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AS EU Commission say limiting immigrant benefits will be ruled illegal do you think David Cameron will get significant EU reforms on key areas e.g. controlling immigration, fishing, lower EU budget, farming (CAP) or a UK veto?
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- 05-11-2015 13:00
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- 05-11-2015 13:54
He has no spine or charisma, he has no chance.
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- 05-11-2015 15:49
(Original post by Skip_Snip)
He has no spine or charisma, he has no chance.
I agree about 3 though. Not that anybody else does have a chance. -
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- 05-11-2015 16:34
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For a politician he actually has quite a lot of both 1 & 2. Name one with more...
I agree about 3 though. Not that anybody else does have a chance. -
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- 05-11-2015 16:37
I think it's quite likely he could get significant reforms- as long as he has a concrete proposal.
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- 05-11-2015 17:26
No, but as the media are so far up his arse it will be portrayed to the public as though he's flexed his muscles and shown them who is boss. Hence we shall hail our Etonian masters once more for saving our country, 'umbly doffing our caps with joy to them.
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- 05-11-2015 17:27
(Original post by Davij038)
I think it's quite likely he could get significant reforms- as long as he has a concrete proposal. -
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- 05-11-2015 17:48
(Original post by Ace123)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34720745
AS EU Commission say limiting immigrant benefits will be ruled illegal do you think David Cameron will get significant EU reforms on key areas e.g. controlling immigration, fishing, lower EU budget, farming (CAP) or a UK veto?
Fishing- the tossing dead fish away problem? I doubt, but its a small one he could get if he pushed
lower eu budget- maybe...
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- 05-11-2015 17:49
Unlikely as no one in Brussels believes UK will still be in the EU after 2017 unless of course the referendum doesn't take place.
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- 05-11-2015 17:51
No but then i don't think it will impact the result much since most people are in Don't Know/Don't care camp.
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- 05-11-2015 19:41
(Original post by Skip_Snip)
He has no spine or charisma, he has no chance.
The EU needs the UK quite a lot and looking at what Cameron seems to be asking for, there's nothing too outlandish.
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- 05-11-2015 19:47
The problem Cameron faces here is that all of the Eurosceptics' traditional bugbears are either
- already legislated against
- completely made up
- have zero actual effect in the real world
Like I saw Newsnight the other night and the one guy said the government had been asked to submit evidence that benefit tourism was a problem to support their demand. Of course they were unable to find any. It must be so confusing to proper countries like Germany that we make policy decisions on the basis of idiotic fantasy opinions held by the public rather than evidence. -
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- 05-11-2015 20:36
What a stupid key demand.
The proportion of EU tax payers claiming tax credits is lower than average so I can't imagine, it will achieve anything significant.Last edited by DorianGrayism; 05-11-2015 at 20:47. -
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- 05-11-2015 20:39
I hope not... Don't want him to achieve anything #Piggate
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- 05-11-2015 20:55
(Original post by balanced)
controlling immigration-I think this was already ruled out. We can't change it.
Fishing- the tossing dead fish away problem? I doubt, but its a small one he could get if he pushed
lower eu budget- maybe...
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- 05-11-2015 20:58
(Original post by MatureStudent36)
I think he has some chance of some movement.
The EU needs the UK quite a lot and looking at what Cameron seems to be asking for, there's nothing too outlandish.
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- 05-11-2015 22:35
(Original post by Ace123)
AS EU Commission say limiting immigrant benefits will be ruled illegal do you think David Cameron will get significant EU reforms on key areas e.g. controlling immigration, fishing, lower EU budget, farming (CAP) or a UK veto?
Significance is of course subjective. I suspect there will be a number of real reforms, quite a few of which I suspect I might agree with. There will be a few forrays into the constitutional structure - like and end to the principle of 'ever closer union' - but ultimately the EU's main structure will remain - and rightly so. -
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- 05-11-2015 22:37
(Original post by scrotgrot)
The problem Cameron faces here is that all of the Eurosceptics' traditional bugbears are either
- already legislated against
- completely made up
- have zero actual effect in the real world -
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- 07-11-2015 16:58
Cameron will achieve nothing. He has refused to say what he will ask for because he knows if he asks for anything meaningful it will get rejected. So he will come back in a few months time with some trivial concession and claim that is what he wanted all along, when what the public acually wanted all along was border controls, less money spent on it, the ability for the UK to govern itself, etc etc.
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- 08-11-2015 20:12
(Original post by Ace123)
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AS EU Commission say limiting immigrant benefits will be ruled illegal do you think David Cameron will get significant EU reforms on key areas e.g. controlling immigration, fishing, lower EU budget, farming (CAP) or a UK veto?
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