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    Don't know, but we will probably nazi it coming.
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    (Original post by VV Cephei A)
    Don't know, but we will probably nazi it coming.
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    An increase in particular crime, increase in housing prices and decrease in availability of public services.
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    There'll be more Syrians living in Europe, I know that much.
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    Hmm...

    Sharia law will be imposed all throughout Europe. The native inhabitants will probably either convert to Islam or flee to former colonies. For instance, the British might go to Canada, and they might let the French come to Quebec. The Spanish might go to a country like Mexico or Argentina. The rest of those who don't convert will just have to beg for asylum in any country that will take them or survive in ethnic ghettos full of White people paying the Jizya, if they're not killed outright.

    Spain will be named Andalus, and all European countries and cities will be given new Arabic names that are somehow symbolic of their role in the new Arabic world. Some of them may just be corruptions of the old name that are easier for the conquerors to say.

    Now, as far as the old churches, I think the ones outside the White ghettos will either be converted into Mosques or destroyed, like the Ottomans did with the Hagia Sophia when they turned Constantinople into Istanbul. All the old castles and landmarks, and all the old Roman ruins will likely be turned into makeshift fortresses, defaced, or destroyed as a symbolic gesture. Most universities will be burnt to the ground (or turned into Islamic schools), as well as all books that encourage patriotism or are critical of Islam.

    I think the languages of Europe would turn into pidgins of the local languages that are strongly influenced by those of the conquerors, perhaps Arabic, Persian, and Urdu.

    For the next 500-1000 years or so, life continues on in this way, with the ghettos being squeezed out of existence by conversions to Islam and desperate journeys to other lands. The new Caliphate becomes a world power with nuclear weapons, although their prosperity weakens their religious resolve just enough that they don't use them for fear of retaliation. Over several centuries, Islam finally begins to lose its teeth and becomes more cultural than religious. When you have money, land, and power, you start to think more about this life than the next.

    The idea of using the Quran as a basis for a social welfare system comes into play and Islamic principles begin to be seen as a tool of compassion rather than of violence as they become comfortable with peace. Perhaps they finally issue an apology to the Europeans for displacing them and taking their land, but it largely doesn't appease them. At this point, perhaps Europeans are allowed to come back without fear and study what's left of their homelands/history. Islamic scholarship eventually takes off, and it's rationalised in the context of the Islamic Golden Age traditions and the height of the Ottoman Empire, and Islam itself finally starts making progress. Sort of like a Renaissance.

    That was as far as I could imagine. I don't know what happens after that, but I do believe any Islamic civilisation that survived for a long time would eventually move in a more moderate direction if it were stable and prosperous.
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    Muslims move in, fight and persecute all non-Muslims until it's only Muslims left, then promptly turn on each other for not being Muslim enough. Back to tribalism for Europe.
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    An increase in particular crime, increase in housing prices and decrease in availability of public services.

    (Original post by RodgertheRabbit)
    Muslims move in, fight and persecute all non-Muslims until it's only Muslims left, then promptly turn on each other for not being Muslim enough. Back to tribalism for Europe.


