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    M355 - Motion on Britons stranded in Egypt, TSR UKIPThe discovery by British intelligence services that a bomb plot was planned for flights leaving Sharm el-Sheikh, we believe the British government must act quickly to remove Britons form the dangers faced in the city.

    This house call on the government to use military planes and military personnel to evacuate Britons from the city with, or without the agreement of Egyptian authorities. The cost of the evacuation will be paid for by the commercial airlines on a per passenger basis who have passengers stranded in the city.

    This motion require British security personnel to be flown out to Sharm el-Sheikh on the empty military transport planes to organise the evacuation of Britons and their luggage. The local authorities cannot be trusted, the Egyptian government is using pathetic retaliation measures by blocking commercial evacuation flights form taking place, and the airport is not a secure environment for evacuation flights to depart form without considerable support from UK security service; all of this puts the lives of Britons in danger.
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    Nay. We shouldn't attack the soveriegnty of the Egyptians this way, especially as we don't know their reasoning, and it's unreasonable to bill the airlines who'll already be suffering losses for a problem that is no fault of their own.
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    I think it diplomatically unwise to pass a motion using such pejorative language to refer to the actions of another government with whom we would like to cooperate if at all possible. Sort that out and I'll support it.
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    Nay. Something needs to be done but this isn't it.

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    Nay, there is absolutely no need for it and isn't worth the risk of a diplomatic incident.

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    Aye, however as said above it is unfair to bill the airlines and we cannot be hostile towards the Egyptian government and so it does need to be reworded.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Nay. We shouldn't attack the soveriegnty of the Egyptians this way, especially as we don't know their reasoning, and it's unreasonable to bill the airlines who'll already be suffering losses for a problem that is no fault of their own.
    Their reasoning is that it's embarrassing for it to happen to them, and will damage tourism.

    And the airlines aren't suffering, as we are saving them from having to send their own planes. We can't just let them pocket the air fares if they aren't fulfilling their obligation of a return flight.
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    Nay. The situation is not serious enough to justify violating another country's sovereignty, nor is it wise to level accusations against the Egyptian Government within the motion.
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    (Original post by Wellzi)
    Their reasoning is that it's embarrassing for it to happen to them, and will damage tourism.

    And the airlines aren't suffering, as we are saving them from having to send their own planes. We can't just let them pocket the air fares if they aren't fulfilling their obligation of a return flight.
    And the taxpayer should pick up the bill, why?

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    Not fair to blame the airline companies, nor is it appropriate to ignore the Egyptians own sovereignty. Also, where do they fly to? One plane to London or?

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    Nay for all the reasons mentioned above.
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    nay
    because they have started to bring them back, and within a few days the brits will be out of there. (and they are relatively safe in the meantime)
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    Nay , not justified and if you have actually been listening to the news you will know what a operation to bring them back has already started
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    Nay, there's no reason for it.

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    Nay.

    The flights home have begun, and given how much our armed forces have been or will be decimated by the Tories so that Trident replacement can be funded, there may not be many planes available.
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    Nay to going to war with Egypt. All our people will be back beefy the time this bill passes so it's also pointless
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    Nay for all of the above mentioned reasons pretty much
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    Nay. The situation is not serious enough to justify violating another country's sovereignty, nor is it wise to level accusations against the Egyptian Government within the motion.
    Hear hear. Nay.
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    I would prefer the Egyptians to be informed/asked to co-operate first, but in principle aye.

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