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    And why?
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    Love has no relation to being or not being deserved.
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    all humans are love at their core and therefore need no love from outside sources
    we complete ourselves
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    We all pertain to the same existence and same start to that existence. Love has been associated with many things, but the absence of it has primarily attributed to starting or continuing hateful, violent acts. Even if Love may not be related to what is "deserved" - all should express love to others (or even just respect). All should be able to receive it.
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    I think that all humans came into existence not through their own choice. And, when we came into existence, we were saddled with needs that must be fulfilled in order to maintain our quality of experience, and one of those needs is to be loved. Because we didn't choose to have this need, but someone else gave it to us, it seems right to me to say that we deserve to have it fulfilled.

    By analogy you might say that if your company hurts you, or in some way creates for you a new need in your life that you didn't have before, that they should financially compensate you for it, so that they bear the burden and not you, because it was their doing and not yours.

    These things being said, you can't force people to love each other, unlike a court can order a company to pay up.
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    (Original post by fairytalecolours)
    all humans are love at their core and therefore need no love from outside sources
    we complete ourselves
    how?
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    (Original post by parrot16)
    And why?
    yes
    because love conquers all.
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    (Original post by da_nolo)
    how?
    because let's look at physical reality
    we're unable to transmit 'feelings of love' to others
    when we experience love, in all cases we are creating that experience inside ourselves on our own
    the outside world can act as stimuli to illicit feelings of love within us but those energy experiences of love cannot leave our bodies
    therefore we're able to choose to experience love inside us at any given moment
    we can share that love with others physically through physical touch or communication but we cannot transmit our inner 'love feeling' experiences into another's body

    "They can't say, 'Here it is!' or 'There it is!' You see, the kingdom of God is within you." - the bible
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    No. Not all humans deserve love.

    I guess, in a platonic way, sure...it's an important building block of humanity, but love, in the sense of the gooey glut of feelings for someone in...a different way...has to be earned.
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    (Original post by fairytalecolours)
    because let's look at physical reality
    we're unable to transmit 'feelings of love' to others
    How would "love" be identified as a physical reality when majority of explanations and descriptions transcend physical properties?

    when we experience love, in all cases we are creating that experience inside ourselves on our own
    the outside world can act as stimuli to illicit feelings of love within us but those energy experiences of love cannot leave our bodies
    Is love expressed?

    therefore we're able to choose to experience love inside us at any given moment
    we can share that love with others physically through physical touch or communication but we cannot transmit our inner 'love feeling' experiences into another's body

    "They can't say, 'Here it is!' or 'There it is!' You see, the kingdom of God is within you." - the bible
    I'd say that sharing in love is more than physical. I don't do anything but my friends know I love them. I don't touch them other than hugs and I don't say it.
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    (Original post by miser)
    I think that all humans came into existence not through their own choice. And, when we came into existence, we were saddled with needs that must be fulfilled in order to maintain our quality of experience, and one of those needs is to be loved. Because we didn't choose to have this need, but someone else gave it to us, it seems right to me to say that we deserve to have it fulfilled.

    By analogy you might say that if your company hurts you, or in some way creates for you a new need in your life that you didn't have before, that they should financially compensate you for it, so that they bear the burden and not you, because it was their doing and not yours.

    These things being said, you can't force people to love each other, unlike a court can order a company to pay up.
    You're talking about emotions as if they are behaviors/things (as in, like a bed/chair etc.). I don't see how you can compare financial benefit to emotions.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    You're talking about emotions as if they are behaviors/things (as in, like a bed/chair etc.). I don't see how you can compare financial benefit to emotions.
    In what way is an emotional requirement comprehensively distinct from a medical or financial requirement? Ultimately, the reason all these things matter is that they impinge on a person's quality of experience.
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    (Original post by miser)
    In what way is an emotional requirement comprehensively distinct from a medical or financial requirement? Ultimately, the reason all these things matter is that they impinge on a person's quality of experience.
    No-one is obliged to feel specific emotions towards anyone else. It cannot be written into a contract for example.

    You can apply logic and change your emotions to be more logical, but you can't simply choose to love someone or not.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    No-one is obliged to feel specific emotions towards anyone else. It cannot be written into a contract for example.

    You can apply logic and change your emotions to be more logical, but you can't simply choose to love someone or not.
    That's true. However, it's not the same to say, "a person deserves happiness," as it is to say, "this person or that person is obliged to ensure someone's happiness."

    In my original post I said, "you can't force people to love each other, unlike a court can order a company to pay up." Deserving a thing is not the same as requiring someone to give it to you.
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    (Original post by miser)
    That's true. However, it's not the same to say, "a person deserves happiness," as it is to say, "this person or that person is obliged to ensure someone's happiness."

    In my original post I said, "you can't force people to love each other, unlike a court can order a company to pay up." Deserving a thing is not the same as requiring someone to give it to you.
    I contest that that opens 'deserve' up to how other people feel about the subject.
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    (Original post by parrot16)
    And why?
    The world owes you nothing.


    No one deserves anything whatsoever, good or bad.
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    (Original post by miser)
    That's true. However, it's not the same to say, "a person deserves happiness," as it is to say, "this person or that person is obliged to ensure someone's happiness."

    In my original post I said, "you can't force people to love each other, unlike a court can order a company to pay up." Deserving a thing is not the same as requiring someone to give it to you.
    Someone liked my post just now and I think I can articulate myself a bit better.

    How is it any different from asking: "Does my phone deserve to be black?"/"Does my phone deserve to be perceived as black?" (arguably different, arguably one in the same as questions).
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    Love has no relation to being or not being deserved.
    Right. Love has no condition. In my view, its the highest sympathy for people. Such a sympathy is a strong feeling and feelings are snap-shots in general.
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    Ask Louis Armstrong, he can't give you anything but love.
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    (Original post by Kallisto)
    Right. Love has no condition. In my view, its the highest sympathy for people. Such a sympathy is a strong feeling and feelings are snap-shots in general.
    To confirm, are you saying 'Right' as in 'correct' or are you saying 'Right-this is why you're wrong" in a kind of "Right then, where do we start?" sort of a way?

    I don't agree that love is unconditional, otherwise we'd not be able to stop loving people.
 
 
 
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