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Why are so many people's political views so bloody self centered and inconsistent? watch

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    The rampancy of this is incredible.

    I was looking at the live feed about the student protests on twitter, to gauge the reaction from people about what they thought.

    One comment caught my eye and the woman who posted it essentially said that the universities were providing an optional service and students were free to take it or leave it yadda yadda yadda. I clicked on her profile to get a better sense of her political views... of course she was a tory. I then noticed she mentions her husband is a cab driver, so I search her name along with "uber" and sure enough there are endless posts about how bad uber is and why the government should interfere in securing her husband's stranglehold on London's taxiing services. Not for "the market" now is she? Unbelievable.

    For balance I'll mention I've also seen some chavs from my secondary school days moan about benefit scroungers and then moaning about some form of benefits being taken away from them not soon after.
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    The number of Labour supporters I know who look down on the working class tho
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    I too usually agree with whichever party whose policies benefit me.
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    My political views are nonexistent. I just complain about them all...
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    The contradictions in lefty ideology are so blatant. Its hilarious.

    "Gender is a social construct" but homosexuality is genetic and transsexuals really are born in the "wrong" body.

    According to lefty logic the only thing that is genetically determined is whether you are gay or not. Not the clearly obvious genetic differences between the races and the sexes.
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    (Original post by RiotGirll)
    The number of Labour supporters I know who look down on the working class tho
    Not surprising considering they've been brainswashed by the media into thinking everyone who is working class is "lazy".
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    (Original post by Bupdeeboowah)
    I too usually agree with whichever party whose policies benefit me.
    The self centered part doesn't really surprise me, but it's still a little disappointing.

    The inconsistencies though, my God.
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    People's political views are based entirely on how it would affect them, which is reasonable, because for a lot of people that's all that matters. So long as they're content, other people's struggles don't interest them

    Really, that's the main selling point of all the parties, that YOU'LL be better off with us, {whether you're a millionaire or on benefits} ~ besides the Green Party, I guess
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    Because politics is about power.
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    (Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
    The contradictions in lefty ideology are so blatant. Its hilarious.

    "Gender is a social construct" but homosexuality is genetic and transsexuals really are born in the "wrong" body.

    According to lefty logic the only thing that is genetically determined is whether you are gay or not. Not the clearly obvious genetic differences between the races and the sexes.
    No, gender is a largely social construct, but has biological bases.
    Gender and sexual orientation are distinctly separate yet correlating things.
    I'm sure homosexuality was genetic and epigenetic, as well.
    What's that last part supposed to mean? (In bold.) How does this relate to anything that has been said? How is it relevant?
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Because politics is about power.
    AS politics student confirms this, our first lesson was about how politics is nothing but a power struggle.

    Politics is ALL about power
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    AS politics student confirms this, our first lesson was about how politics is nothing but a power struggle.

    Politics is ALL about power
    Yes but then the question you must ask is "what is power". Did they teach you what power actually is?
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    All political and economical systems are flawed, that is us, humans. We all have desires that differ from one another a murderer is still a human but he can be considered detrimental to us. Perhaps this can be changed.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Yes but then the question you must ask is "what is power". Did they teach you what power actually is?
    The ability to influence/control people essentially, different to authority where you have the right to exercise power.
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    The ability to influence/control people essentially, different to authority where you have the right to exercise power.
    Power is the manipulation of others using your means.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Power is the manipulation of others using your means.
    Woah, can you expand on that? That's a really interesting point to make
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    ...because it's their political views. I have political views that suit me just fine, what's wrong with that?
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    you only found this out now? lol
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    (Original post by TheGuyReturns)
    The rampancy of this is incredible.

    I was looking at the live feed about the student protests on twitter, to gauge the reaction from people about what they thought.

    One comment caught my eye and the woman who posted it essentially said that the universities were providing an optional service and students were free to take it or leave it yadda yadda yadda. I clicked on her profile to get a better sense of her political views... of course she was a tory. I then noticed she mentions her husband is a cab driver, so I search her name along with "uber" and sure enough there are endless posts about how bad uber is and why the government should interfere in securing her husband's stranglehold on London's taxiing services. Not for "the market" now is she? Unbelievable.

    For balance I'll mention I've also seen some chavs from my secondary school days moan about benefit scroungers and then moaning about some form of benefits being taken away from them not soon after.
    everyone's self-centred really, we all act in our own interest. Even if that interest is more enlightened in feeling less guilt by helping those less fortunate.
    I'm a socialist, and socialism aims for each person to have the means to be able to achieve their individual goals. So if socialism were in place and functioning it'd act in my own self-interest but I wouldn't feel the guilt of seeing others around me suffering and knowing I could help. It's still self-interested, but I believe it to be more enlightened.
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    Woah, can you expand on that? That's a really interesting point to make
    Well everything done by a state is manipulation of the population. So through this the state maintains itself. Within life everything people do is manipulation of someone else. Also manipulation doesn't have to be direct and forced, it can be indirect and light, but still have the intended effect. Also manipulation can be good or bad. I call this positive and negative manipulation. In terms of person to person positive manipulation could be telling someone that you like their new hair cut. Where as negative manipulation would be saying you hate it. Both have different outcome based on how you want to manipulate someone else.

    With the state and the people the state could have positive manipulation by lowing taxation or negative manipulation by increase taxation. With nation to nation power this is the same again. You have positive manipulation by say having a free trade agreement, negative by putting on tariffs. Positive manipulation is something which benefits both you and the thing you are trying to manipulate. Negative manipulation is something which benefits you at the expense of the thing you are trying to manipulate.

    Also you have to think of manipulation or power like snapping a stick. You can put both your thumbs at the exact point where you want to snap the stick, however this requires as great deal of effort and after a while you will find it hard to snap other sticks or problems. However you can also put you hands at either end of the stick and bend the stick slowly to snap it. This requires much less effort, however it is much slower and the stick may not snap at the point you wanted. So in the end you can use your power directly, but you will soon lose it. Or you can be indirect and your power is less well felt and you have less control over the outcome and time of your manipulation. Or you can do something in between the two.

    In terms of the state it has four different levers of manipulation. These are economic, military, political and cultural manipulation. In terms of person to person manipulation you have physical, mental, psychological and emotional manipulation. So that is my attempt to explain how I think about power.
 
 
 
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