surgery patients experience an extreme loss in skin elasticity that leads them to have body contouring procedures, which greatly differ from contouring procedures performed on normal weight patients. After contouring, these patients’ skin will still loosen and sag much faster with age, according to Jeffrey M. Kenkel, MD, chair of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) Post-Bariatric Task Force. Dr. Kenkel will moderate a panel today discussing how post-bariatric plastic surgery differs from standard body contouring techniques at the ASPS Plastic Surgery 2004 conference in Philadelphia.

“When a person loses a large amount of weight in a short period of time, particularly after bariatric surgery, the person has large amounts of extra skin,” said Dr. Kenkel. “Bariatric surgery isn’t just a commitment to weight loss. It often requires an additional two years of body contouring surgeries to help the patient’s skin fit his or her new body.”

“The skin and tissue from a gastric bypass patient is different from healthy normal weight patients,” continued Dr. Kenkel. “With post-bariatric patients, their tissue is permanently damaged from being stretched to such an extreme. It has lost its ability to maintain tightness or tone to some degree. Even though we can make the skin fit the body again through plastic surgery, these patients’ skin will loosen much faster than patients with normal skin.”
Reply 11
Everyone NEEDS some fat - sure she might have fat under the loose skin anyway - but that doesn't make her obese. Fat is essential to the body.

And to the OP - if it's any consolation, I'm 130 pounds myself :biggrin: Sure I know I'm slightly overweight, but I've only ever been told that I'm slim or that I look proportional and whenever I tell people I'm actually overweight, they're always in disbelief. So basically my point is, 130Ibs is a perfectly normal weight. The best thing to do would be to take your doctors' advice and get the surgery done, then probably follow whatever diet your doctors suggest to help you maintain a good weight and stay healthy. Once the loose skin comes off, you'll notice that you look better. First step to get some confidence will probably be just to go out. Nothing special - just a normal top and trousers - and as soon as you realise that people do not notice you as fat, and indeed some might even tell you that you're slim, you'll come to realise you don't look as bad as you make yourself believe/feel. And when you feel better about yourself, you can then start to progress in your confidence. People wanna stare? Let them stare. For all you know, they could well be staring because they think you look good or that you look stunning.

:hugs: Well done on the weight loss btw. Don't let this weight thing rule your life and go to university! Even if you're not so confident physically-speaking, if you become knowledgeable, your sense of achievement will boost your confidence at least with regards to your intellect - and knowing that you're clever and you can't be fooled is always a good confidence booster :smile:
Reply 12
Anonymous

BMI of 5'4 with weight of 128 = 22
BMI of 5'4 with weight of 120 = 20.6


...and obese is a BMI of 30+. Overweight is 25-30. You are normal.
Reply 13
OP, sounds like you need the surgery if you will ever be happy with yourself.. Tell the doctors why you are scared and they will make every effort to reassure you and, like every other patient, make sure you are ok.

My dad died after he had surgery but that wouldn't put me off having it if I needed it.
Reply 14
I have been getting neg repped because of my post. :rolleyes: I think they need to know what obesity really means.

It's not how much weigh. A muscled man can have a BMI of 50. Would you call him obese? :rolleyes: Obesity is when the level of your body fat % is high. A thin person can be obese. So can fat person. The only difference is that fat people are more obvious and they require more fat to become obese.


The body fat percentile may still need adjustment for ideal, but to say that is obese is hurtful and wrong.


It's not aimed at insulting you. I am telling you the truth. You came to this forum asking for help. Do you really think it would help if you put your head in the sand.

Your using weight and height to get a BMI score. Well guess what? It doesn't disprove if your obese or not. Your post is more helpful then a BMI score.

I used to be morbidly obese. At my heighest weight I was 268lbs. I am a little over 5'4. I slipped into depression about the same time I started losing weight. I helped the weight loss along by severely limiting what I ate to mostly cut-up white breast of chicken and oyster crackers each meal. Because of that, most days I was too lethargic to do very much but I made sure to use what little energy I had to exercise 30 minutes every day.

I couldn't bare to be seen.afew pounds under 130lbs. I have grotesque amounts of flesh hanging off me that has lost its ability to re-elastize. (at least 10lbs worth according to doctors, putting my actual weight more at 120). I can see my collarbones and hip bones and trace the outline of my ribs. They're saying I should go for surgery to get the skin removed. The doctors are afraid I'm going to develop an eating disorder because it distorts how I look and makes me think I still have more weight to lose. But with the bags of flesh around my hips, One asked the other 'what does she look like?' The other replied 'oh, she's quite big, like that girl'. I just knew they were talking about me. I went home and cried. That was a month ago and it still haunts me. I started dieting again after that.

Today I got carb-cravings (it's my period) and think I overate. I had a bowl of noodles and picked out individual pieces of cornflakes for a half hour.


That entire post tells me that you didn't eat properly which means that a lot of the weight that you lost included muscle. You don't get lethargic by eating enough food. You get it when you starve.