    (Original post by jeremy1988)
    Hmm...Sharia law will be imposed all throughout Europe. The native inhabitants will probably either convert to Islam or flee to former colonies. For instance, the British might go to Canada, and they might let the French come to Quebec. The Spanish might go to a country like Mexico or Argentina. The rest of those who don't convert will just have to beg for asylum in any country that will take them or survive in ethnic ghettos full of White people paying the Jizya, if they're not killed outright.Spain will be named Andalus, and all European countries and cities will be given new Arabic names that are somehow symbolic of their role in the new Arabic world. Some of them may just be corruptions of the old name that are easier for the conquerors to say.Now, as far as the old churches, I think the ones outside the White ghettos will either be converted into Mosques or destroyed, like the Ottomans did with the Hagia Sophia when they turned Constantinople into Istanbul. All the old castles and landmarks, and all the old Roman ruins will likely be turned into makeshift fortresses, defaced, or destroyed as a symbolic gesture. Most universities will be burnt to the ground (or turned into Islamic schools), as well as all books that encourage patriotism or are critical of Islam.I think the languages of Europe would turn into pidgins of the local languages that are strongly influenced by those of the conquerors, perhaps Arabic, Persian, and Urdu.For the next 500-1000 years or so, life continues on in this way, with the ghettos being squeezed out of existence by conversions to Islam and desperate journeys to other lands. The new Caliphate becomes a world power with nuclear weapons, although their prosperity weakens their religious resolve just enough that they don't use them for fear of retaliation. Over several centuries, Islam finally begins to lose its teeth and becomes more cultural than religious. When you have money, land, and power, you start to think more about this life than the next.The idea of using the Quran as a basis for a social welfare system comes into play and Islamic principles begin to be seen as a tool of compassion rather than of violence as they become comfortable with peace. Perhaps they finally issue an apology to the Europeans for displacing them and taking their land, but it largely doesn't appease them. At this point, perhaps Europeans are allowed to come back without fear and study what's left of their homelands/history. Islamic scholarship eventually takes off, and it's rationalised in the context of the Islamic Golden Age traditions and the height of the Ottoman Empire, and Islam itself finally starts making progress. Sort of like a Renaissance.That was as far as I could imagine. I don't know what happens after that, but I do believe any Islamic civilisation that survived for a long time would eventually move in a more moderate direction if it were stable and prosperous.


    Though I see some truth in your prophecy, I get the feeling you are symbolizing hoards of refugees and migrants as kings and warriors.
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    The influx of migrants will increase crime, rape crime in particular, extremism, terror attacks, poverty, drive down wages, spike in migrant babies as these people breed like rabbits and we may see the official first instatement of sharia law
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
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    Don't know what the outcome will be but the objective of the influx is to get rid of all those bad white countries.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
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    Here is a quote from an article about the last time there was a huge refugee influx:

    "In 1903-1906 and after 1917 the Jewish population of the Russian Empire, principally in what is now Poland, came under pressure from pogroms and economic factors. This led to a mixed exodus of asylum seekers and economic migrants. (See Spitzer: POGROMS, NETWORKS,AND MIGRATION The Jewish Migration from the Russian Empire to the United States 1881–1914 )

    The media of the time were greatly incensed by this persecution. Eventually the Jewish migrants were offered sanctuary in the USA and also Germany. During WWI the Russians expelled both Protestant Germans and Jews westwards. After the First World War the German Weimar Republic had lax border controls and allowed a fairly large scale migration into and through its territory. (See Brinkmann: Jewish Migration, which contains the understatement: "Quite a few of these people came into the clutches of the Nazi machinery of persecution after 1939 for lack of valid papers." ).

    The pressure to treat the migrants fairly and with openness was intense. Organisations such as the Paris based Alliance Israelite Universelle, the New York HIAS (Hebrew Sheltering and Immigrant Aid Society) or the Berlin Hilfsverein der Deutschen Juden all helped to expedite the flow of migrants out of Russia. Sadly the racists got in on the act. Those who feared any diversity founded the Pan-Europa Movement which agitated for a strange sort of eugenics in which it was held that peace could only be obtained by breeding out the diversity of racial differences in Europe and this was opposed by the National Socialists. The Pan Europeans built the fire and the Nazis lit it."

    The Pan-Europa Movement has been pivotal to the foundation of the EU and counts quite a large percentage of MEPs amongst its members.

    Of course, in the 1920s it was relatively peaceful Jews who were the refugees. Muslims will be far more interesting with the propensity of Muslim communities to radicalise. Why Pan-Europa wants a re-match is quite puzzling...
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    Hard to say without knowing future immigration and other factors but with the current factors at hand. At least a generation of cultural, idelogical battles and tensions. Higher rape and terrorism and a significant increase in intolerance and hostility to minorities

    Continued suppression of wages, continued higher house prices and rents. Continued exploitation of the workforce due to surplus of workers to jobs
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    (Original post by RodgertheRabbit)
    Muslims move in, fight and persecute all non-Muslims until it's only Muslims left, then promptly turn on each other for not being Muslim enough. Back to tribalism for Europe.
    Dont forget muslim on muslim violence to! Existing Regional conflicts are heading to Europe Kurds - Turks for example
 
 
 
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