Exercising 30 minutes a day will not make you lose 120 pounds. If you could lose that amount of weight people wouldn't need gyms. I have been walking to my school and college for the past 5 years. The journey usually takes about 45 to 60 minutes one way. I should extremely thin by now.

Your skin doesn't lose elasticity unless you happen to be way way older then a student. If your skin is alive then it should always be elastic. Look at old people. There skin have lost elasticity (they still have it but it's reduced) and they have wrinkles. Do you have wrinkles like old people? I personally doubt it. The skin only hangs out because there is still a substantial amount of fat there.


p.s. having your skin cut off is different from having cancer taken out and if you do have the surgery. Do weight lifting. It will not only help tone your body but it will make getting fat harder.
Not necessarily, lamenter, your body only starts breaking down the muscles once you've lost practically all the fat off your body. And at the time the OP was overweight to I expect that no muscle would be affected.

Also when someone loses 20 or 30 pounds their skin is elastic enough to deal with it. She lost 130 pounds that is my entire body weight, I doubt most peoples skin elasticity could deal with that very well at all. She should definitely get the operation, no amount of toning will get the skin back to normal.
Reply 16
OP, have you seen a GP about this? They will be able to tell you how to solve this :smile: I suggest you see yours ASAP
To the OP, have you asked your GP about having some form of counselling to help you deal with your feelings and discuss some of the problems you're having now? You've suffered terribly years and that seems to be affecting you a lot. I'm not saying don't have the surgery (in the long run, that might be a good idea) but if you're still miserable inside then just changing the outside isn't going to make you feel any better (as I'm sure you've already found out). Equally, food still seems to be a major issue with you and perhaps you need to talk to someone about that. Considering that your doctors see you as being at risk of an ED it seems unprofessional not to have recommended some help for you.

Loosing a load of weight is a huge achievement, but sometimes we underestimate how disturbing it can be. I was very ill a few years ago and lost a LOT of weight and it was incredibly hard to deal with the way people started treating me differently. People who had previously bullied and insulted me didn't recognise me and treated me like a human being ... I even felt that my family valued me more for what I looked like than what I was. It's so hard to get out of the 'fat person' mindset - I still walk down the street and expect to be insulted, I still avoid social situations like the plague, I have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to hide anymore. Also, I developed a mild ED because I was so terrified of putting on weight. I'm dealing with that, but it takes time. My advice to you is to get help - and good luck :smile:
Reply 18
Hi there!

I must admit your story impressed me because, despite what you think or say, your words are powerful, and so is your ambition.

You are one of those few people who have the courage to defeat great amounts of weight; the vast majority of women who see themselves as fat, struggle even with losing 5-10 pounds, never mind 120. A huge loss of weight does however has its effects and in some cases this problem can only be solved through surgery.

This leads me to your fear of surgery, which is understandable in the circumstances that you had to go through the trauma of losing someone close due to having surgery. Unfortunately cancer is still one of the illnesses everyone fears, because of the high rate of mortality associated with it. Luckily for you, reconstructive/plastic surgery involves a very small risk, probably less than having a tooth extraction!

You have already been through the hard part by yourself, and while you could have chosen the easy option, like liposuction, you lost all this weight on your own. I think it's now time that you let the doctors help you get rid of the surplus of skin you have, in order to give you the body shape you should have at this weight. As long as this operation wouldn't put any financial strains on your family, you should go for it! Being afraid of having a surgery is normal, I've been through hell last year when I was in the hospital, but in the end I think my family worried more than me. It wasn't all that bad, and now I'm healthy and happy as ever!

If surgery is really a big NO for you, you could at least do a bit of research on the Internet to see what risks are related to this type of intervention, and how/if they can affect you.

I wish you good luck, and would like to make you aware of the respect and appreciation I have for you, after reading your thoughts.

Friendly Regards,
Bea.
Reply 19
Awww hunny! Have a hug! You've achieved a lot and should be proud of all the weight you've lost. It must be really hard when some ignorant people make comments about you, but that's exactly what they are - just some random ignorant people you shouldn't have to car about at all! Your weight now sounds fine to me and although I can totally understand being upset about your skin, maybe the best is to leave it for now and decide later. You can still go out and enjoy life if you cover up the skin with clothes so that you don't feel self conscious about it, hun. Set yourself some goals socially! Maybe you could get a job or join some clubs or societies and meet some new people, who won't be horrible to you. It might take a long time since you'll be feeling very insecure and vulnerable, but I'm sure there are some nice people out there who are just waiting to be friends with you. Real friends won't judge you by your appearance, you know. It's your inner values that count - how fun you are to be around and talk to and how caring you are. Just remember that. Stand in front of the mirror and smile. Then go out there and smile the whole time, even if you keep having to remind yourself to do it. A smile always makes the people around you feel good and they will like you for it.
You are just at the point where you can pick up your life again! It will be really hard, but you've been through so much already, I'm sure you can get over the little hurdles in life still ahead of you!
Later in life you will still have the option of surgery (check with your doctor, but I would assume so), so you don't need to make that decision right now while you are feelings so vulnerable. What ever you chose - you always have options, although it can be hard to see them at times.
*hug*
xxx